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Well if you really want to, here are the drops for these movies during Thanksgiving weekend :
Dark Knight : -7%
Inception : -22%
The weekends before and after Thanksgiving, the drops are in the "usual" -35/-60 zone.
Incredible. I think that if we were tracking here any movie the week end before Thanksgiving, everyone would say "well, next week the drop should be quite soft thanks to Thanksgiving". Now people are looking at some lists of figures years later, and they totally forget that, and now they have to overanalyze with other parameters to fall back on one's feet !
Yeah, I'm really comparing CR, QoS, SF with similar films like @Gustav_Graves is. Very interesting to compare the actual same weekend each year with different films like you have done but the real relevance - for me - is the drop between the first two weekends.
@Gustav_Graves, Dark Knight dropped by about 50% between first two weekends and Inception dropped by about 30%. Sorry - don't have exact figures in front of me at the moment but it was about that (Inception had great word-of-mouth and reviews.
Then you're left with nothing much to compare CR to in the recent years (which is IMO not a bad point though, box office comparisons are meaningless for me, it's so easy to forget what really happened when you're left only with some figures :) ). But really, IMO you should take into account that CR's second week end was Thanksgiving weekend before concluding that the -25% drop is the sign that the word of mouth was exceptional. For me you're looking at the wrong exception (here the exception would be the release date, Thanksgiving being very often the lowest drop of many movies - and don't forget I've not listed the animated movies, that have even lower drops there).
For me the best example of the Thanksgiving effect if you want to stay to similar movies but go further in the past are... GE, DAD and TWINE that all lose about 30/33% between weekend #1 and Thanksgiving weekend #2. I don't know if Will Smith's Enemy of State is something you can compare to, but it also had this pre-Thanksgiving spot, and lose less than 10% on week end #2. Also National Treasure is also an adventure movie that can be compared to Bond IMO, and it lose also less than 10% on week end #2.
I dont think anyone thinks it meant an exceptional of very good word of mouth prevented them from loosing the usual 50/60% of most other weekends. Because Gothika only lose 30% too in this spot :)
"Was I willing to go back into a room with a writer and start work on the same set of characters and the same scenarios as I've been working on for the last three years?” He asked himself. “The idea made me physically ill."
"“I say to them, my life is not a democracy. It's not up for discussion. What? 'Maybe I should go to one of the [Bond] chat threads and change my mind?' I don't think that's going to happen."
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/sam-mendes-says-he-felt-physically-ill-at-prospect-of-skyfall-sequel-20130426
This quote is well-documented. If you type into Google
Sam Mendes Bond Physically Ill
you get lots of links referring to his quotes.
I think the reality is Sony/MGM made him an offer he couldn't refuse but it's obvious he's only doing it for the cash, not out of an inherent desire to make another Bond film. If the prospect of doing another Bond film made him feel physically ill I can't imagine he's doing Bond 24 for anything but the cash. Fair enough, we all do things for money, but I don't think his earlier comments will endear him to some Bond fans. It's patently obvious he wanted to make one James Bond film and then move on with his career.
Just look how diverse his filmorgaphy is. He went from a black comedy about suburban life to making a gritty crime family drama to a gulf war movie etc.
He likes to switch things up and do different things all the time. This is even more evident in his theatre work, he's gone from Shakespeare to Chekhov and now to Willy Wonka.
He clearly mastered Bond in SF and there was little need to return as everything he felt he wanted to do with Bond he found himself doing in that movie. So inevitably he declined the invite to return. I really doubt money was the big factor in Sam returning, he's a creative sort who has to be turned on by the project opposed to merely chasing a paycheque. Personally I think he had no intention of returning, only recently to find out more about Logan's script (which we know he devised the story for in the first place), likely realised that the film was actually his movie all long and that he wanted to make it. I think it's a testament to what they have cooking for the next instalment which gets me very excited indeed.
Also the big paycheck day are over in the movie industry now, except possibly for him in this case, so he won't have another opportunity like this I'm afraid. Name another blockbuster that did so much more than planned. The Avengers perhaps ? And yet it was expected to be #1 somehow.
My expectations? I guess another 'origins' story. This time not about Bond (CR & QOS) or M, Q and Moneypenny (SF). But this time a good 'origins' story about Bond's antagonist. I have a gut feeling we will see a slow introduction of Blofeld and how QUANTUM evolves into SPECTRE. All adjusted to today's political environment.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you QoS. There are certainly things to admire in it (Gianni), but if there had been more time for the screenwriters to develop Greene's character and plot, it would have been a superior film.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you QoS.
http://www.nu.nl/film/3525451/nieuwe-james-bond-heet-devil-may-care.html
Obviously it won't.
I just don't get why they'd bother adapting one of the continuation novels, especially after hiring Logan.
Although I've only read the Fleming books (well, I say that, I still need to read the short stories), so I can't judge whether the book is good enough or not (although I've read nothing but bad things on here).
IF those rumors are true I would be nervous but interested
This may prove interesting listening for any Mendes or American Beauty fans out there.
I really understand and appreciate Conrad Hall's comments about most director's operating on a story level and maybe understanding the films subtext, but Mendes works maybe 3 or 4 levels deep and really understands and mines everything out of his films.
It's why SF is such a rich movie thematically.
It should be brighter/lighter in some regards, bringing more joy and gentlemanly aspects to Bond's character. Yet still kickass and brutal at times.