The DANIEL CRAIG Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited July 2014 Posts: 4,043
    Craig apparently said he had friends in Sweden that spoke with a cut glass British accent and that he didn't want to sound like the Swedish Chef in the Muppets.

    Personally I don't mind it and certainly don't find it as jarring as some. It's certainly not Fincher's best but I prefer it to the Swedish version and it's far from boring.

    Craig's best film to date since being cast as Bond, he really captured Blomvist something his Swedish counterpart didn't, far too knowing and cocky, Daniel really got that feel of a man who had had his confidence knocked perfectly.

    Plus acting alongside Mara's Lisbeth, despite Rapace playing a better Salander she didn't have the chemistry they both had in the Fincher film, pity we won't get the sequels as the first films follow ups were considerably underwhelming but Fincher's take on TGWTDT stands up fine on it's own.
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    I listened to Fincher's commentary and he said Dan didn't put on an accent, because most of the people in Blomkvist's social status are well educated in languages and such and don't have a much of an accent. I don't wholly buy that, since they're all supposed to be speaking swedish. But it doesnt matter to me. It's a good movie that stands on it's own two feet, and doesnt necessarely require a follow-up movie. Even though I'd like to one day see one.
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    ^^ Sounds reasonable to me. They ARE still speaking English, and whatever the accent it remains English. I never think they're supposed to be speaking Swedish since they don't speak Swedish.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I definitely want the sequel. I prefer Mara's Lisbeth and overall I prefer the newer version compared to the Swedish one, including Dan's portrayal. Don't think Fincher will return, and I don't particularly want him to. But I do want the next one made. If you've read the books, you'll know how cinematic it sounds as you read it - it would just be great on film (if done right, of course).
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    I was expecting a much better film from Fincher. Disappointing.

    the accents aren't the primary problem - just something I found weird. I hate it when they don't work out how to manage accents. you need to establish right from the start how it's going to work. Having an Englishman playing a Swede ,but speaking with an English accent, amongst Swedes speaking English with Swedish accents just doesn't work for me, when they're all supposed to be the same nationality. Any way, I just found it not very good.
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    It's a good film, but it's definitely one of Fincher's lesser efforts. For all of the talk that there's been about a sequel, I can't say that I'm all that bothered if there ends up being another film or not. If they make it, I'll probably see it at some point, but if they don't, then that's fine as well.
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    I've got it on DVD,have had it for about 6 months,but still havent got around to watching it...
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Don't see the big deal about Craig's accent. It's a remake of a better movie, why have it exactly the same? Plus, with the dodgy casting Hollywood does all the time in films, particularly based in historical events, I for one am not bothered by Craig using his natural voice. Besides, Connery is the biggest culprit of being cast as someone who isn't Scottish and almost insists on sounding aggressively Scottish.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Don't see the big deal about Craig's accent. It's a remake of a better movie, why have it exactly the same? Plus, with the dodgy casting Hollywood does all the time in films, particularly based in historical events, I for one am not bothered by Craig using his natural voice. Besides, Connery is the biggest culprit of being cast as someone who isn't Scottish and almost insists on sounding aggressively Scottish.

    @doubleoego, I think nobody, not even Connery, beats Arnold in that department. Guys with names like Jack Slater, Harry Tasker, Marshal John Kruger, Sheriff Ray Owens and Julius Benedict usually don't have thick Austrian accents. ;-)
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Don't see the big deal about Craig's accent. It's a remake of a better movie, why have it exactly the same? Plus, with the dodgy casting Hollywood does all the time in films, particularly based in historical events, I for one am not bothered by Craig using his natural voice. Besides, Connery is the biggest culprit of being cast as someone who isn't Scottish and almost insists on sounding aggressively Scottish.

    @doubleoego, I think nobody, not even Connery, beats Arnold in that department. Guys with names like Jack Slater, Harry Tasker, Marshal John Kruger, Sheriff Ray Owens and Julius Benedict usually don't have thick Austrian accents. ;-)

    John Matrix, Ben Richards, Doug Quaid, John Kimble... ;-)
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    Well, actually John Matrix and John Kimble are from Austria. I know, I've been watching a lot of ah-nuld and italion stallion movies quite resently, and I didn't even remember that they were supposed to be austrian. But,yep, they are ;)
  • Shardlake wrote: »
    The problem is Bond, it really limits an actors career and restricts him of what he can do when in the role.
    And even sometimes that's the business who restricts him... Like Sidney Lumet's "The Offence", that was killed by its own company United Artists, because they didn't want the audience to see their goose that layed golden eggs, Sean Connery, playing someone who.. well I won't spoil but this is possibly the most extreme role ever played by a Bond actor I think.

    Also, didn't Brosnan say, once he was free, that his contract with EON prevented him to ever appear in another movie wearing a tuxedo and a bow tie, and that's why in Thomas Crown you see him with a tie, or with a open tuxedo jacket, but never with a bow tie, etc..

    So there may be terms in the contracts we know nothing of about Craig.
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    Also, didn't Brosnan say, once he was free, that his contract with EON prevented him to ever appear in another movie wearing a tuxedo and a bow tie, and that's why in Thomas Crown you see him with a tie, or with a open tuxedo jacket, but never with a bow tie, etc..

    So there may be terms in the contracts we know nothing of about Craig.

    I dont think DC is the type to agree to a term like that in his contract.He is a pretty strong-willed fella .

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    May be he has a term about not being seen in blue trunks. Sure he'd happily agree to that one!
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    Getafix wrote: »
    May be he has a term about not being seen in blue trunks. Sure he'd happily agree to that one!

    I love how in interviews he says things like "that scene was a complete accident". Yeah right :p

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    May be he has a term about not being seen in blue trunks. Sure he'd happily agree to that one!

    I love how in interviews he says things like "that scene was a complete accident". Yeah right :p

    It was also an accident when he actually passed out from being asphyxiated in TGWTDT! :D
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    The problem is Bond, it really limits an actors career and restricts him of what he can do when in the role.
    And even sometimes that's the business who restricts him... Like Sidney Lumet's "The Offence", that was killed by its own company United Artists, because they didn't want the audience to see their goose that layed golden eggs, Sean Connery, playing someone who.. well I won't spoil but this is possibly the most extreme role ever played by a Bond actor I think.

    Also, didn't Brosnan say, once he was free, that his contract with EON prevented him to ever appear in another movie wearing a tuxedo and a bow tie, and that's why in Thomas Crown you see him with a tie, or with a open tuxedo jacket, but never with a bow tie, etc..

    So there may be terms in the contracts we know nothing of about Craig.

    I think The Offence must rank as one Connery's best performances, he's playing character very removed from Bond or anyone he'd played at that point.

    I think we'll see a different and more varied selection from Craig once he's done with Bond as I said before Brosnan has certainly come into himself more since leaving the role. Craig has proved long before being Bond he's an incredibly gifted actor and I hope when the constraints of playing 007 are gone we'll see some really great work from him.

    I don't think he would agree to a contract that limits him but studios are likely to be wary who he is and probably not want to cast him in certain roles that he would more likely be open to were he not Bond.

  • edited July 2014 Posts: 2,015
    barryt007 wrote: »
    I dont think DC is the type to agree to a term like that in his contract.He is a pretty strong-willed fella .

    We're talking about life-changing money here. No more problems for the rest of his life and for his family.

    A little note in the contract like the one Brosnan said he had (if I remember well), is not such a big deal, Craig wasn't playing roles close to the "tuxedo Bond" before that. He could play Bond again for Sony, for Heineken, etc.. and for the Olympics, but I don't think we'll see him "in Bond" (dressed like Skyfall's poster) for another reason. I'm not even sure they would allow him to use "Bond" for charity.

    I would not be surprised to learn that he didn't have the right to wear a tuxedo and a bow tie for the Cherokee event for instance, so he had to be in a less Bondian suit.

    On the other hand, maybe Brosnan had a special contract because well, he was Remington Steele before that, and I think "Remington Steele : the movie" was something written with a big NO in the contract for Bond (even though Brosnan would not have gone for it anyway).
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    May be he has a term about not being seen in blue trunks. Sure he'd happily agree to that one!

    I love how in interviews he says things like "that scene was a complete accident". Yeah right :p

    It was also an accident when he actually passed out from being asphyxiated in TGWTDT! :D

    Wait, WHAT?! :-O Details, please!
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2711446/James-Bond-star-Daniel-Craig-David-Villa-Frank-Lampard-watch-Liverpool-play-Manchester-City-New-York.html DC watching the mighty reds again! Bond and Austin powers join up in new York to watch the beloved Liverpool Football club :)
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    Edit *their
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    Mike Myers has the exact same expression in every photo. Guess he isn't feeling too groovy nowadays.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    So, has he been to the hairdresser lately? The world wants to know.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    What the hell is he wearing around his neck?!
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    He is covering up something. Everything from a love bite to whatever ;)
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    I have never said this but DC is looking aged....
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    I feel there are two kinds of Bond actors now: the tough thug like Connery, Lazenby and Craig, which I think is the right mix for Bond. The rest are just too gentlemanly for me. Maybe Dalton's okay but the rest, just too soft.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2014 Posts: 12,480
    Well, I just discovered this. Probably many of you knew this already, but thought I'd post it here.
    When discussing her work designing clothes for Bond films, Lindy Hemming said:
    "... with Daniel Craig’s trunks from Casino Royale (2006) being a nod to Sean Connery’s pale blue poplin pair worn in Thunderball (1965)."
    But elsewhere on the site it also states in the text describing the Designing007 exhibit, it mentions that we did not see these blue poplin ones in the film:

    At Beach Wear a glass cabinet displays Sunspel’s recreation of Connery’s cotton poplin shorts from Thunderball (which in actual fact were not used in the film at all, but featured in promotional material around that time, or most likely earlier. Connery’s Thunderball shorts were by Jantzen, the ‘diving girl’ logo), Honey Ryder’s (Ursula Andress) original white Dr. No bikini, plus the orange emulation, complete with ‘J’ detail buckle worn by Halle Berry as Jinx in Die Another Day. Daniel Craig’s GrigioPerla Casino Royale shorts are here too, themselves an emulation of Connery’s.

    I didn't know the Casino Royale blue swim trunks was a nod to the ones Sean wore (apparently only promotional stills) re Thunderball.

    And for current thought on Craig's looks, I think he looks great and I hope he looks similar in Bond 24.
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