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  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    5. Orchestral goofiness when Bond kills the spider

    4. The plane of glass under the spider.

    3. "There's a dragon!"

    2. Gunbarrel sequence wackiness

    1. Bond theme overuse
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Hmm, tough one this, @DarthDimi

    5. "Full steam ahead!" - From Dr No's guards; even though he's dropped his microphone, the dubbing sounds like he's talking through said microphone

    4. "Fetch my shoes" - uncomfortable by todays standards.

    3. Car chase backprojection -

    2. In particular; watch Connery's hands he's turning the steering wheel when he's going straight!

    1. Monty Norman's music is that of 30's style stage show

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    royale65 wrote:
    Hmm, tough one this, @DarthDimi

    5. "Full steam ahead!" - From Dr No's guards; even though he's dropped his microphone, the dubbing sounds like he's talking through said microphone

    4. "Fetch my shoes" - uncomfortable by todays standards.

    3. Car chase backprojection -

    2. In particular; watch Connery's hands he's turning the steering wheel when he's going straight!

    1. Monty Norman's music is that of 30's style stage show

    Good one, that, @royale65! :D

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    5. Rear Projection Car Chase.
    4. Bad voice dubbing in certain spots.
    3. Fetch My Shoes.
    2. Dragged out scenes.
    1. Monty Norman's score. sans the Bond theme.
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    5. Fetch my shoes
    4. Overuse of the Bond theme
    3. Every other piece of Normans very dated score
    2. Back projection
    1. The audio syncing of the guy in the boat with the megaphone. Can't stand that!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    But DN doesn't have any bad moments!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    But DN doesn't have any bad moments!

    It was tricky to come up with those five, I must admit.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    royale65 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    But DN doesn't have any bad moments!

    It was tricky to come up with those five, I must admit.

    I can't think of any. The only thing I hate is that Quarrel dies, but I can hardly blame the film for that since it made me love the character in the first place.
  • 00130013
    edited April 2013 Posts: 1,817
    I'm not the biggest DN's fan but it's because the movie as a whole has never been particularly appealing for me. Nevertheless here are some of the thing I don't like about it:

    001 Monty Norman score (specially the theme at the end; even so, I missed his Dr No's fantasy because that was an interesting song)
    002 M saying MI7
    003 Having a Q that isn't played by Desmond Llewelyn
    004 The rear projection in the car chase
    005 The death of Strangways secretary (it looks very cheap and bad performed)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Doesn't M say MI7, not MI5?

    I don't get all the hate for the projection during Bond's chase with the Three Blind Mice. Those screens are all a part of the charm of the films at the time, in and outside of Bond.
  • 00130013
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    Yes, you're right! it was MI7.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Looks like the score is generally considered one of the film's major weaknesses.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 018</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 best moments in DN.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited May 2013 Posts: 24,169
    5 - Very first M and MP scenes in film

    4 - Honey steps out the water

    3 - "One million dollars. You were wondering what it cost." (Dr. No's introduction)

    2 - "Bond - James Bond" (lights cigarette)

    1 - Bond shoots Dent
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    1. Bond....James Bond.
    2. Shooting Dent.
    3. Sir make sure he doesn't get away.
    4. Honey Rider's reveal.
    5. Gunbarrel Sequence!
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    1. Bond...James Bond
    2. Professor Dent
    3. Honey emerging from the water
    4. M and Moneypenney scene
    5. Dinner with Dr. No
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    5. Bond and Honey being shown their "room" (Always find this so creepy and effective in a way)
    4. "Nothing more than a stupid policemen". The whole scene is brilliant
    3. Bond shoots Dent
    2. Honey's entrance
    1. Bond, James Bond
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    1) Bond, James Bond.
    2) Honey's Entrance.
    3) Bond kills Dent.
    4) Dr No dinner scene.
    5) First Moneypenny/M scene.
  • YtterbiumYtterbium
    Posts: 269
    1) Title Sequence : From the James Bond theme to the Jamaican music
    2) Dent picking the spider
    3) Bond meeting Quarrel in the Carrabbeans : feels more like holidays than spy movie
    4) Bond killing the guard in the water
    5) the fake driver committing suicide just upon Bond arriving.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited May 2013 Posts: 12,480
    1) Bond. James Bond.
    2) Honey emerging from the sea (the whole scene, including, "Just looking.")
    3) Moneypenny and Bond
    4) Bond shoots Dent
    5) Bond waiting as the tarantula/spider crawls up him, and then kills it
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Now this is one I am happy to participate in. Only five? Criminal, @Dimi. Criminal. ;)

    5.) A tarantula starts Jamaican Bond tense.

    4.) Bond and Dr. No have dinner.

    3.) Bond sees Honey rise from the ocean.

    2.) Bond silences Dent

    1.) "Bond. James Bond"
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,632
    5. Bond fights the Government House driver.
    4. M and Moneypenny's first scenes
    3. Bond kills Dent "... and you've had your sixth."
    2. Bond sees Honey come out of the ocean singing Underneath the Mango Tree.
    1. Bond introduces himself to Sylvia and the world for the first time.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    1) Fetch my shoes

    Just kidding.

    5) Bond getting the best of Quarrel and Puss-Feller (love that name) and meeting Felix for the first time.
    4) Bond wakes up to find Honey coming out of the water. No, I'm just looking ;)
    3) Killing Professor Dent.
    2) Flirting with Ms. Moneypenny. You can tell he's had a few drinks that night. What a brilliant introduction to their relationship.
    1) Having dinner with Dr. Julius No.
    Ytterbium wrote:
    2) Dent picking the spider
    Yes I love that scene too. It's extremely effective in it's creepiness. Didn't make my top five but definitely an honorable mention.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    There's nothing wrong with the 'fetch my shoes' incident. Today, now, or in the future. They had to leave in a hurry, Quarrel was nearest (to Bond's shoes), and he was asked to fetch them (as in - he was nearest). I always fail to see the furore in this. I think Connery rushed the line a little that seemed the request a little rude to some, but as before, they were in a hurry. It's never a big deal

    Best moments

    #1 Introduction of James Bond to the cinema screen

    #2 Ursula Andress comes out of the ocean

    #3 Dinner date with Dr No and the discussion

    #4 Spider in the bed

    #5 Fight with Dr No at Crab Key near the very end

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    1) "And you've had your six." PFF PFF
    2) Dr. No orders Dent to kill Bond with the spider :-SS
    3) Dinner with Dr. No
    4) "I admire your luck, Mr...?"
    5) Honey Rider exits the water and enters our hearts 8->
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    QBranch wrote:
    1) "And you've had your six." PFF PFF
    2) Dr. No orders Dent to kill Bond with the spider :-SS
    3) Dinner with Dr. No
    4) "I admire your luck, Mr...?"
    5) Honey Rider exits the water and enters our hearts 8->

    and then we had our hearts broken by that awful Berry appearance 40 years later in Die Another Day in a direct reference to the legendary Andress appearance. If that wasn't enough harm done, even Bond himself got in on it in Casino Royale. That's twice it's been spoiled now. You do have to wonder, who, or what, will be up next for this

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    That's twice it's been spoiled now. You do have to wonder, who, or what, will be up next for this
    The introduction of the villain.

    "Come on in, Mr. Bond- the water's fine... MWAHAHAHA!"
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    Exactly.
    And I, for one, am quite relieved I did not see Silva in a Speedo!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,169
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.
    LIST 18: The 5 best moments in DN.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 019</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 worst moments in FRWL.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I will be relieved when this is behind me for, let's be frank, what's bad about FRWL? Okay, here's my selection of the 5 minor thingies that fall right below the platform of perfection:

    5) The gypsy sub-plot is perhaps a bit stretched out in places.

    4) The wall mine special effects, which is mostly a strange coloured light spectacle.

    3) "Spectre Island" I think this could have been a great concept but it's too underused.

    2) The cue from Norman's DN score that invaded Barry's score when the helicopter comes down (and also during the boat climax: see '1)')

    1) The boat climax: a bit of an afterthought, not really required.

    Again, I'm forcing myself into coming up with a selection. This is really tough. ;-)
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