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As for CR I have always not been impressed with the Miami sequence but the rest of the film is fine with me, even the much divided collapsing house climax and remains a firm no.3.
I'm unlike others who seem to be more gravitating back to the sillier films like MR and saying it is better than SF, it's down to everyone's opinion but Craig reinvigorated my passion for Bond again and even QOS for me is better than a good percentage of the series, I'll watch it over GF, YOLT and most definitely that dire tosh DAF as well as the later Moore films and all of Brosnan's tenure.
I have been a Bond fan since 1977 when I saw SWLM on the big screen my first Bond experience period but what I loved back then as changed considerably.
I think the serious tone balances fine with the more OTT moments in SF, I was satisfied and don't feel the reason to nit pick, what does surprise me is that so many haters are dedicating their time telling us what is wrong with it, I can't stand DAF or MR but you won't find me in those appreciation threads calling everyone deluded for liking it, I understand some of you didn't like it and that is fine but don't you think you should move onto something else instead of sounding like a broken record it's all getting a bit stale.
I completely agree with those comments. :)
(Btw. DAF was on tv a couple of days ago, so I watched it, and I still found it awful, just like I remembered. A good tune, but that's about it.)
Out of curiosity, what's your number 1? (I'm sure you've mentioned, but...)
OHMSS.
I saw some of it on TV a few weeks back too. Its ok, in fairness it does have character but IMO it sort of fizzles out a bit once they go into the desert. I remember switching over after 30 minutes to watch Se7en ;)
Anyway Skyfall, great film.
Casino Royale is a masterpiece as is Skyfall. Both films pretty much made me fall back in love With James Bond canon after the horrible years from Brosnan. I only ever watch connery's first 4 efforts,Ohmss,Daltons two efforts and Craigs Bond's cause its the way i like Bond been played.
As much as I love SF I now think CR is a slightly better film overall.
I have decided to give it time some time, and further viewings of both, and then maybe make my mind up sometime in the future. It's just too soon now. And it hardly matters - I love them both and for me that's enough.
"I was referring to the original vintage on which the sherry is based, sir. 1851, unmistakable!"
DAF is original vintage!
Please explain good sir... :-?
Surely it's self-explanatary?
But whether it edges SF or not, I ain't entirely sure. Both films are excellent.
The chase scene on the Underground probably tops both Miami Airport and the Venice sinking house, as does the climax at SF.
But the card game, torture and recovery are equally superb.
It's a tough one for me to decide.
I pretty much agree - except for me SF has a better soundtrack (easily).
But like I said before, since it's tough to decide, I'll just lea... oh... :D ...remembering dialogue by heart can cause issues when putting a couple of words after one another. Gotta do it quick - justleaveit - phew. Maybe some day I can decide which one I prefer without trying to force myself to it.
Interesting. I thought the tube chase was decent but not oustanding. In my mind's eye I saw something better and was a tad disappointed the first time I saw it. I particularly disliked the singles of Bond and Silva as they slid down the escalators. The momentum wasn't accurate. I don't think the coverage was great, without meaning to blow my own trumpet I'd have definitely shot it better. The idea was great but it was let down by some compositional problems and I don't think the edit flowed (mainly due to the shot choices).
I am one of the few fans of the sinking house scene, I think it's very well put together. In comparison to the tube sequence I think it's technically much more well realised.
Anyone who goes on the London underground knows there are ridges on the tube escalators to stop people sliding down them.
It's not a very realistic representation of my country's underground system :p
Yeah, I use it everyday. Not sure what your point is though?
I was thinking more of the chase once Bond and Silva both get on the train, chasing through carraiges, pausing and looking at each other across the crowded train before getting off, etc.
I found this sequence very gripping and engaging - much more than the generic tick-box action set-pieces often found in Bond movies - where you sit back and admire the stunt work, but don't feel particularly gripped by what is actually happening (the car chases in both TMWTGG and FYEO are a perfect example of this).
Ah right, I wouldn't go as far as gripping personally but yes it was neat. Am I right in thinking they cut a shot involving Silva telling a youth to turn his music down? Would have had a jarring effect given the circumstances, but would be fun to see a deleted scene. I still wish more than anything that they'd populated the train for the crash, I know it skews the film into very dark territory but I think it would have been completely fascinating for a Bond film to attempt something in this vein.
He then tells him to get up and move so an old lady can take a seat. I don't even know if such a scene fits with all the Bond/Q banter we've already had up to that point.
I was just jokingly nit-picking :p
Seriously, as much as I love seeing Bond on the tube in SF I'm not sure its as thrilling as the Miami airport chase in CR. I LOVED that sequence and it looks even better on Blu Ray. You can really feel Bonds urgency to stop that prick of a bomber.
However, the shot of Bond running out of Westminster station and across a street filled with police cars against Newman's patriotic score almost made me weep with happiness. Go get her 007! :) Apologies Rog but that IS keeping the British end up (*sorry for the cheesiness)
You'd of definitely shot it better, are you for real?
Seriously some of you have delusions of grandeur, just remind me when your billion dollar grossing film is coming out.
You do make me laugh!
Well you have no idea who I am, what I do, or how good I am at it. What are you, a 12 year old fanboy? Yes, I would have shot it better.
Hmm, I think Connery's performances were somewhat different and lacked continuity. In Dr.No he was this hard boiled detective-like character, then in FRWL he was this relaxed and super smoothe operator. By GF he was clearly worlds away from his portrayal in Dr. No as this supremely confident character who just oozed cool. By TB Connery had fully entered superhero territory, complete with flying jet pack. YOLT came along in which Connery arguably phones in his performance and then the big one, DAF. In DAF, Connery managed to out clown Roger Moore in the absurdly camp department and that's an achievement in itself when one considers Connery's earlier performances. I won't even mention NSNA.
In terms of performance/portrayal I think Brosnan was the most consistent.
Even though he doesn't have any idea who you are I think it's safe to say you are not someone who has a $1 billion grossing film on his CV so I think his comments have more than a modicum of validity. Unless of course you can show us your phone log of EONs constant calls begging for you to helm B24?