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  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    5. Any scene without Denise Richards
    4. the boat chase (minus the part on the streets, really dumb)
    3. Sophie Marceau has got to be one of the most beautiful women to ever appear in a Bond Movie.
    2. Elektra, the first female main villain in a Bond movie.
    1. Elektra's death. "I never miss"
  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
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    LIST 57: Top 5 moments in TWINE :

    5) Title song and end credits

    4) Zukovsky character and his lines

    3) Q scene at Eilan Donan (right spelling?) Scottish castle, including "R" (John Cleese character)

    2) PTS

    1) The relationship between Bond and Elektra, especially last scenes (torture plus "I never miss") / Pierce Brosnan's perf on average, whatever people may say.
  • 5. Title song & sequence

    4. All things Valentin Zukovsky

    3. PTS

    2. Goodbye to Desmond Llewellyn.

    1. Bond kills Elektra
  • #1 The entire pre titles sequence in London

    #2 The maidens tower sequence near the end, culminating in King being slain by Bond

    #3 The introduction of 'R' , and being berated by Q

    #4 The sequence at the oil pipeline center and King turning on M

    #5 Bond and his 'X-ray specs' at the Casino. "I'm here to see Valentin Zukofsky. Tell him James Bond is here. Now"
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    1. The entire PTS. I like that it's 15 minutes long- it adds to the film's uniqueness.
    2. Q has an escape plan. RIP Desmond.
    3. The scenes with Bond and Valentin. Good chemistry here.
    4. The scenes at the Maiden's Tower.
    5. The death of Elektra followed by "I never miss". A great scene to rival Dr. Kaufman's in TND.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17-57: The 5 worst moments in DN - The 5 best moments in TWINE.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 58</b></font>

    This is the big one, 007!

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 (or 10) worst moments in DAD.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    5 - Every moment where Arnold recorded the music backwards to then play it backwards again.

    4 - Jinx' lines. The line delivery was tasteless but the lines themselves are venom to my Bane.

    3 - Madonna's cameo. Sorry dear, about 15 years too late.

    2 - CGI plane, CGI ice surfing, CGI everything... because it was done poorly.

    1 - CGI ice surfing!!!! Because it's THAT bad. (really, it is)
  • edited September 2013 Posts: 6,396
    Oh God. The moment I have been dreading has finally arrived. Here goes.

    1. CGI that bad should never ever be seen on film, let alone a Bond film.

    2. Halle Berry's performance as Jinx. Granted the character is badly written and has awful dialogue like this: "Yo mama". Really? REALLY???, but Berry is just bloody terrible in this film. Makes me constantly cringe.

    3. The writers totally bottle the plot of Bond being a "broken man" fifteen minutes into the film when he turns up at the best suite of a five star hotel not looking like a man who's just spent the last fourteen months having his testes stung by scorpions!

    4. Graves turns into effing RoboCop. It looks like the filmmakers pinched the totally crap suit that Captain Freedom refuses to don in The Running Man!

    5. The invisible car. Dear oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear.....

    6. The piss poor homages to the previous forty years of Bond including Q's lab filled with "old relics".

    7. Mr Kil. Nothing more to say here.

    8. The gene replacement therapy crap. Yeah right!

    9. The ice palace that looks like it's actually made of cheap plastic.

    10. And last but certainly by no means least, Madonna's cameo. Sends a shiver down my spine every time I watch it. (Her song isn't much better either).

    (Edited to include ten entries)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    10. Invisible car.
    9. Moneypenny's new sex toy.
    8. The unseen plot about African conflict diamonds.
    7. Bond back to Superman mode right after the PTS.
    6. Waste of Michael Madsen.
    5. Madonna's cameo.
    4. All of Jinx's dialogue.
    3. The stupid gene therapy subplot.
    2. Korean guy becoming a British guy with magic plastic surgery.
    1. Another Doomsday satellite with a laser beam.
  • Murdock wrote:
    10. Invisible car.
    9. Moneypenny's new sex toy.
    8. The unseen plot about African conflict diamonds.
    7. Bond back to Superman mode right after the PTS.
    6. Waste of Michael Madsen.
    5. Madonna's cameo.
    4. All of Jinx's dialogue.
    3. The stupid gene therapy subplot.
    2. Korean guy becoming a British guy with magic plastic surgery.
    1. Another Doomsday satellite with a laser beam.

    I think you should play fair and restrict it to 5. Hard to do I know but I was refused an extension for more myself ;-)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I couldn't help myself. the last time I watched it made me just as angry the last time I watched both Shuemaker Batman films.
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    5. Jinx
    4. Madonna's title song
    3. Korean turning British
    2. VR training
    1. The ultimate insulte to the Moneypenny legacy
  • To be fair, I could so a do "50 worst things" for this film!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Are we only allowed 5? This needs some thought.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    The 5 (or 10) worst moments in DAD. that's the title of this topic.
  • Are we only allowed 5? This needs some thought.

    Yes, I may have to edit at some point if I think of even worse entries.
  • Murdock wrote:
    The 5 (or 10) worst moments in DAD. that's the title of this topic.

    Has that just been amended or did I miss it originally?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    You must have missed it.
  • edited September 2013 Posts: 2,402
    I'm doing 20. Yup. Here we go. Point form at least, to keep it relatively short. I'm relishing it. I loathe this movie.

    20: RoboCop.
    19: Super Space Lasers in Space IV: ICARUS
    18: Yo mama
    17: I just got tortured for 14 months. I look impeccable and haven't suffered any physical or mental repercussions.
    16: Hamlet... I mean... ten times too long sword fight
    15: Moneypenny gets boned in VR. Ruined the character.
    14: Pathetic replacement for Desmond.
    13: Oh look! A billionaire amassed his wealth in 14 months and didn't exist beforehand! NOT WORTHY OF SUSPICION AT ALL.
    12: CGI bullet ruins the gunbarrel. Fuck you, Imawhori!
    11: Horrible, overly done, in your face references to every previous Bond film
    10: Slo-mo every three seconds.
    9: Invisible car.
    8: Madonna's theme song.
    7: Madonna's cameo. Vomit worthy.
    6: Michael Madsen's pointless character.
    5: They set up a surveillance team in his fucking closet. What if he wanted to grab his coat?
    4: Sith powers.
    3: The best performance is by a character who has all of ten lines and gets killed in some bad melodrama with his son.
    2: Pierce Brosnan wasn't too old to play Bond at all. /sarcasm
    1: Gustav Graves. You suck, Toby Stephens. Congratulations on being the worst villain ever, tied with Charles Gray!
    BONUS: Number 0 since it's not even worthy of counting as anything other than nothing: Tsunami surfing.

    This movie can burn in hell. So can Tamahori for all I care. It's disgusting that I could easily have doubled this list.
  • edited September 2013 Posts: 6,396
    I'm doing 20. Yup. Here we go. Point form at least, to keep it relatively short. I'm relishing it. I loathe this movie.

    20: RoboCop.
    19: Space Laser II: ICARUS
    18: Yo mama
    17: I just got tortured for 14 months. I look impeccable and haven't suffered any physical or mental repercussions.
    16: Hamlet... I mean... ten times too long sword fight
    15: Moneypenny gets boned in VR. Ruined the character.
    14: Pathetic replacement for Desmond.
    13: Oh look! A billionaire amassed his wealth in 14 months and didn't exist beforehand! NOT WORTHY OF SUSPICION AT ALL.
    12: CGI bullet ruins the gunbarrel. Fuck you, Imawhori!
    11: Horrible, overly done, in your face references to every previous Bond film
    10: Slo-mo every three seconds.
    9: Invisible car.
    8: Madonna's theme song.
    7: Madonna's cameo. Vomit worthy.
    6: Michael Madsen's pointless character.
    5: They set up a surveillance team in his fucking closet. What if he wanted to grab his coat?
    4: Sith powers.
    3: The best performance is by a character who has all of ten lines and gets killed in some bad melodrama with his son.
    2: Pierce Brosnan wasn't too old to play Bond at all. /sarcasm
    1: Gustav Graves. You suck, Toby Stephens. Congratulations on being the worst villain ever, tied with Charles Gray!
    BONUS: Number 0 since it's not even worthy of counting as anything other than nothing: Tsunami surfing.

    This movie can burn in hell. So can Tamahori for all I care. It's disgusting that I could easily have doubled this list.

    And I thought I hated this movie!! ^:)^
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    The movie is an offense to all other cinema ever created.
  • edited September 2013 Posts: 183
    Excellent list by @Stirrednotshaken - have to agree 100%.

    As an addendum, I'd like to add:

    1/ Jinx
    2/ CGI Jinx bending over backwards and diving into the sea
    3/ Any Jinx dialogue, particularly "Yo Mama" and "especially when I'm bad"
    4/ Jacinta Johnson
    5/ The depressing fact that Jinx didn't die
  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
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    LIST 58 - 5 or 10 worst moments in DAD

    5) Poor lines in general. A plot that leads to confusion, in details and randomly written after the Icarus presentation.

    4) Madonna's character and song

    3) Jinx character (and lines)

    2) CGI effects (the very worst being Bond surviving the tsunami)

    1) Gustav Graves/Moon/(Toby Stephens)/Darth Robocopious...
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I'm doing 20. Yup. Here we go. Point form at least, to keep it relatively short. I'm relishing it. I loathe this movie.

    20: RoboCop.
    19: Super Space Lasers in Space IV: ICARUS
    18: Yo mama
    17: I just got tortured for 14 months. I look impeccable and haven't suffered any physical or mental repercussions.
    16: Hamlet... I mean... ten times too long sword fight
    15: Moneypenny gets boned in VR. Ruined the character.
    14: Pathetic replacement for Desmond.
    13: Oh look! A billionaire amassed his wealth in 14 months and didn't exist beforehand! NOT WORTHY OF SUSPICION AT ALL.
    12: CGI bullet ruins the gunbarrel. Fuck you, Imawhori!
    11: Horrible, overly done, in your face references to every previous Bond film
    10: Slo-mo every three seconds.
    9: Invisible car.
    8: Madonna's theme song.
    7: Madonna's cameo. Vomit worthy.
    6: Michael Madsen's pointless character.
    5: They set up a surveillance team in his fucking closet. What if he wanted to grab his coat?
    4: Sith powers.
    3: The best performance is by a character who has all of ten lines and gets killed in some bad melodrama with his son.
    2: Pierce Brosnan wasn't too old to play Bond at all. /sarcasm
    1: Gustav Graves. You suck, Toby Stephens. Congratulations on being the worst villain ever, tied with Charles Gray!
    BONUS: Number 0 since it's not even worthy of counting as anything other than nothing: Tsunami surfing.

    This movie can burn in hell. So can Tamahori for all I care. It's disgusting that I could easily have doubled this list.

    You forgot Mr Kil.
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    Oh I didn't forget him. Even with 20 entries my list can't begin to accomodate the amount of fecal matter that makes up Die Another Day.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    5) Terrible CGI - It was embarrassing for 2002 standards. It doesn't look any better today.

    4) Forget about it - Let's have Bond get captured and tortured and then just abandon the idea and not have it make any impact on the rest of the story.

    3) The plane fight - Fighting Robocop in a burning, crashing plane that's crumbling to pieces.

    2) Halle Berry - Just when we thought that Denise Richards was the worst Bond girl ever, the producers outdid themselves. She is one of the most stupid and annoying characters from any movie that I have ever seen.

    1) Gene Therapy - :))
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Man, do I agree with everybody. My only exception is that I like Pierce's acting in this, especially the first half.

    Here I go, then:

    5) The so called theme song. Horrible travesty.
    4) ALL the CGI - it was embarrassing, embarrassing for a Bond fan or any cinema fan
    3) The camp scenes of Bond walking dripping wet into the hotel with no attitude or sign at all of being tortured or starved
    2) Jinx - ALL of Jinx, stinking lines, crap delivery, stupid attitude - all horribly, horribly wrong
    1) The bloody script - tied with Tamahori's ideas, direction, everything

    Ugh. I need to go wash now, that was disgusting revisiting that film, which is such a poor excuse of a Bond film.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    5. One of the worst villains ever.
    4. Too much CGI
    3. Brosnan at his worst
    2. Jinx, the worst Bond girl ever. Terribly acted, terribly written, terrible everything.
    1. The invisible car...it's like the Bat credit card of the JB film franchise.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    1) Too much CGI- and it's dodgy. Especially the tsunami surf scene, which could've looked better with a mix of CGI, miniatures, and actual footage behind Broz.
    2) The gene therapy idea is interesting, but a Bond film should only contain traces of sci-fi.
    3) Way too many puns thrown in there. It needed more intelligent dialogue, like the scenes with Bond and M.
    4) The notion of Bond being imprisoned for over a year and his rise back to the top was something unseen in the series, but it was soon discarded.
    5) I like the theme song on it's own, but it needs more lyrical content- it's too repetitive. And even with that change, it still isn't Bondian. Whoever has heard Madonna's earlier work would agree she could have delivered a great Bondian tune. Although I don't understand the hate for her being seen in the film.

    I get why this film sits near the bottom of most people's list (I rank it there too), but I still thoroughly enjoy watching it on occasion. Now, time to face reality.
  • Going to be quick this night, but only to say, the five worst moments (you could feasibly be in triple figures on this) from Die Another Day would have to be -

    #1 Bond surfing CGI waves. What the thump were they thinking ?

    #2 The Ciccone theme intro. Awful techno-style garbage, from a once decent artist

    #3 The end with the helicopter and Bond picking diamonds from Halle Berry's navel

    #4 The "I'm Mr Kil" quote, and Bond's response "Now there's a name to die for"

    #5 Moneypenny and the Virtual Reality scene near the end. "Hard isn't it ?" - "Yes, very"

    It was even harder for most, to watch that overall piece of crap excuse for a James Bond "adventure"
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