SPECTRE: Bringing skiing to new levels in Austria (Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik?)

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  • Yes, I agree with all of your thoughts on that, GG.

    I'm getting really a lot more excited these days. More actual news is heading our way like a snowball rolling downhill and getting bigger and bigger. :-bd

    I heard though, that an Austrian village near Italy has been "booked" for about three days to film scenes there. But does anyone know if real pistes have been booked already to film the actual, way more difficult, ski chases? I mean for that you need to film for a much longer period of time. Not to mention a certain huge villa in the Alps where the leading villain actually stays.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited September 2014 Posts: 1,731
    They mention the town/resort of Sölden in the MI6 article - my personal favorite & one of the best places to ski in Austria!

    Let's have a shiny Aston Martin with ski's on the roof, please :>
  • I think that to see the theme of an "ageing Bond" mixed with stunts by him straight from some X-Games or RedBull GoPro videos would be a bit weird. Even as soon as CR, it was made clear Bond would not do parkour, but rather chase one in almost the "good old" Bob Simmons way :)

    Also, I'm afraid CG face replacement with skiing is still problematic. Ski-doo, less so.
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    00:47 to 1:07 is a simply staggering sequence. It would be epic to see these guys in a Bond film.

    This is......is....stunning @TheWizardOfIce ! I mean, this actually LOOKS like James Bond footage! By jolly, you could set new standards in Bond 24 with this kind of parachute/ski chase. And then the real-life camera in it. Imagine you see this on IMAX with Thomas Newman's rendition of the James Bond theme!

    I just hopeeee Barbara Brocolli and Michael G. Wilson see this. This is stunning footage!

    Wouldn't Cubby have jumped on these guys and made sure we saw this first in a Bond movie. Stunning.

    Although having said that I'm almost hoping that any ski chase is a bit old-school. Just straight down line incredible skiing through stunning landscapes.
  • Pajan005 wrote: »
    You think the Austria scenes will be filmed early on? Since they are filming during the winter.

    I heard that they will not only film in one particular part of Austria (like Bregenz in QOS).

    Both giant ski slopes will be used for filming (in the more touristic wintersports city of Sölden, which has like 140 km of ski slopes) as well as a three day-shooting schedule by the production team inside a small, cosy town, located at 5,000 ft, and that is usually full of snow in winter (the Austrian village of Obertilliach)

    I reckon Sölden will be used extensively for action sequences and ski sequences. While Obertilliach will be used for a few days to shoot the actual cosiness of a village. Anyway, I can't believe now that "Bond 24" will only have a PTS in the snow and nothing more. It'll be a true "winter Bond film" I think ;-).

    Sölden:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sölden
    Sölden is also a popular ski resort and regularly hosts the first World Cup races of the season; a giant slalom for both men and women is usually scheduled for late October on the Rettenbach glacier. The races in October 2011 started at 3,040 m (9,974 ft) and finished at 2,670 m (8,760 ft). Elevation: 1,350 m (4,429 ft) (Sölden village) - 3,250 m (10,663 ft). Lifts: 36. Terrain: 146 km (91 mi) total - (62 km red, 51 km blue, 27 km black, 6 km Skiroute).
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    Obertilliach:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obertilliach
    Obertilliach, a popular Nordic paradise, also has a well-earned reputation as a great venue for beginner skiers and families. Wide, rolling trails are ideal for those just getting their snow legs, and none of its runs are rated expert. Located at Kartitsch Saddle in Upper Lesach Valley, Golzentipp is a great mountain for winter sports enthusiasts.
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    Those rooftops look like they need to be skied down!
  • Getafix wrote: »
    Those rooftops look like they need to be skied down!

    hehe, let's see. Have you actually ever been to Sölden? Magnificent ski slopes! I've been there as a kid, and I can understand why EON would love to film there (and in Obertilliach).
  • Campbell2Campbell2 Epsilon Rho Rho house, Bending State University
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    Kick-*ss skiing action is overdue, yeah! Would love to see a tough chase with Bond hunted by a bunch of killers. Just hope it's not in the end such a bland affair as what we got with TWINE, that wasn't worth the trouble IMO.
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    The TWINE scenes were dreadful. Sad to think they came from the same production company that gave us OHMSS all those years ago. Or even TWSLM or FYEO.
  • Getafix wrote: »
    The TWINE scenes were dreadful. Sad to think they came from the same production company that gave us OHMSS all those years ago. Or even TWSLM or FYEO.

    Skiing in Bond films. My TOP 6:

    01) OHMSS
    04) FYEO
    04) TSWLM
    06) TWINE
    06) TLD
    06) AVTAK

    :-p

    Nah, but serious. I truly believe Babs & Michael can create another "action benchmark" again....when they take into account some of our ideas in this topic.
  • edited September 2014 Posts: 11,425
    The ingredients are all here. Cut and paste a random selection of postings from these threads, stick them together to create a plot, and you are almost guaranteed a critical and commercial blockbuster... ;)
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Put a sequence similar to that of OHMSS and FYEO and that's the ski action I would envisage.
    But I'd also like possibly a cable car fight or some dangerous situation involving a cable car. (Nothing like in MR). Something that we haven't had in a Bond film for a while.
  • Obertilliach to host aircraft crash sequence, apparently Sölden also been fixed as filming location: http://t.co/VqS0iVKbpG

    Wow!! Amazing news! So Sölden is confirmed also! The Rettenbachferner glacier near Sölden is one of the most popular black piste resorts in Austria!! Apparently, it was one of the candidate resorts to host the alpine skiing events if Salzburg would have hosted the 2014 Winter Olympics. Currently, Rettenbachferner glacier is used for many World Cup and World Championship Alpine Skiing events. Just have a look at the Wiki-page:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rettenbach_glacier

    The Rettenbachferner glacier in summer:
    Oetztaler_Rettenbachferner.jpg
    The Rettenbachferner glacier in winter:
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    The Rettenbachferner Glacier is located in between two of the highest mountains in Austria, the "Äußere Schwarze Schneid" (3,255 m's) and the "Karleskogel" (3,106 m's). And the glacier eventually flows into the alpine city of Sölden.

    Wun-der-ful news :-). It seems we're getting a true classical "winter Bond film", with perhaps some innovative ski chases, influenced by Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik
  • Campbell2Campbell2 Epsilon Rho Rho house, Bending State University
    edited September 2014 Posts: 299
    Great news, just what I hoped for! Now if only the winter section is a significant part of the film and not merely an excuse for an action sequence.
  • And that we don't know yet. I kinda hope it will be a significant part of the film.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Given the brevity of the shoot in Obertillach I dont think we're going to be talking OHMSS length of Alpine scenes. I'd settle for similar to Cortina which featured for a solid half an hour of the film.

    The main thing is that the the action sequence is up to scratch with no CGI and is woven organically into the narrative. The TWINE was so randomly tacked on and then when the action did come it was such a damp squib.
  • And that we don't know yet. I kinda hope it will be a significant part of the film.
    Given the brevity of the shoot in Obertillach I dont think we're going to be talking OHMSS length of Alpine scenes. I'd settle for similar to Cortina which featured for a solid half an hour of the film.

    The main thing is that the the action sequence is up to scratch with no CGI and is woven organically into the narrative. The TWINE was so randomly tacked on and then when the action did come it was such a damp squib.

    But what Sölden, for which the Rettenbachferner glacier will be used?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited September 2014 Posts: 9,117
    And that we don't know yet. I kinda hope it will be a significant part of the film.
    Given the brevity of the shoot in Obertillach I dont think we're going to be talking OHMSS length of Alpine scenes. I'd settle for similar to Cortina which featured for a solid half an hour of the film.

    The main thing is that the the action sequence is up to scratch with no CGI and is woven organically into the narrative. The TWINE was so randomly tacked on and then when the action did come it was such a damp squib.

    But what Sölden, for which the Rettenbachferner glacier will be used?

    Yes but thats just a ski slope that will be used for the action scenes. But you cant have 40 minutes of the film on the side of a mountain. Unless I suppose theres some sort of Piz Gloria building which is filmed at Pinewood. But then the whole things getting a bit too derivative of OHMSS isnt it?
  • edited September 2014 Posts: 11,119
    And that we don't know yet. I kinda hope it will be a significant part of the film.
    Given the brevity of the shoot in Obertillach I dont think we're going to be talking OHMSS length of Alpine scenes. I'd settle for similar to Cortina which featured for a solid half an hour of the film.

    The main thing is that the the action sequence is up to scratch with no CGI and is woven organically into the narrative. The TWINE was so randomly tacked on and then when the action did come it was such a damp squib.

    But what Sölden, for which the Rettenbachferner glacier will be used?

    Yes but thats just a ski slope that will be used for the action scenes. But you cant have 40 minutes of the film on the side of a mountain. Unless I suppose theres some sort of Piz Gloria building which is filmed at Pinewood. But then the whole things getting a bit too derivative of OHMSS isnt it?

    @TheWizardOfIce: Have you seen the first on-set-picture? The production design crew is constructing, what seems to be, a big house in Obertilliach. It could become a big mountain villa/log cabin. So, already sets that can actually be created at the Pinewood lot, are build on location in Austria. That must tell you something.
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    Also several hotels have been rent out for cast & crew in Tirol, Austria, including the Dolomitengolf Resort in East-Tirol and the Grand Hotel Lienz. Now, usually EON is not booking this stuff for just the cast. You can use fully-loaded trailers for that. I remember back in 2005 EON booked the wunderful Grand Hotel Pupp in Karlovy Vary (which later turned out to be the Hotel Splendide), and that wasn't just for the cast as we know now.

    So let's have a look at the hotels that are booked by EON Productions, according to http://www.kleinezeitung.at/nachrichten/leute/kaernten/3751118/bond-film-flugzeug-nimmt-kurs-osttirol.story:

    Grandhotel Lienz, Lienz, East-Tirol, Austria (5 stars):
    http://www.grandhotel-lienz.com/de/das-grandhotel
    Well guys, this could very well be a hotel that will be used in the storyline/plot of Bond 24. Such a wunderful beautiful hotel will not just be used for crew. Just have a look at the pictures. It has got the "grandeur" and elegance of previous Bond hotels, like Splendide ("Casino Royale") and Hotel Palacio ("On Her Majesty's Secret Service"). And looking at the interior design it has got the warmth of a true alpine hotel.
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    Dolomitengolf Resort, Lavant, East-Tirol, Austria (4 stars "plus"):
    http://www.hotel-dolomitengolf.com/de/golfplatz-oesterreich
    The hotel has got a 27-hole golf course, which in summer is used extensively by the more.......upper class tourists. Actually, the golf course is the biggest in Tirol. Could it be that Bond will be playing golf also :-)?
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    @TheWizardOfIce? So besides Obertilliach (where construction of a big house takes place, perhaps villain's lair), Sölden (Rettenbachferner glacier, for skiing), you can also add Lienz (Grandhotel Lienz) and Lavant (most likely used for crew, but it has a wunderful 27-hole golf course) to the list of Austrian locations.

    Now I also have a question for @JamesPage. Do you pursue some research journalism on MI6-HQ as well? Isn't it possible to....give a sweet call to Grandhotel Lienz and Dolomitengolf Resort....just to confirm IF and WHEN these hotels are booked by a "big film crew"? Apparently http://www.kleinezeitung.at knows a bit more than we do.....

  • Campbell2Campbell2 Epsilon Rho Rho house, Bending State University
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    If we ended up with a solid 30 minutes of alpine scenery in FYEO STYLE I'd already be quite happy. Give us some atmosphere, a sense of being there. In SF they did fine with Scotland but that Hashima Island was underused. They should have had the Skyfall-manor part in the middle and then end it with Bond chasing Silva to Hashima and make better use of the location.
  • RC7RC7
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    Campbell2 wrote: »
    If we ended up with a solid 30 minutes of alpine scenery in FYEO STYLE I'd already be quite happy. Give us some atmosphere, a sense of being there. In SF they did fine with Scotland but that Hashima Island was underused. They should have had the Skyfall-manor part in the middle and then end it with Bond chasing Silva to Hashima and make better use of the location.

    They never shot at Hashima, it was built on the backlot. Seems like we'll definitely be getting some decent location photography this time, particularly in Austria.
  • Campbell2Campbell2 Epsilon Rho Rho house, Bending State University
    Posts: 299
    RC7 wrote: »
    Campbell2 wrote: »
    If we ended up with a solid 30 minutes of alpine scenery in FYEO STYLE I'd already be quite happy. Give us some atmosphere, a sense of being there. In SF they did fine with Scotland but that Hashima Island was underused. They should have had the Skyfall-manor part in the middle and then end it with Bond chasing Silva to Hashima and make better use of the location.

    They never shot at Hashima, it was built on the backlot. Seems like we'll definitely be getting some decent location photography this time, particularly in Austria.

    Should have guessed that, I take it it was too expensive to use the location itself.
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    That hotel is eye popping! :-O Some amazing places out there!
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited September 2014 Posts: 1,731
    Wun-der-ful news :-). It seems we're getting a true classical "winter Bond film", with perhaps some innovative ski chases, influenced by Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik

    Super - thanks for the info & great scenery, Gustav!

    Where are you from? I've also been to Sölden and can only agree that it's perfect!
  • AceHole wrote: »
    Wun-der-ful news :-). It seems we're getting a true classical "winter Bond film", with perhaps some innovative ski chases, influenced by Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik

    Super - thanks for the info & great scenery, Gustav!

    Where are you from? I've also been to Sölden and can only agree that it's perfect!

    I am Dutch, from the Northeastern part of The Netherlands, but I live & work in Barcelona, Spain ;-). I like skiing, in the past mainly in Austria, but lately also in the Catalan Pyrenees.

    Where are you from?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    AceHole wrote: »
    Wun-der-ful news :-). It seems we're getting a true classical "winter Bond film", with perhaps some innovative ski chases, influenced by Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik

    Super - thanks for the info & great scenery, Gustav!

    Where are you from? I've also been to Sölden and can only agree that it's perfect!

    I am Dutch, from the Northeastern part of The Netherlands, but I live & work in Barcelona, Spain ;-). I like skiing, in the past mainly in Austria, but lately also in the Catalan Pyrenees.

    Where are you from?


    Nou - dan hebben we all een aantal dingen gemeen!
    Ben zelf half Engels / half Oostenrijks maar heb lang in NL gewoond (Hengelo, Overijssel) en skiën is ook een grote passie van me. Ben met een Nederlandstalige getrouwd, dus kan het nog wel aardig...

    Nog geen ervaring met wintersport de Pyrineën - is het de moeite?
  • Posts: 11,119
    AceHole wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Wun-der-ful news :-). It seems we're getting a true classical "winter Bond film", with perhaps some innovative ski chases, influenced by Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik

    Super - thanks for the info & great scenery, Gustav!

    Where are you from? I've also been to Sölden and can only agree that it's perfect!

    I am Dutch, from the Northeastern part of The Netherlands, but I live & work in Barcelona, Spain ;-). I like skiing, in the past mainly in Austria, but lately also in the Catalan Pyrenees.

    Where are you from?


    Nou - dan hebben we all een aantal dingen gemeen!
    Ben zelf half Engels / half Oostenrijks maar heb lang in NL gewoond (Hengelo, Overijssel) en skiën is ook een grote passie van me. Ben met een Nederlandstalige getrouwd, dus kan het nog wel aardig...

    Nog geen ervaring met wintersport de Pyrineën - is het de moeite?

    Ik ga het in januari weer meemaken in Boi Taull. Tis er ook veel goedkoper dan in de Alpen :-). La Molina is ook gaaf, maar wel errug toeristisch.

    By the way, I was watching yesterday the "Real Bond" documentary about the stunts in "Casino Royale". I found it curious how the Bond producers got inspired by freerunning/parkour from a Channel 4 documentary, in which Sebastien Foucan appeared.

    Maybe similarly the Bond producers could get inspired by Julian Carr & Halvor Angvik, who really bring skiing and wintersports on the whole to a new, more exciting level. Have you seen some of those videos I have posted earlier?
  • edited October 2014 Posts: 11,425
    Amazing videos. Can't help but think the Cubby would have been all over those guys. Bond used to pride itself on having those kind of big, amazing stunts in the films first. For years now, there hasn't really been a truly amazing real stunt in a Bond movie. GE had bungy jumping, FFS! Like Bond is a college kid off on his year out...
  • edited October 2014 Posts: 5,745
    Getafix wrote: »
    Amazing videos. Can't help but think the Cubby would have been all over those guys. Bond used to pride itself on having those kind of big, amazing stunts in the films first. For years now, there hasn't really been a truly amazing real stunt in a Bond movie. GE had bungy jumping, FFS! Like Bond is a college kid off on his year out...

    I think the crane stunts and the DB9 crash in CR and two of the most memorable stunts in the last 25 years.

    The integration of Parkour (and getting the sports co-cteator to act the part) was a very Cubby move in my opinion. Stroke of genius that made for some great action.
  • edited October 2014 Posts: 11,119
    Getafix wrote: »
    Amazing videos. Can't help but think the Cubby would have been all over those guys. Bond used to pride itself on having those kind of big, amazing stunts in the films first. For years now, there hasn't really been a truly amazing real stunt in a Bond movie. GE had bungy jumping, FFS! Like Bond is a college kid off on his year out...

    I think for the past three Bond films history has been repeating itself again. With CR, QOS & SF I sometimes feel like I'm in a timetunnel to the years when DN and FRWL where premiering. In all honesty? I loved that timetunnel. It didn't bother me that the first three Craig films weren't so oriented on the stunts and action sequences. They were more focussed on good written characters...and how to introduce them again. A lot was about story and plot, less about individual elements like action and stunts.

    BUT, I now agree with you. It's time Bond 24 will do something groundbreaking again in the field of action and stunts. Do not forget that in 2015 the competition for Bond will come from many other franchises. A disadvantage "Skyfall" lacked. So we have the new M:4-film coming up, then a lot of buzz surrounding the new F&F-movie. We have a big-screen film of the "Man From UNCLE".

    So what you need to do then is OVERRULING ALL THESE FILMS and come up with something fucking trendsetting and jawdropping good! Action-wise, stunt-wise I mean off course ;-). Hence this topic. Let the villain be a dangerous ski-addict. Let him put a GoPro camera on his helmut, so every person in the cinema can see him (para)skiing.

    Just to warm you up, have a look at this video, filmed during the Winter Olympics in Sochi, just before the alpine skiing event started :-):
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sochi-2014-graham-bell-takes-3133524

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