The thread of Bond lists - LIST 157 - Evaluate the FRWL Opening Titles. (see criteria)

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Worst of OP
    5. General Orlov. (not a fan of him to be honest.)

    4. The Tennis racket weapon and Indian citizens going back and forth as if it was a Tennis match.

    3. Car on train tracks. I thought that was unnecessary.

    2. Bond in the ape costume. Clown suit was enough.

    1. "Having a hard time keeping it up Q?" That line makes me cringe every time.
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    Murdock wrote:
    Worst of OP
    5. General Orlov. (not a fan of him to be honest.)

    Thought I was the only one who found him dull.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited July 2013 Posts: 14,662
    1. When Bond is in the gorilla suit, he tries to read his watch.
    2. Bond is in the gorilla suit.
    3. The green submarine.
    4. Tarzan yell. You'd think Eon would've learnt something since the slide whistle nine years prior.
    5. Sit, tiger. Attaboy.

    Once upon a time, I would've dismissed the clown suit, but it's logical that Bond would disguise himself like this in order to stop the bomb. The weak part is the brief amount of time he took to get dressed up, paint his face etc.
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    The worst of OP:

    1. Tarzan yell
    2. the guy at the air base "and he's wearing a red shirt"
    3. "Sit"
    4. James Brolins screen test
    5. checking watch in gorilla suit.


    I don't really see any problem with the clown disguise or even the croc submarine, kind of logical disguises.


  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,249
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.
    LIST 18: The 5 best moments in DN.
    LIST 19: The 5 worst moments in FRWL.
    LIST 20: The 5 best moments in FRWL.
    LIST 21: The 5 worst moments in GF.
    LIST 22: The 5 best moments in GF.
    LIST 23: The 5 worst moments in TB.
    LIST 24: The 5 best moments in TB.
    LIST 25: The 5 worst moments in CR67.
    LIST 26: The 5 best moments in CR67.
    LIST 27: The 5 worst moments in YOLT.
    LIST 28: The 5 best moments in YOLT.
    LIST 29: The 5 best moments in OHMSS.
    LIST 30: The 5 worst moments in DAF.
    LIST 31: The 5 best moments in DAF.
    LIST 32: The 5 worst moments in LALD.
    LIST 33: The 5 best moments in LALD.
    LIST 34: The 5 worst moments in TMWTGG.
    LIST 35: The 5 best moments in TMWTGG.
    LIST 36: The 5 worst moments in TSWLM.
    LIST 37: The 5 best moments in TSWLM.
    LIST 38: The 5 worst moments in MR.
    LIST 39: The 5 best moments in MR.
    LIST 40: The 5 worst moments in FYEO.
    LIST 41: The 5 best moments in FYEO.[
    LIST 42: The 5 worst moments in OP./size]

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 43</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 best moments in OP.</b></font>
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,357
    Best of OP.
    5. The PTS. Short and Sweet.

    4. The Dramatic tension. OP is one of the most tense Bond movies. It leaves you on the edge of your seat every time the end approaches.

    3. Kamal Khan. One of my Favorite villains. He's so suave and cold. Much like an Anti Bond if you will.

    2. Maud Adam's return. I don't think anyone but her could do it. She was painfully underused in Golden Gun and should have lived. I'm glad she got a second chance here.

    1. The various nods to Fleming. Property of a Lady, Major D Smythe, ect ect.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    5 - Fill her up, please.

    4 - Barry's ominous music starts playing once the bomb under the canon has been revealed.

    3 - Gogol lecturing Orlov when the latter has been shot.

    2 - Bond kissing OP for the first time. Moore meant it.

    1 - Bond confronting Orlov on the train.
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    1. The Bede jet PTS. Damn them in the Making Of doc for shattering the illusion of a seven year old boy that a small plane COULDN'T actually fly sideways through an aircraft hangar ;-)

    2. Bond and Orlov "I'm British Secret Service!"

    3. Despite the clown outfit, the genuine panic from Bond in trying to convince the U.S. General that an atomic bomb is about to detonate.

    4. Desmond Llewellyn finally getting a more substantial role. Plus he gets the killer line: "Oh cut it out, no time for that..........later perhaps!"

    5. The finale between Bond and Gobinda on top of the plane.

    Oh and an honourable mention to when Bond kills Grischka with one of his own throwing knives.
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    5 - The use of the short story within the plot. Brilliant.
    4 - The kiss between Octopussy and Bond. One of my favourite romantic scenes in the entire series and almost certainly Moore's best. Barry's accompanying score is wonderful.
    3 - Moore. This is one of his best performances and I would probably say it's his best non-serious/comedic (serious being TMWTGG, 75% of TSWLM, FYEO) one.
    2 - So many things. The PTS, the train sequence (I think I actually prefer it to Skyfall's, believe it or not), the clown suit (which I used to despise but now understand to have been necessary, and which I enjoy thoroughly), and almost every scene in the film. I love how Q gets a harem of women after him following the balloon sequence.
    1 - Any and all things related to Louis Jordain and Kamal Khan. Orlov was a very dull villain (I actually think he's one of the worst in the series) and Jordain made up for it in every way with his performance. I've praised this before, but if I had to define this point with one moment/line, then it would be "You have a NAAAASTY habit... of surviving!"

    So much stuff left out. I wish I could make ten or even fifteen points instead of five. Octopussy might be the pound-for-pound most entertaining film in the series.
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    1. The final battle between Bond & Gorbinda on top of the plane
    2. Vijay's killing - not because I liked it; on the contrary, it was another episode where a pleasant character is lost and I'm sorry to see him/her go
    3. The nitfy exit Magda makes out the window using her sari
    4. The homage to GF when Bond interferes with Khan's crooked dice game, down to Gorbinda's update of the Oddjob golfbal crush
    5. Bond's knifing revenge on Grischka
  • 5. The twins chasing down 009.

    4. PTS

    3. Fight on the plane.

    2. The climax. The chaos is believable and honestly frightening. The only thing amiss is the clown suit.

    1. Orlov vs. Gogol. Ham to ham combat.
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    5 Fight in top of the train
    4 006 arriving at the Embassy with the Fabergé in his hand (that scene is pure thriller)
    3 The auction scene
    2 Gogol and Orlov final exchange: "Just a common thief"/ "But tomorrow I will be called a hero of the Soviet Union"
    1 The PTS
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    1. PTS, the best of them all for me, maybe.
    2. Double sixes "fancy that", Bond at his most cool.
    3. The train sequence, superb.
    4. Bond and Octopussy are rudely interupted by yo yo saw goons.
    5. The climax with Bond hanging from a plane.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,249
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.
    LIST 18: The 5 best moments in DN.
    LIST 19: The 5 worst moments in FRWL.
    LIST 20: The 5 best moments in FRWL.
    LIST 21: The 5 worst moments in GF.
    LIST 22: The 5 best moments in GF.
    LIST 23: The 5 worst moments in TB.
    LIST 24: The 5 best moments in TB.
    LIST 25: The 5 worst moments in CR67.
    LIST 26: The 5 best moments in CR67.
    LIST 27: The 5 worst moments in YOLT.
    LIST 28: The 5 best moments in YOLT.
    LIST 29: The 5 best moments in OHMSS.
    LIST 30: The 5 worst moments in DAF.
    LIST 31: The 5 best moments in DAF.
    LIST 32: The 5 worst moments in LALD.
    LIST 33: The 5 best moments in LALD.
    LIST 34: The 5 worst moments in TMWTGG.
    LIST 35: The 5 best moments in TMWTGG.
    LIST 36: The 5 worst moments in TSWLM.
    LIST 37: The 5 best moments in TSWLM.
    LIST 38: The 5 worst moments in MR.
    LIST 39: The 5 best moments in MR.
    LIST 40: The 5 worst moments in FYEO.
    LIST 41: The 5 best moments in FYEO.[
    LIST 42: The 5 worst moments in OP.
    LIST 43: The 5 best moments in OP.[size]

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 44</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 worst moments in NSNA.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,249
    5 - Jumping in the water on a horse.

    4 - The urine-in-face joke as a means to actually decide the outcome of a 'serious' fight.

    3 - The unbelievably dull underwater struggle between Largo and Bond.

    2 - Radio-luring the sharks to Bond in the sunken ship... Really? :O

    1 - Connery looks like a Power Ranger wearing that helmet and driving that bike.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,357
    5. - Ride of the Water horse and the bizarre close up on Connery's face.

    4. - The video game duel. I kept picturing Cylons about to burst in.

    3. - Bond wearing a helmet riding a motor cycle. safety first I know but James Bond doesn't wear a helmet!

    2. Dull climax.

    1. Michel Legrand's godawful music score. [-(
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    5. Fatima throwing the snake into Jack Patachi's car- incredibly stupid and, quite frankly, probably the lamest "assassination" attempt in any Bond movie (though technically NSNA doesn't count in that category, hahaha)
    4. Bond getting stabbed by the woman in the training sequence- most disappointing pre-titles sequence? (even though it technically is not PTS) How about the one that's not an actual mission? Yeah, talk about a let-down!
    3. Edward Fox's M getting heated towards Bond- he comes off looking more foolish than he does any bit superior or authoritative
    2. Fatima Blush's speech to Bond- I'm sorry, but she is as cheesy as they come!
    1. Domino spearing Largo- it just doesn't seem convincing to me that she would do that; the Domino from Thunderball? Yes, I was convinced she'd kill Largo. But Kim Basinger? Sorry, but I still find her unconvincing as a vengeful mistress
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    5: Legrand's score. Worst film score ever?
    4: Video game duel. It's aged HORRIBLY.
    3: Gym fight
    2: Horse jumping into water.
    1: The fact that we're actually doing NSNA.
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    I apologize but I won't participate in this one nor the next as I haven't seen NSNA and even if I've watched it, I don't rank fan films. (Well, on a second thought it ain't even a fan film for you actually have to like the franchise and to be a fan... this one is more a hatred driven film.)
  • Posts: 2,402
    0013 wrote:
    I apologize but I won't participate in this one nor the next as I haven't seen NSNA and even if I've watched it, I don't rank fan films. (Well, on a second thought it ain't even a fan film for you actually have to like the franchise and to be a fan... this one is more a hatred driven film.)

    I envy you. Oh, God, I envy you.
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    1. Connery's Toupee
    2. Connery's Toupee
    3. Connery's Toupee
    4. Connery's Toupee
    5. Everything else.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited July 2013 Posts: 14,662
    I'm not ashamed one bit to admit I love like this film. Who's with me?

    1. You can lead a horse to water, but not like this.
    2. Nigel Small-Fawcett. I enjoy Atkinson, but he doesn't fit in a Bond film. In a spy comedy, however... Now there's an idea. :-?
    3. The climax could've been more memorable.
    4. As mentioned above, M acts like a fool. Also, he holds Bond's methods in much less regard than his illustrious predecessor did. How dare he?!
    5. Too brief a scene of Bond and Fatima going down. I'm quite fond of diving.

    EDIT:
    QBranch wrote:
    I'm not ashamed one bit to admit I love like this film. Who's with me?
    Okay, so obviously everyone overlooked the question. Yes, that's it- 'overlooked'.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2013 Posts: 4,534
    1. No Gunbarrel
    2. No Robert Brown
    3. No Lois Maxwell
    4. No Desmond LLewelyn
    5. No Special Edition DVD

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,249
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.
    LIST 18: The 5 best moments in DN.
    LIST 19: The 5 worst moments in FRWL.
    LIST 20: The 5 best moments in FRWL.
    LIST 21: The 5 worst moments in GF.
    LIST 22: The 5 best moments in GF.
    LIST 23: The 5 worst moments in TB.
    LIST 24: The 5 best moments in TB.
    LIST 25: The 5 worst moments in CR67.
    LIST 26: The 5 best moments in CR67.
    LIST 27: The 5 worst moments in YOLT.
    LIST 28: The 5 best moments in YOLT.
    LIST 29: The 5 best moments in OHMSS.
    LIST 30: The 5 worst moments in DAF.
    LIST 31: The 5 best moments in DAF.
    LIST 32: The 5 worst moments in LALD.
    LIST 33: The 5 best moments in LALD.
    LIST 34: The 5 worst moments in TMWTGG.
    LIST 35: The 5 best moments in TMWTGG.
    LIST 36: The 5 worst moments in TSWLM.
    LIST 37: The 5 best moments in TSWLM.
    LIST 38: The 5 worst moments in MR.
    LIST 39: The 5 best moments in MR.
    LIST 40: The 5 worst moments in FYEO.
    LIST 41: The 5 best moments in FYEO.[
    LIST 42: The 5 worst moments in OP.
    LIST 43: The 5 best moments in OP.
    LIST 44: The 5 worst moments in NSNA.[size]

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 45</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 best moments in NSNA.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,249
    @QBranch, I can find things in NSNA to like. ;-)

    5 - Bond's case full of caviare, foie gras and other goods. Splendid moment.

    4 - I rather like Domino's smile after finding out that her masseur wasn't who he made it out to be. Sean still has it.

    3 - Fatima goes out with a bang.

    2 - I'm certainly glad we chose your room (or something like that. ;-))

    1 - The awesome video game battle; awesome for its day!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,357
    5. Opening Sequence.

    4. Health Spa Fight.

    3. Massage Scene

    2. Q-Branch scene. I like Q in this actually. He may not be Desmond but he is unique.

    1. Nigel Small-fawcett (Who doesn't love Rowan?)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,534
    1. Sean Connery as Bond
    2. Opening include Title song
    3. Iff i remember there whas also motor bike chase in it
    4. Dance scene with Kim Basinger
    5. Villian whant to play a game with Bond.
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    5: The fact that it made a star out of Rowan Atkinson. What would we ever do without Blackadder or Bean?
    4: Connery wasn't AS horrible as he was in DAF.
    3: Felix Leiter.
    2: The moment the end credits began rolling.
    1: Calvin Dyson's review.
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    #1 Any time Barbara Carerra is on screen

    #2 The fight between Connery and the heavy when the sports game is underway (killed by urine sample / broken glass etc)

    #3 The 'control of the world' video game between Bond and Largo

    #4 The pre credits sequence. Actually very well done

    #5 struggling now. Haven't seen this in a long while. Motorcycle chase with Sean Connery in the South of France
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,662
    DarthDimi wrote:
    @QBranch, I can find things in NSNA to like. ;-)
    :-? Gee, I dunno... all I can remember is the gratuitous sex and violence. ;)

    1. Bond leaves the health farm out of shape.
    2. The video game scene. 'Domination' was more than a decade ahead of its time, as evidenced by the 'dual shock' joysticks.
    3. Fatima. No explanation needed- except that I'm going to put her in my memoirs as number one. ;)
    4. The sequence in North Africa (minus the horse jump, which was one absurd stunt away from Bond saddling Pegasus).
    5. After 12 years, Sean returns as James Bond. And for me, NSNA turns out to be more enjoyable than his final Eon film (and dare I say, OP). I love how they play on the fact that Bond is much older, and on the verge of retirement.

    Honourable mentions:

    -Bond on his bike- the one with the motor.
    -Bernie Casey is one of the better Felix Leiters.
    -Connery's wife providing the title. Check the end credits.
    -Domino's massage scene, and her (lack of) apparel in North Africa.
    -The Tears of Allah, located beneath a desert oasis.
    -'Yes, but my martini's still dry.' Brilliant.
    Murdock wrote:
    5. Opening Sequence.
    I quite like the opening sequence too- including the theme song.
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