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With all his flaws, Brosnan did however contribute to the renewal of the franchise, making it popular again. It was not quite creative enough, the movies often lacked intelligence and originality, they were a bit by the number, Brosnan himself I agree was a mediocre actor, but people wanted him in the role and a new face for Bond did play a role in the success of GE. Maybe because of this he got a free pass in his subsequent movies. I know I was not critical of him until DAD.
I enjoyed Pierce very much in The Matador and of course the elegantly filmed, Bond-ish film The Thomas Crown Affair. I don't understand the strong negativity, hateful bashing of him as Bond, I just don't. He was Bond at the right time, he reinvigorated the franchise, and at least in his first two - for me - he was a very fine James Bond indeed.
I happen to enjoy every actor who has played Bond, except Lazenby. I like each of them and each of them have good films and not so good films. Okay, Timothy only had two and he was fine in both (TLD being my strong favorite of his two).
I don't empathize with folks who can only like one type of Bond or feel that one is their true Bond (e.g., Connery) and the others can never live up to that. I am a lifelong Bond fan, from the books, and I am okay with different interpretations/styles. It keeps the series fresh and continuing. If Bond, and Bond movies, hadn't changed, this series would have died out, truly. I'm really thrilled with Craig and I look forward to a few more from him, I hope.
I will qualify my previous post: Brosnan is an average actor that knows how to choose his roles well. He was right for Bond in that sense, but he admitted himself that he never nailed the role completely, which is I think an indication of his limitations as an actor.
Yes TtoP is a good film. Brosnan does sleazy really well. Oh and Jamie Lee Curtis was so flippin' hot!
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The business he has committed his life to, the belief in standing up for what is right and he feels is justice for his country in a world of grey ethics and questionable political morals makes every decision complicated and potentially ugly, sometimes impossible for him to live with.
These decisions mean living with the consequences of actions, with few, if no other alternatives, and then there is the daily possibility of his demise, this fuels the desire to take all he can get when the opportunity is presented, so the womanising, gambling, alcohol, cigarettes are a thrilling escape from a tomorrow that may not be reached, and if is, then the damage of the past is so out-of-control, redemption seems a futile cause.
In the short moments of reflection there is a vain hope that will always propel him back, to pick up the gauntlet of an evil adversary; this is why the lifestyle is a vicious and addictive cycle, which James Bond cannot live with or without.
Exploring the depth of the James Bond character will always leave the audience with the feeling of a self-confident personality guarding a troubled presence that haunts his soul; the mystery of his inner-self extends to why he can be who he is, and involve himself in the espionage world, where self-dependency is the only means of survival and the constant threat of an unscrupulous rival will justify as accepted reasoning to continue doing what needs to be done.
Very well put.
It's all in Fleming. In MR the novel Fleming talks of how Bond likes to spend all his salary every month as soon as possible. His aim is to have as little in his bank account when he is inevitably killed in a mission.
This is also reminiscent of Bond's retort to M in CR after she berates him: '00 have a short life expectancy". He knows he's likely to die soon so he thinks he's justified for his actions.
Thank god for Mendes. We may have had yet another non stop action romp. This sort of dialogue that we got from Silva on the island was pure Fleming. Seems like Logan is clued up on Fleming's literature which is great. It's obviously important that Eon find a Bond 24 director who shares Logan's vision.
I couldn't have put it better.
He was pretty much focused on mission without big distractions. Craig-Bond at least has that right. He is very much about the "duty".
Yeah, give us more of old Grumpy, weeping and failing!
By the Way ,the emotional depth so many of you see in Flemings work is Way overdone. This brooding Bond of the last few Novels was simply the result of Fleming knowing his time had come. Before that point there was hardly any Kind of emotional reflection at all ( Save hate,that is).
Exactly. This is what should happen.
It's not the worst thing to play with Bond's human side, but it's not worth dwelling on either. Bond is first and foremost about mission and getting the job done, in all the Fleming books. He has his moments of reflection but he doesn't dwell or get consumed.
I think this is an important distinction. Through many of the novels, not just the last two, Bond was a very thoughtful, sometimes conflicted, and even philosophical man. I re-read all of the Flemings a year ago and being a bit older myself (I'm Craig's age) I had a great appreciation for the "human Bond" of the novels and stories. I find that the recent era of films has used this aspect incredibly well, if not as true to Fleming as they could be (but if they did that I think the character would be unrecognizable to mainstream movie audiences as what they think "James Bond" is).
IMHO the last three films have found a great balance between emotion, character, and action. I certainly wouldn't complain if they stayed the course, but then I wouldn't be opposed to the next film being a little "lighter" either.
Yeah, that's right. Certainly he wasn't as down in the dumps in the earlier novels as he was following the death of his wife but still, that melancholy was there. I remember him reflecting gloomily after having to kill that chap in cold blood at the beginning of Goldfinger. Anyway, there are many other facets to Bond's character besides his depression.
Quantum real goal will be what Blofeld (OHMSS) can have done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=lv9pdyuYWlw
Eon whant to make Harry Potter stylish Bond Daniel Craig era.
All 3 Daniel Craig Bond movies are not easy to at to the other Bond movies. There take disstance with things up side down/mixed up things. What i like to see is that Bond 24 elements be handeld like Thunderball, OHMSS, OP, TMND, QOS, Yolt, DAF. Example: Plot should mixed up elements of Yolt, OHMSS, DAF, LALD and TMND/CR-QOS,Skyfall. The thrill should be like Thunderball and QOS.
Daniel Craig his Bond proof that he is smart sometimes but also very gritty, what i like to see is that we see a longer time (more then 3 months we see in Skyfall) Bond take disstance from Mi6. I whant to see him gamble, Martini, Bond girl and if needed we should see him smoke again, dreaming about Vesper, Mathis for example and someboy trow him out of Casino or we see him on the streets. Of course somebody from Quantum, Mi6 or Felix/Cia can bring him back in the game > Waterplot/Quantum real goal and Camile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn8alMYSu44
You used to say live and let live
(You know you did, you know you did you know you did)
But if this ever changing world in which we live in
Makes you give in and cry
Say live and let die
(Live and let die)
Live and let die
(Live and let die)
What does it matter to ya
When you got a job to do
You gotta do it well
You gotta give the other fellow hell
You used to say live and let live
(You know you did, you know you did you know you did)
But if this ever changing world in which we live in
Makes you give in and cry.
Say live and let die
(Live and let die)
Live and let die
(Live and let die)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eje28TK4D00
Odds are, you won't like what it is
When the storm arrives, would you be seen with me?
By the merciless eyes of deceit?
I've seen angels fall from blinding heights
But you yourself are nothing so divine
Just next in line
Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
The odds will betray you
And I will replace you
You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you
It longs to kill you
Are you willing to die?
The coldest blood runs through my veins
You know my name
If you come inside things will not be the same
When you return to the night
And if you think you've won
You never saw me change
The game that we all been playing
I've seen diamonds cut through harder men
Than you yourself
But if you must pretend
You may meet your end
Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
The odds will betray you
And I will replace you
You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you
It longs to kill you
Are you willing to die?
The coldest blood runs through my veins
Try to hide your hand
Forget how to feel
Forget how to feel
Life is gone with just a spin of the wheel
Spin of the wheel
Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
The odds will betray you
And I will replace you
You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you
It longs to kill you
Are you willing to die?
The coldest blood runs through my veins
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
Great points. It surprised and impressed me that Silva made a reference to Bond's pills in SF. That seemed very Flemingesque.
I'm all for it.