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The upcoming rerelease of The Music of James Bond should shed some light on this. According to the Mi6 interview Burlingame has extensively interviewed both Newman and Epworth, so should find out.
Personally, whilst I like the song, I don't think it has enough of a hook to support an entire score though.
This is the end
Hold your breath and count to ten
This is the end
Hold your breath and count to ten
Feel the earth move and then
Hear my heart burst again
Let the sky fall
Let the sky fall
When it crumbles
We will stand tall
Face it all together
Where you go I go
What you see I see
These 5 parts could have been instrumented into melodic cues I feel.
I wouldn't be against having Adele again. I wonder how much truth there is to this. Have they really asked her again, I wonder? Have Eon ever asked the same artist to do two consecutive Bond songs? Bassey never did two in a row, although maybe they asked her to.
Many of us would have loved to have had it woven into the soundtrack at times, and I want that for Bond 24. If Newman returns, I hope he is much more willing to give us certain things that make it sound like a Bond film, even while being wholly creative on the rest of the soundtrack himself. He certainly has the talent. I believe his ego, or at least his own strong vision that did not include the theme song for Skyfall, got in the way.
It would be nice to have a male singer this time. I do not know who would be considered a front runner at this point.
I get that some composers don't like using established themes but for crying out loud it's a JAMES BOND MOVIE!!! use the theme please. Bond has earned it already! I'm sick of movie scores with generic themeless music that would only serve as background music in a video game! David Arnold used it very well.
Anyway, info from Wikipedia (yeah, I know; listing the sources at the bottom):
RE: Skyfall, the song, and its inclusion in the Komodo Dragon segment:
The song was not included in Skyfall: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack, marking the second time in the Bond series that the theme song was split from the soundtrack album, following "You Know My Name" from Casino Royale in 2006.[28]
Wilson and Broccoli still asked composer Thomas Newman to include a reference to "Skyfall" in the film's score, "so that it didn't appear as a kind of 'one off' at the top of the movie". Newman opted to include an interpolation in the track "Komodo Dragon", used in a scene where Bond enters a casino in Macau. According to Newman the scene had "a real moment of 'Bond' swagger", and the music fitted the scene accordingly.[29][30] Epworth was visited by Newman for advice, and Redford, who was already doing the score's orchestration, was requested to arrange "Komodo Dragon"; Newman was unable to do the arrangement because he felt that his task "was already so huge and daunting".[29]
source #28: Caulfield, Keith (16 November 2012). "'Skyfall' Soundtrack: Highest-Charting Bond Album in 27 Years". Billboard. Prometheus Global Media.
source #29: Schweiger, Daniel (5 November 2012). "Interview with Thomas Newman". Film Music Magazine
source #30: Hewitt, Chris (2012). "Thomas Newman On The Skyfall Soundtrack". Empire.
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Anyway, moving forward - I have not read any firm rumors, speculation about any artist except Adele and that was ages ago. Hoping we get some news on the singer or group soon.
As for Newman not wanting to use the Skyfall theme, what a load of bu****it. I don't want him back if he refuses to use theme songs. Sounds very egotistical to me.
Did Adele not wanting to have her song on the soundtrack album have anything to do with Newman being unable to use it in the movie? Although if he used it in the casino scene, then he must have been allowed I guess.
Still, the Bond theme itself doesn't need to be overused and since Craig's appointment as Bind the theme has been used sparingly with cues of the Bond theme used to brilliant effect; David Arnold really did an excellent job for both CR and QoS.
It's impetigo be that EoN get someone to score Bond 24 who isn't going to make basic and fundamental expectations an issue.
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/music/prom-queen-paloma-faith-interview-9698729.html
Arctic Monkeys are great, they are one of my favourite bands and they've been on my list, again, for years. But Paloma Faith is one of those artists who were made to sing a Bond theme!
Here some of her better songs:
The title theme for "Maleficent":
The title theme for "The Great Gatsby":
I must say, I'm not a big fan of the melodies she sings. For me they sometimes are a bit too forgettable. But her voice however is wunderful jazzy, sultry and sexy. And being part of the Bond family usually results into great unforgettable melodies. Look to Paul Epworth. Perhaps Daniel Kleinman can actually use del Rey's looks for the main title sequence, like Binder did with Sheena Easton ;-).
I do think, if EON chooses Lana del Rey, they have a wunderful replacement for Adele. She also sang the title theme for "The Great Gatsby". I also think that EON is not really jumping to have a rock band/star again for a Bond theme in a while. With Adele the more classic, sultry, smooth and down-tempo songs have become more "trendy" again. Just like in the 1960's for such a long time (Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Louis Armstrong).
Well, I disagree with you then :-). In a friendly way off course.
Really disappointed that Newman is returning. I would have liked Hans Zimmer to be given a turn. He is a brilliant collaborator - happy to work with others and always sharing the credit with those he works with. Newman seems utterly unsuited to the collaborative nature of a Bond movie.
My fear is that without the composing quality of Adele/Epworth, it will be left to the performing artist alone to write the song, as with Jack White. The results when this happens are usually below par.
Shame Newman seems to be such an egotistical twerp. His lacklustre score (the worst since GE?) would have been massively improved by including more the Adele title track. This kind of stupidity just makes me really angry - when something could so easily have been so much better, but due to the ego of some overrated Hollywood 'name' the end result is just not very good.
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/7089/bring-thomas-newman-back-for-bond-24-appreciation-topic/p1
I always thought, and still think, that David Arnold misses a certain talent that Thomas Newman has IMO: Depth, warmth, pre-composed written music on paper without actually watching the actual scenes, in the vain of John Barry. Thomas Newman for me is besides a magnificent movie score composer, also a magnificent modern classical music composer and a magnificent conductor as well.
As you can read in the above topic, Thomas Newman for me was a master move. I know a lot of fans think that Newman was helped by the fact that he composed a 50-year-jubilee Bond film when he received a Grammy Award, a BAFTA Award and an Oscar nomination. But I strongly disagree.
Now my question to all of you. Where was it confirmed that Thomas Newman won't do Bond 24?? Because when I Google for that information, I don't find anything. Except the above topic ;-).
http://i.imgur.com/fhWeCxy.jpg
And for the lovers of some real "John Barry"-esque orchestrations, a new album was released. All her songs from her first album "Sing At The Moon" were re-orchestrated by the Dutch Metropole Orchestra. Please indulge in pure classy soul with a dash of jazz. You can listen to the entire album here:
I wouldn't say fake... depressing, yes. Like a broken record:
That woudl be one aspect of the film I could look forawrd to. [-O<
nah
Uhm...you sure?
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It's "Nah" :P
In terms of composers, I think Newman is the superior artist out of him and Arnold. With Arnold's compositions, you get the impression he gets bored toward the end of the film and just throws in a lot of noise. His scores in the Bond films atleast, aren't as atmospheric as Newman's. The only thing Newman's SF score was missing was a nice slow harmony. One gets the impression with Anold though that he tries too hard to make his scores sound big and Bondian without really properly feeling the mood and tone of the scene. Not all the time but certainly sometimes. He does have some nice isolated tracks, mostly being the slower ones, but overall his Bond scores are somewhat lacklustre. QOS was a bit of an improvement.