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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited September 9 Posts: 24,798
    Dial of Destiny I gave this film another go and it is not very good.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,464
    FoxRox wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    While I haven't seen it personally, I've noticed a lot of older people at my movie theater getting sad during Reagan. I'm interested in it (as someone who isn't a fan of Reagan's policies or acting). It's just something I've noticed, and hearing the old folks talk about the old days. I just nod and let them go on, as long as I'm not busy. If I see it, I'll let you know. PS Robert Davi is in it.

    I’m an amateur Ronald Reagan historian myself, but the marketing and critical response to this movie tells me it’s unfortunately a one-sided picture in his favor. It’s very rare of course you’ll find any individuals with a nuanced opinion of Ronald Reagan, seems to almost always either be “best president ever!” or “worst president ever!” Frankly, I’d be just as disappointed if a straight-up hit piece was made about him as well, even though there is plenty about him I don’t like; going too positive or negative just creates more echo chambers. Something sort of like Oliver Stone’s Nixon I guess is something I’d be looking for.

    I finally got around to seeing Reagan. Firstly, @FoxRox you are right in more ways than one. It is a bit off putting how much it seems to portray Reagan as a positive person in politics. He had some dirty people who did some bad things, and he always did the right thing, when he didn't. So, the biopic is VERY flawed in that part. Robert Davi is truly unique, and was perfect in his casting. You might not recognize him at first! Olek Krupa is seriously one of the most underrated character actors out there, and he could have easily been used in Bond. Dennis Quaid should win an award or two, his mannerisms as Reagan were borderline perfect. At least, Nancy Reagan was not portrayed mostly positive. As she was known for being quite rude to staff members. But, I'm not writing this as a political lesson. The acting overall saves this movie on so many levels. Overall, much like many people's opinions of Ronald Reagan, I could go either way recommending this biopic.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    While I haven't seen it personally, I've noticed a lot of older people at my movie theater getting sad during Reagan. I'm interested in it (as someone who isn't a fan of Reagan's policies or acting). It's just something I've noticed, and hearing the old folks talk about the old days. I just nod and let them go on, as long as I'm not busy. If I see it, I'll let you know. PS Robert Davi is in it.

    I’m an amateur Ronald Reagan historian myself, but the marketing and critical response to this movie tells me it’s unfortunately a one-sided picture in his favor. It’s very rare of course you’ll find any individuals with a nuanced opinion of Ronald Reagan, seems to almost always either be “best president ever!” or “worst president ever!” Frankly, I’d be just as disappointed if a straight-up hit piece was made about him as well, even though there is plenty about him I don’t like; going too positive or negative just creates more echo chambers. Something sort of like Oliver Stone’s Nixon I guess is something I’d be looking for.

    I finally got around to seeing Reagan. Firstly, @FoxRox you are right in more ways than one. It is a bit off putting how much it seems to portray Reagan as a positive person in politics. He had some dirty people who did some bad things, and he always did the right thing, when he didn't. So, the biopic is VERY flawed in that part. Robert Davi is truly unique, and was perfect in his casting. You might not recognize him at first! Olek Krupa is seriously one of the most underrated character actors out there, and he could have easily been used in Bond. Dennis Quaid should win an award or two, his mannerisms as Reagan were borderline perfect. At least, Nancy Reagan was not portrayed mostly positive. As she was known for being quite rude to staff members. But, I'm not writing this as a political lesson. The acting overall saves this movie on so many levels. Overall, much like many people's opinions of Ronald Reagan, I could go either way recommending this biopic.

    I appreciate the report back - nice bullet points you have there! I’ll likely check it out someday for the sake of my curiosity, but obviously go in very guarded. I mean, I’m the type to watch almost anything for the hell of it, even the God’s Not Dead movies, which couldn’t be more opposite of my feelings!
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,532
    Dial of Destiny I gave this film another go and it is not very good.

    I enjoyed it in theaters but tried watching it a few months ago and couldn't get past once jones arrives in Morocco
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,865
    Dial of Destiny I gave this film another go and it is not very good.

    My one viewing of it when it released was more than enough for me, which is really saying something cause I've seen KOTCS a few times now.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,464
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Dial of Destiny I gave this film another go and it is not very good.

    My one viewing of it when it released was more than enough for me, which is really saying something cause I've seen KOTCS a few times now.

    I know I recently talked about legacy sequels with Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Lucasfilm and their legacy sequels have been mixed bags with the public, even though I personally enjoyed them. I did almost include The Force Awakens (with Blade Runner 2049 and Top Gun Maverick), but I narrowly didn't because it really didn't take too many creative risks as it should have, like those two. That job it seems went to The Last Jedi, and it feels like it took almost too many of them for people to enjoy. A fair criticism for TLJ, but I still enjoy both (and even Rise of Skywalker (don't throw Jar Jar dolls at me, please)! For bending the creative safeties and risks even if it clearly didn't work in its favor. In everyone's defense, TROS was a lose-lose situation in more ways than one.

    As for the two Indiana Jones legacy sequels. I enjoy them probably more than most fans do. As I've said before, Indiana Jones could have been Lucasfilm's true answer to James Bond. But some people didn't hit the mark soon enough. And when the main creators finally decided to make another one, there were clearly some disagreements that weren't recovered as soon as they should have. For both Crystal Skull and Dial of Density. Indiana Jones movies were never meant to be masterpieces. Steven Spielberg said this himself. As long as they are well thought-out, and are entertaining, I can't ask for more. The 2 legacy sequels have two actors who are not particularly liked I know (PWB and SL). However, Harrison Ford and the main villain actors (MM and CB) more than make up for them. Indiana Jones has unlimited adventures, in any time period. Some people don't realize this, unfortunately.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,865
    Kinds of Kindness

    Yorgos continues to be one of my favorite directors working today. This one was a surreal, bizarre triptych unlike anything I've seen before, with ominous music and killer performances to boot.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited September 10 Posts: 8,952
    Dial of Destiny I gave this film another go and it is not very good.

    I think DOD is absolutely great. Maybe not quite as great as ROTLA and TLC (I almost wrote "Holy Grail"), but I enjoyed it every time I watched it, and this has been more often than KOTCS, which I actually also like. For me, this has about the same endless rewatch value as NTTD, and I mean that positively.
  • edited September 10 Posts: 12,419
    IMO, DOD and NTTD are both flawed but worthy sendoff films.
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    I don't hate DOD but, man, why is it so difficult to make a simple adventure movie?

  • edited September 12 Posts: 12,419
    @MaxCasino

    I went to see Beetlejuice Beetlejuice myself. You wrote a nice review, and though I have a few issues with it, I thought overall it was a real joy and I had a wonderful time with it. It’s Burton’s best since Sweeney Todd. It’s consistently funny, has a lot of heart, awesome effects and visuals, and an incredible cast.

    A few of my own issues include the fact I thought there was simply too much going on at once, therefore not giving enough time to certain things I would have liked to have seen more of (namely Monica Bellucci), an unnecessary and uncomfortable amount of Jeffrey Jones stuff (I know, you can look at it as just being the character Charles Deetz and not the problematic actor, but it felt very awkward and tone-deaf), and sadly a total omission of my favorite character from the first movie, Otho (even just a name drop would have sufficed). You can tell though that the whole crew put everything into the film, and I can totally see what Burton meant about it rekindling his love for moviemaking. Most importantly, it didn’t feel too much like the first one, but enough to where a satisfying balance was struck. It isn’t perfect, but it sure felt good seeing something that entertaining and magical from one of my own biggest artistic inspirations, Tim Burton, after a very long rough patch.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    @MaxCasino

    I went to see Beetlejuice Beetlejuice myself. You wrote a nice review, and though I have a few issues with it, I thought overall it was a real joy and I had a wonderful time with it. It’s Burton’s best since Sweeney Todd. It’s consistently funny, has a lot of heart, awesome effects and visuals, and an incredible cast.

    A few of my own issues include the fact I thought there was simply too much going on at once, therefore not giving enough time to certain things I would have liked to have seen more of (namely Monica Bellucci), an unnecessary and uncomfortable amount of Jeffrey Jones stuff (I know, you can look at it as just being the character Charles Deetz and not the problematic actor, but it felt very awkward and tone-deaf), and sadly a total omission of my favorite character from the first movie, Otho (even just a name drop would have sufficed). You can tell though that the whole crew put everything into the film, and I can totally see what Burton meant about it rekindling his love for moviemaking. Most importantly, it didn’t feel too much like the first one, but enough to where a satisfying balance was struck. It isn’t perfect, but it sure felt good seeing something that entertaining and magical from one of my own biggest artistic inspirations, Tim Burton, after a very long rough patch.

    Thank you for your comment, @FoxRox it was nice to read your review, too. I can see where you are coming from with a lot going on. As for Charles Deetz, it was an unwinnable situation, either way. Sadly, Jeffrey Jones will always be recognized as a criminal first, and an actor second. They could have avoided using certain scenes that I won't spoil for the others here. Like Spectre, more Monica Bellucci should have been used. She always has a positive screen presence! Willem Dafoe was actually used the right amount. Was it as good as the first one? Arguably no. However, we've also been able to enjoy the first one for 36 years. Tim Burton should stick to smaller movies, if he wants to keep love moviemaking. It does seem to fit him better, honestly. And keep Johnny Depp out of his movies, for the time being. Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood and (controversially) Charlie and the Chocolate Factory are my favorite movies of theirs together. But in CATCC's case, that was mostly because of Sir Christopher Lee. I liked that Beetlejuice had more screen time and added more to the plot, even more than the first. I'm also a bit biased, I'm a big Michael Keaton fan. It also seemed to take some influence from the cartoon, which was great. A lot of us on social media wanted Alyson Court (Lydia's voice actress) to have a surprise appearance, but our petition didn't work. So while I really liked it, I totally understand where you are coming from, @FoxRox some things we could have seen more of. Tim Burton movies are never perfect. But then again, they aren't meant to be.
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    2010......its-bit-stale , 4/6 , not really exciting

    Roy S , Mirren stars
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,056
    THE ROCKETEER (1991)
    Directed by Joe Johnston

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    Timothy Dalton having a ball as the slimy villain, Jennifer Connelly being charming and gorgeous as usual, great steampunk (is it?) atmosphere, superb music and also, with a jetpack and a blimp, with some very Bondian elements present.

    I love this film. One of my favourite unapologetically entertaining Hollywood films. Now I'm not the biggest Marvel / DC kind of fellow, but if I was asked to preserve one single superhero for eternity, I'd choose The Rocketeer.
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    THE ROCKETEER (1991)
    Directed by Joe Johnston

    dc8b8477-e988-4324-ac15-05bb9142dd17_rw_600.jpg?h=b06a3e29ee55478c54ab03600b9c0e1d

    Timothy Dalton having a ball as the slimy villain, Jennifer Connelly being charming and gorgeous as usual, great steampunk (is it?) atmosphere, superb music and also, with a jetpack and a blimp, with some very Bondian elements present.

    I love this film. One of my favourite unapologetically entertaining Hollywood films. Now I'm not the biggest Marvel / DC kind of fellow, but if I was asked to preserve one single superhero for eternity, I'd choose The Rocketeer.

    I remember seeing it in the cinema and having a blast. Only added it to my dvd collection a few years ago! Dalton is having great fun and Jennifer is stunning looking + the always briliant Alan Arkin (" you look like a hood ornament!") . The lead guy is a bit wet, but serviceable, and the action is terrific! ( love the little animated film about flying Nazis too!)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,077
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    THE ROCKETEER (1991)
    Directed by Joe Johnston

    dc8b8477-e988-4324-ac15-05bb9142dd17_rw_600.jpg?h=b06a3e29ee55478c54ab03600b9c0e1d

    Timothy Dalton having a ball as the slimy villain, Jennifer Connelly being charming and gorgeous as usual, great steampunk (is it?) atmosphere, superb music and also, with a jetpack and a blimp, with some very Bondian elements present.

    I love this film. One of my favourite unapologetically entertaining Hollywood films. Now I'm not the biggest Marvel / DC kind of fellow, but if I was asked to preserve one single superhero for eternity, I'd choose The Rocketeer.

    I have heard people dismiss the film but I think it holds up. I'll choose this one over three-quarters of the MCU output!

    Dalton is great. Connelly a gorgeous presence I couldn't help but falling in love with at the time. The film has good effects and a killer score. Always excited to see The Rocketeer.
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    I shall go through the last few films i saw that i remember seeing

    Jaws: its brilliant
    Jaws 2: not only a good sequel but i will argue the worst death of the franchise


    Jaws 3: everyone hates it except me i dont know maybe because i watched it as a kid jaws 3 is a great movie to me

    My cousin vinny: brilliant and funny i love it


    Movies 2024
    1. Jaws
    2. Jaws 2
    3. Jaws 3-d
    4. Casino royale 1954
    5. My cousin vinny
    6. When harry met sally
    7. Bob marley one love


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