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SF made over a billion dollars worldwide even without factoring in the Chinese box office figures (which were less than $60 million by the way).
So it's not as "simple as that!".
Logic has failed you, it would seem.
I was going to say just that. Skyfall didn't do that well in the Chinese market at all, and its plot apparently labeling them as "enemies" or "villains" didn't help either.
You are correct, @WillyGalore. Logic has failed @Matt_Helm. Otherwise, a notorious Craig basher wouldn't visit a thread that says "appreciation and news", not "appreciation or news".
Also, I don't care where the money comes from. You reach a wider audience, good for you. It means Bond reaches even more people on Earth now. That's a measure of success too. And Chinese money is as good to me as American money. Dozens of films are released every month that reach the Chinese market too yet hardly make 20 million worldwide. Even for the Chinese, a film has to be good enough.
Aarrrgh!!!
First of all - less than $60 million? With reported tickets prices of about $20 for blockbusters in China this would mean less then 3 million Chinese have gone to see it (and that in a country that is thirsting for just about every western product). Yeah,sure!
Secondly - known Craig basher? As one of the very few defenders of QoS this can hardly be the case. Call me a known Skyfall basher and I stand gladly behind it (like any self respecting and logic loving individual!)
But most importantly - my post was referring to dramaticscenesofQOS "vision" of an aging and dying bond, which is awaited on the other side by Judi Dench (I even shiver when I write this down) and what this would do to the franchise in my opinion. To back this up I told about the conversation I had with this young fellow.
All this bite reflexes of so many of yours against just about everybody, who is offering less than ultimate praise for Mr. Craig are simply ridiculous (and quite a few other things as well)!
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=UK&id=bond23.htm
That's it Mr Helm. You just keep arguing with the facts...
Could you please cite your source? I would be very interested to know how to they come up with this number. Come to think about it I suspect that they (or you) might get EONs revenue in china mixed up with the revenue of the Chinese movie theaters in total. You see the problem is that even if we double up to 6 millions,then still only six thousands of the Chinese population has seen it. Since we Permanently hear how crazy they go for just about everything out of Hollywood this just doesn't add up
I've just provided you with the bloody source!!!
And just in case you're still in any doubt:
http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_boxoffice.php3
Mea culpa. I didn't saw the link and indeed it seems to back you up big way. I stand corrected. Still I find it very hard to believe, that only 0.006 of China got in Line for their first chance to see movie legend James Bond on the big screen ( and which took place in Shanghai as well). I wonder how they can justify prices of 20 Dollars with that result. After all,they should be highly interested to make movie going a mass event. I retreat and try to wrap my mind around it.
I actually doubt these lines made it past the censors. By the way the Chinese have a long and lively history of torturing so I think they probably wouldn't be annoyed by the notion that they might torture their enemies.
The scenes in which Patrice shoots the 2 guards dead in Shanghai were cut along with Bond's reference to the Triads and child prostitution.
I wonder what Bond's infiltration of the skyscraper looks like then. I'm guessing he goes straight from testing out his PPK to jumping on the elevator or something like that? Must look awful.
Skyfall's box office career in China was put almost to a total stop when Chinese's Journey To The West was released two/three weeks later, with that movie ending with the all-time Chinese box office records in the end. And Skyfall was actually released in a bad time of the year for box office overall success (the weeks before Chinese New Year)
Skyfall definitely was a success in China given the circumstances, but there's not as much room there for some foreign movies as one thinks, domestic movies are protected, and China can use economic censorship too by deciding when to release movies (dates are not decided by the studios).
In fact, one year later, Despicable Me 2, who had problems with censorship too like Skyfall did, was released in the same poor spot. And did even less than Skyfall.
To give a one line summary : in the two weeks in which Skyfall had some room to exist at the Chinese box office, it was #1 there.
Now, I know that if you only look at the $ at BoxOfficeMojo, you'll see X-Men already riding to the $100M figure in China and you'll think it obviously prove that Skyfall was meh. But this is not the same spot at all, this is not the same number of screenings, and this is not the same delay between international release dates. Much, much less piracy problems with the simultaneous release date of X-Men DFOP for instance. DFOP will be a hit there, but give it the same circumstances of release in China than Skyfall, and things would be quite different if you only look at the $ line at BoxOfficeMojo. The Chinese audience's taste and its alleged predictability is far from the only factor in such comparisons.
I agree. I think both are worth watching, but The Ice House really is wonderful. Just reading the name of it above made me grin.
And I definitely agree on that. :P I just scroll, scroll, scroll...
Daniel invited by David Cameron. First the Queen, now him. He gets around
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2652549/David-Cameron-plans-Cool-Britannia-bash-Emma-Watsons-list-Gary-Barlow-invited.html
I'm one of "the few". Very interesting. Gordon Brown of course met Sebastian Faulks at the time of Devil May Care:
And, to start it all rolling, Prime Minister Harold Wilson invited Sean Connery to No. 10 shortly after he came to power in October 1964, which was of course many years before the so-called "Cool Britannia".
Indeed! Let the rumours roll...
http://www.deadline.com/2014/06/keanu-reeves-daniel-craig-the-whole-truth-courtney-hunt-new-orleans/#more-744935
I keep thinking we should be getting real news on Bond 24 soon. In some category - any category - I'll take any bit of real news; that would be great.
Nice Daniel is meeting with Mr. Cameron. :)