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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Geez, my #1 Bond film of all time. But I haven't seen it in a while, so I need to watch it to find flaws ...

    OK, starting with:

    5) The opening music - meh
    4) Background projection in final scene
    3) gypsy girls fighting looks mostly silly and why was this shown anyway? Seems so irrelevant ...


    Oh good heavens that's all I've got. I'll try to watch it in the next few days.
    Plus I didn't like Connery's hat. So there.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited May 2013 Posts: 14,585
    DarthDimi wrote:
    <font color=green>The 5 worst moments in FRWL.</font>
    I'll overlook that typing error for now, and play along...

    5) Kerim's death. Such a great character and ally
    4) M switching off the recording just as Bond starts describing his 'interesting experience' with M in Tokyo. Excuse me, but we were listening to that.
    3) Making it unclear whether or not it actually is Mr. Fleming himself standing next to the train
    2) ? (gee wiz, I'm struggling now) How about Bond slapping Tatiana? James- she loves you, she loves you, it's true.
    1) The end credits. Why does it have to be over?

    Phew, that was difficult.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Haha, you are a jokester, @Dimi. I will give it a go:

    5.) The credits
    4.) The credits
    3.) The credits
    2.) The credits
    1.) The credits
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    Posts: 3,236
    In no particular order:

    5. Bond theme playing for no reason (but it's still cool)
    4. Helicopter sequence feels tacked on (but it's still cool)
    3. Morzeny doing a terrible job at directing the SPECTRE ships (but it's still cool)
    2. The bad special effects of Kerim's being shot (but he's still cool)
    1. The lyrics to the theme song (which we don't have to listen to in the opening credits)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    5. Bond slapping around Tanya.
    4. Slow transition scenes.
    3. Lack of Kronsteen.
    2. Re-use of Dr. No music.
    1. The final rear projected scene + Connery's creepy hand wave.

    Boy that was tough.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    1. The horrible editing during the final scene with Bond and Tatiana in the boat, when it cuts to Bond's line "I'll show you" (should have just left in the "what a performance" line, because the editing job is awful, especially Tatiana's voice-over line "Vwhhat eeez eet?")
    2. The early scenes where Bond is driven to Kerim's office, and then where he and Bond chat a bit, and then take a tour of the underground catacombs (too dull for my liking)
    3. The scene with Bond and Tatiana on the large boat, where Bond records her voice to send over to MI6, talking about the Lektor (once again, too dull and slow)
    4. Some of the less important scenes aboard the Orient Express
    5. Much of the soundtrack, especially the tracks re-used from Dr. No
  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    I can't really point one... the rear projection at the end and Connery's hand is not the coolest thing on the movie but I accept it as something of good old cinema. But I really can't think of another bad thing of this perfect, favorite Bond movie and top 10 movies in general for me.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I know, @DarthDimi is torturing us, and himself, with this one.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @4EverBonded, Consistency is everything but yes, I'm torturing even myself. :(
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited May 2013 Posts: 24,183
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.
    LIST 18: The 5 best moments in DN.
    LIST 19: The 5 worst moments in FRWL.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 20</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 best moments in FRWL.</b></font>
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    5 - Kronstein, Klebb and Blofeld talk for the first time.

    4 - The PTS.

    3 - Bond meets Tatiana.

    2 - Kerim shoots Krilencu.

    1 - Bond fights Grant on the train.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    1. Train Fight.
    2. Gypsy Camp Fight.
    3. PTS.
    4. Kerim finishing Krilencu.
    5. Bond Meets Tatiana.

    Honorable Mention: John Barry's score.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Now we're talking, @Dimi!

    5.) Bond and Kerim head to the sewers
    4.) Bond vs. a helicopter
    3.) Kerim kills Krilencu
    2.) The gyspy camp
    1.) Bond and Grant fight to the death
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    #1 The Connery / Shaw fight on the Orient Express

    #2 The escape with the Lektor device

    #3 Krilencu attack on the gypsy camp

    #4 Bond and Rosa Klebb in Venice. 'She's had her kicks'

    #5 The pre-titles sequence. Short, but plenty of suspense

    PS Heaven help anyone who dares to find a 'five worst moments of Live and Let Die'
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    #1 The Connery / Shaw fight on the Orient Express

    #2 The escape with the Lektor device

    #3 Krilencu attack on the gypsy camp

    #4 Bond and Rosa Klebb in Venice. 'She's had her kicks'

    #5 The pre-titles sequence. Short, but plenty of suspense

    PS Heaven help anyone who dares to find a 'five worst moments of Live and Let Die'

    Challenge accepted. /:)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Yeah, me too. In fact, I think I could easily go to ten. ;-)
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    5. Fight in the gypsy camp

    4. Blofeld's first scene

    3. Bond meeting Tanya

    2. The fact that it has a real, live plot.

    1. Bond vs. Grant

    I love the movie, but found it harder to pick the five best moments than the five worst. Odd.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    5. Bond meets Tanya
    4. Bond vs Helicopter
    3. Gypsy Camp Fight
    2. Bond gets the Lektor.
    1. Bond fights Grant.
  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    005 every moment between Bond and Kerim
    004 Red Grant stares at Bond from inside the Orient Express
    003 Bond trasmits the message to MI6 as M and the department listens
    002 Blofeld speech on siamese fighting fish
    001 Bond meets Tanya
  • bondbat007bondbat007
    Posts: 1,407
    5. Red Grant stalking Bond on the train platform
    4. Bond and Tayna transmitting the message to M and staff
    3. Bond meets Tanya
    2. "She should have kept her mouth shut"
    1. Bond vs Grant on the train
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    LIST 1: The 007 most intelligent Bond girls
    LIST 2: Your 007 favourite OT sequences by Maurice Binder
    LIST 3: Your 007 most annoying moments in a Bond film
    LIST 4: Rank the Aston Martin cars from the Bonds
    LIST 5: 007's 007 coolest moments
    LIST 6: Rank the non-Barry/Arnold scores
    LIST 7: Your 007 most sexy moments in the Bonds
    LIST 8: The 6 best moments of Bond in London
    LIST 9: The 007 best uses of the Bond Theme
    LIST 10: The 5 worst faces made by the Bonds
    LIST 11: Your top 10 PTS
    LIST 12: The 6 best scenes in OHMSS
    LIST 13: David Arnold's 6 finest moments in the Bonds
    LIST 14: The five nicest folks who ever played a part in a Bond film.
    LIST 15: Ranking the Glen directed Bonds.
    LIST 16: Rank the Blofelds (including NSNA and FYEO)
    LIST 17: The 5 worst moments in DN.
    LIST 18: The 5 best moments in DN.
    LIST 19: The 5 worst moments in FRWL.
    LIST 20: The 5 best moments in FRWL.

    <font color=orange size=5><b>LIST 21</b></font>

    <font color=green size=6> <b>The 5 worst moments in GF.</b></font>
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited May 2013 Posts: 16,351
    1. The gangsters that ask questions when something weird happens.
    (Wat's wit dat trick pool table!?! hey why's da floor moving? ect..)

    2. Banjo music cue when everyone gets to Goldfinger's Ranch.

    3. Goldfinger's Death.

    4. Rear projection of Miami Hotel.

    5. Bond repeatedly getting captured.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited May 2013 Posts: 24,183
    Another painful endeavor, but okay:

    5 - Climactic countdown rather incredulously stretched, even for a Bond film.

    4 - The CIA visits Kentucky Fried Chicken. Tasteful comedy or just silliness?

    3 - Bond doesn't really do all that much, now does he?

    2 - Makes no sense for GF to first explain his plan to the mobsters, take the trouble even to keep up appearances with Solo, and then gas them all to death anyway.

    1 - What's with that banjo stuff in Kentucky?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited May 2013 Posts: 28,694
    I'll be back when we get to YOLT. Right now this is absolutely bloody impossible. Is this what the next Mission Impossible film is going to be about?

    Computer voice: "Ethan, your mission, should you choose to except it, is to find 5 faults in the 2006 film Casino Royale!"

    Ethan: "I think this mission really is going to be...

    ...impossible!"

    *MI theme plays* B-)
  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    As @Brady said, this is impossible, at least from FRWL to TB included.
    GF? The banjo cue is appropiate as they are in the US, the gangsters talking in campy but I don't care and of course Goldfinger's explanation makes no sense but it've never bother me (in fact, I've never thought of that before joining this forum.)
    So GF it's faultless in my regard.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    But the lush Jazz que was much better as they were in Miami. ;)
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    Posts: 3,236
    Oh, my, this will be tough.

    1. Goldfinger explaining his plan then killing the mobsters
    2. Goldfinger's outrageously fake...something when he flies out the window of his plane
    3. The violence against women
    4. 007/003 seconds left
    5. Duck hat
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Can't you just include the whole movie as a #1 answer and just be done with it ?

    1 Awful background images when Bond is in Miami beach watching Auric play cards

    2 The judo tussle with Pussy in the barn - and stupid sound effects

    3 Frobe being sucked out of the airplane window

    4 Listening to the Beatles without ear-muffs

    5 Connery doing 'stupid faces' at the cell guard
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I'm having a blast with this, people. :D @Baltimore_007, seriously, you don't like the stupid faces Connery makes? :P I've always thought that to be funny. :-)
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    In no particular order.

    1) "Listening to the Beatles without earmuffs" It'd be funny if The Beatles weren't brilliant.

    (I also find it funny how Bond slags them off here and then years later a former Beatles member and his new band performed what's widely regarded as the best Bond theme ever).

    2) The barn bit. Bond forces himself on Pussy and because of this she switches sides.

    3) Connery's creepy grin at the guard.

    4) Any of the scenes where Bond sits around captured or doing nothing.

    5) Goldfinger explains his plan to the stereotypical American gangsters then kills them all anyway.
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