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  • ColdfingerColdfinger
    edited November 2013 Posts: 317
    I really can't think of any besides the eye thing. Basinger was pretty hot but I don't think she holds a candle to Domino or Fiona from TB.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited November 2013 Posts: 14,569
    List 86: Six things NSNA did better than TB

    1. A better actor playing Felix
    2. More thrilling Shrublands scene (fight)
    3. More interesting and engaging Largo
    4. More thrilling appearance of a motorcycle here (Volpe's BSA vs. Bond's Turbo Seca)
    5. (scraping the barrel now) Cooler watch gadget (geiger counter vs. clasp mounted laser)
    6. I wouldn't say Lani Hall's theme was better than Tom Jones', but I do prefer it.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    This will be awkward as been a while since a viewing of both, especially Thunderball

    #1 better pre credits sequence ? I always thought the Thunderball one was quite dull and over too quickly, and the ridiculous moment of Connery on a jet-pack so soon after his no-nonsense appearances of his first two releases, did him, and the overall release, no favors it would be fair to say

    #2 Better theme intro. I can't remember who sang the NSNA theme, but can hear it in my head, and it's better than the Tom Jones' effort

    #3 More action and things to get involved in. Too many boring underwater sequences in TB that dragged on too long and left the viewer uncomfortable

    #4 A better bad girl involved, that was Fatima Blush over Fiona Volpe

    #5 Klaus Maria Brandauer was a better main adversary than Adolfo Celi

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    How would Oscar Wilde have put it?

    'To have one member say Lani Hall's dirge is better than Tom Jones belting out a classic Bond song could be classed as odd. To have two people in a row say it is f*****g insane.'
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,270
    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    How would Oscar Wilde have put it?

    'To have one member say Lani Hall's dirge is better than Tom Jones belting out a classic Bond song could be classed as odd. To have two people in a row say it is f*****g insane.'

    :))
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    1) A better Largo.

    2) A better Domino.

    3) A better Felix.

    4) Explaining SPECTRE's plan clearly.

    5) Explaining why Bond is at Shrublands.

    6) The action scenes are more exciting, particularly the underwater ones.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited November 2013 Posts: 4,423
    DarthDimi wrote:
    6 - The urine joke.

    And even that gag was recycled by Dick Clement and Ian Frenais from Porridge

    ;-)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17-65: The 5 worst moments in DN - The 5 best moments in SF.
    LIST 66-71: The 5 best things about Connery's Bond.- The 5 best things about Craig's Bond.
    LIST 72: The 5 best non-Bond roles for Sean Connery.
    LIST 73: Name 7 still living directors you want to do a Bond film.
    LIST 74: Five favourite franchises inspired by Bond.
    LIST 75-80: Five things the Moore Bond did that you never would. - Brosnan - Connery - Dalton - Craig - Lazenby
    LIST 81-85: Your 5 favourite one night stands from the 60s. - 2000s including SF.
    LIST 86: Six things NSNA did better than TB.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 87</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>Six Bonds that were significantly weaker than their predecessor.</b></font>


  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    6 - DAF

    5 - TMWTGG

    4 - AVTAK

    3 - TND

    2 - TWINE

    1 - QOS
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    1. TB
    2. DAF
    3. MR
    4. OP
    5. TND
    6. QOS
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    6. QoS
    5. GE
    4. AVTAK
    3. YOLT
    2. MR
    1. DAF
  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
    Posts: 523
    LIST 87 :

    I could also include TND, DAD and QoS but you asked for 6 so,

    6) LTK
    5) AVTAK
    4) Moonraker
    3) TMWTGG
    2) YOLT
    1) Thunderball
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    I'm reading some interesting choices here. ;-)
  • Zorin61Zorin61
    Posts: 418
    6 - DAF
    5 - TND
    4 - AVTAK
    3 - MR
    2 - QOS
    1 - TMWTGG
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    6) GF
    5) QoS
    4) TND
    3) TWINE
    2) DAF
    1) AVTAK
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2013 Posts: 4,515
    1. Goldfinger
    2. Moonraker
    3. LTK
    4. Die Another Day
    5. Casino Royale
    6. Skyfall
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    CR worse than DAD @M_Balje? Blimey, that's certainly an interesting choice.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    1) DAF
    2) QoS
    3) TND
    4) TMWTGG
    5) TB
    6) LTK
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,569
    1. DAF - significantly weaker than OHMSS.
    2. TMWTGG - significantly weaker than LALD.
    3. AVTAK - significantly weaker than OP.
    4. DAD - significantly weaker than TWINE, although for me, DAD is as enjoyable as TWINE.
    5. QOS - significantly weaker than CR, but then, many of the other entries are.

    If I must list 6, I'd probably say YOLT - although IMO, it's not 'significantly' weaker than TB- it holds up okay.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Significantly weaker ...

    And by the way, I totally disagree with TND - it is my favorite Brosnan film; I rank it quite close to GE.

    1) Moonraker - yes, a big step in the wrong direction after TSWLM
    2) TMWTGG - yeah, I was disappointed, a good deal weaker
    3) AVTAK - yes, it was a big step down from OP
    4) QOS - coming after a truly great Bond film; it has a great ending but was full of problems and was (there is that word again) significantly weaker than CR
    5) DAF - but really, I dislike OHMSS a lot; Rigg saves the film for me, I simply do not enjoy that movie or think it is much good as a Bond movie ... I think DAF just goes off the deep end, too campy and disappointing but I almost cannot say significantly weaker than OHMSS. Yet for this list, I will put it there.

    I am tempted to say honorable mention to: TB and DAD also.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    WillyGalore wrote:
    CR worse than DAD @M_Balje? Blimey, that's certainly an interesting choice.
    hehe.

    6.QOS
    5.OP
    4.TB
    3.MR
    2.GE
    1.DAF
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    QBranch wrote:
    5. QOS - significantly weaker than CR, but then, many of the other entries are.
    4EverBonded wrote:
    4) QOS - coming after a truly great Bond film; it has a great ending but was full of problems and was (there is that word again) significantly weaker than CR

    I agree with both of you. I thought about pointing this out myself. It's not that I think QoS is terrible. It's just that CR was sooo good that it can't help but pale in comparison.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,569
    @pachazo Exactly. And I still haven't made a final decision on SF. I can't rate it higher than CR, but it may be equally as good. It's like they're in a never-ending arm wrestle.
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    edited November 2013 Posts: 3,236
    6. Octopussy (likewise)

    5. Tomorrow Never Dies (much smaller gap than the other four)

    4. Quantum of Solace

    3. Thunderball

    2. Moonraker

    1. Diamonds are Forever
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    1. Quantum of Solace
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Die Another Day
    4. You Only Live Twice
    5. Live and Let Die
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    #1 Goldfinger
    #2 Die Another Day
    #3 A View to a Kill
    #4 Quantum of Solace
    #5 Diamonds are Forever
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17-65: The 5 worst moments in DN - The 5 best moments in SF.
    LIST 66-71: The 5 best things about Connery's Bond.- The 5 best things about Craig's Bond.
    LIST 72: The 5 best non-Bond roles for Sean Connery.
    LIST 73: Name 7 still living directors you want to do a Bond film.
    LIST 74: Five favourite franchises inspired by Bond.
    LIST 75-80: Five things the Moore Bond did that you never would. - Brosnan - Connery - Dalton - Craig - Lazenby
    LIST 81-85: Your 5 favourite one night stands from the 60s. - 2000s including SF.
    LIST 86: Six things NSNA did better than TB.
    LIST 87: Six Bonds that were significantly weaker than their predecessor.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 88</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>Six Bonds that were significantly stronger than their predecessor.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,173
    6 - FRWL

    5 - OHMSS

    4 - TSWLM

    3 - FYEO

    2 - TLD

    1 - CR
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    6 - FRWL

    5 - OHMSS

    4 - TSWLM

    3 - OP

    2 - LTK

    1 - SF
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,569
    1. FRWL- significantly, although DN holds up well.
    2. OHMSS- this has a more engaging story/action/cinematography than many of the entries.
    3. TSWLM- significantly? Considerably. And you can really see the money on screen.
    4. TLD- one of the strongest comes after one of the weakest.
    5. CR- only 4 years between CR and DAD, and the quality couldn't be more contrasting.
    6. SF- significantly, although QoS is far from the steaming pile others claim it to be.
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