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When i mentioned in another thread my believe,that With very slight changes ( i wrote about 3 Lines added, 3 changed and 2 minutes extra filmed to be exact) and a tad easier Approach to the editing, QoS would be an absolute gem in the Series,completly blowing the Fans away, some other member asked,what these changes would be. I kindly obliged and wrote down, what i always found changeworthy when watching QoS.
Sunday the thought crossed my mind, that Since i had already done the work, it might be Fun to create an entire thread dedicated towards, what other members would do to make some specific Bond Movies better.
Again,the emphasis is on rather slight changes or additions, Since one can always create something entirely New (i think we all would agree,that DAF would only Profit from being made COMPLETLY from the scratch), but that exercise would be called the " Dream your Own Bond thread".
Also - no "Improving" just for the sake of it (for example i can't think of anything to improve TSWLM, which does what it wants to do exceedingly well in my mind). No just Little Things,that always boggled your mind when watching some Bond Flics (the Bikini Girl from TLD PTS,which destroys a completly serious scene, is a Prime example)
By the Way , feel Free to criticize my thoughts about QoS and as Long your comments resemble only slightly a civil and/or constructive response, you can be Sure of a civilized and polite answer.
So here i go
Since i happen to enjoy the PTS (which like all the action scenes in QoS is much better on a large tv screen,than in the cinema) a lot i won't ask, how it is possible,that this 20000 € Alfa can keep up so easily with Bonds Car. If i was Mr. Aston or Martin i'd be very annoyed!
1. But Fun aside the First Thing i would change is the Yussef angle. When M mentions,that they found a Lock of his Hair to confirm (!)he is dead (after all it doesn't really makes Sense,that Quantum goes to such lenghts to convince the MI6 Yussef is dead, just to spoil it with such a stupid mistake!), my Bond would have insisted,that Vesper wasn't sentimental and this was all too Easy. Then M ,not believing him something along the "that's it,007.Period!" Routine. That Knowledge would really give Bond some Motivation to ignore Orders and lets the audience follow more emotional attached.
Then i would (against my firm Love of Logic in Storylines) keep the "We're looking over our shoulders" monolog of White Since it Works so well. Of course it makes no Sense,because if they have people everywhere (which apparently they have) they know,that british and American Intelligence have no idea of their existence.
I would skip the Foot Chase right after the horse Race (or even better have them Run in the middle of the Race ). There is Way too much Running around in The Craig Bonds ! Let me add,that the following Hangover Fight to me is a one of a Kind. Wow!
2. Haiti : After killing Slate Bond would Screen the room, just to give the Breaking in a reason and for remembering us he is on a Hunt.
3.Have him questioning Camille after the boat Fight. One could use their Airplane and Cave Dialog for it so i wouldn't have to spare one of my precious 3 Lines.
It just makes no Sense he just leaves her back in the Harbour,when she obviously knows a Lot about the Things going on.
4. Now to Austria. While Bond is listening Quantums Top brass and it comes to the canadians i would have Greene saying something like "I attached Yussef to it. He managed to make contact with a canadian Intelligence Officer,which is already very Fond of him. I don't know how he does it, but the Girls just do anything for him. Even die." Now just picture Craigs Face looking really grim and hateful and imagine how emotionally pushed up the audience now is, thirsting with Bond for Revenge. Remember,emotionally attached is my keyword.
5. When he phones M after the shootout my Bond would make it a Point to say simply "it wasn't me" when he gets accused of having Shot the Special Branch member. (This is the One Thing that doesn't makes sense at all. Writer Strike or not, just about anybody during filming the scene could have asked why this stupid limey does not tell her how it really is?) I would also like my M to believe him and to give him a hint where to get some Money and helph. Something along the Lines :"don't you dare to go Mathis,just because he is near to your Place in ..."
Ever wondered how Bond knew where Mathis lived and why he spent so willingly a bundle of Money for Bond to Dress,Travel and sleep First Class? Much more convincing if he knew that he gets refounded by the MI6 after all is over.
6. At the Party i feel we should See how Things happen to Mathis. All that's needed is that after this "Friend" of him says he wants to Show him something we See him Lead Mathis to a Room and when he enters there are a few thugish looking Soldiers waiting. The Rest our Fantasy would handle quite easily. This Way the Finding of him in the Trunk would not feel that forced. Also Bond and Leiter should have some Short eye contact, so 007 knows he can Talk to at the CIA. This "I asked a Cab driver ..." Line really is overdoing this "how incompetent the CIA is " Buisness!
7. heightened Plot. When Greene tells Medrano about their New Tarif for Water he could add something like this: "We have - one Way or another (imagine a sinister smile on Greenes Face) - obtained two thirds of the water rights in Central and South America. The only ones we don't Own are those in countries not worth being owned. You all can keep your Oil and whatever your countries provide, but you will Pay dearly for the Most elementary desire. Thirst. "
This should have emphasized the Real "Weight" of the Plot for all those who constantly Need the World to be in DANGER to feel thrilled and would also feel much more naturally for an Organisation like Quantum, than simply raising some Tarifs in a third World Country.
8. Questioning Greene for a few seconds,so we know a few more Stories about Yussef, so we can Build up a Little extra hate and also know how Bond Finds him in russia.
Well, that's it. If i have counted right, i should be within my selfimposed limits (at least i hope so). Sure if i was Matt Helm Almighty i would have one or two Things to alter, but ... You know..Rules.
So now it's your Turn, Hope i Kind of inspired some of you
Sunday the thought crossed my mind, that Since i had already done the work, it might be Fun to create an entire thread dedicated towards, what other members would do to make some specific Bond Movies better.
Again,the emphasis is on rather slight changes or additions, Since one can always create something entirely New (i think we all would agree,that DAF would only Profit from being made COMPLETLY from the scratch), but that exercise would be called the " Dream your Own Bond thread".
Also - no "Improving" just for the sake of it (for example i can't think of anything to improve TSWLM, which does what it wants to do exceedingly well in my mind). No just Little Things,that always boggled your mind when watching some Bond Flics (the Bikini Girl from TLD PTS,which destroys a completly serious scene, is a Prime example)
By the Way , feel Free to criticize my thoughts about QoS and as Long your comments resemble only slightly a civil and/or constructive response, you can be Sure of a civilized and polite answer.
So here i go
Since i happen to enjoy the PTS (which like all the action scenes in QoS is much better on a large tv screen,than in the cinema) a lot i won't ask, how it is possible,that this 20000 € Alfa can keep up so easily with Bonds Car. If i was Mr. Aston or Martin i'd be very annoyed!
1. But Fun aside the First Thing i would change is the Yussef angle. When M mentions,that they found a Lock of his Hair to confirm (!)he is dead (after all it doesn't really makes Sense,that Quantum goes to such lenghts to convince the MI6 Yussef is dead, just to spoil it with such a stupid mistake!), my Bond would have insisted,that Vesper wasn't sentimental and this was all too Easy. Then M ,not believing him something along the "that's it,007.Period!" Routine. That Knowledge would really give Bond some Motivation to ignore Orders and lets the audience follow more emotional attached.
Then i would (against my firm Love of Logic in Storylines) keep the "We're looking over our shoulders" monolog of White Since it Works so well. Of course it makes no Sense,because if they have people everywhere (which apparently they have) they know,that british and American Intelligence have no idea of their existence.
I would skip the Foot Chase right after the horse Race (or even better have them Run in the middle of the Race ). There is Way too much Running around in The Craig Bonds ! Let me add,that the following Hangover Fight to me is a one of a Kind. Wow!
2. Haiti : After killing Slate Bond would Screen the room, just to give the Breaking in a reason and for remembering us he is on a Hunt.
3.Have him questioning Camille after the boat Fight. One could use their Airplane and Cave Dialog for it so i wouldn't have to spare one of my precious 3 Lines.
It just makes no Sense he just leaves her back in the Harbour,when she obviously knows a Lot about the Things going on.
4. Now to Austria. While Bond is listening Quantums Top brass and it comes to the canadians i would have Greene saying something like "I attached Yussef to it. He managed to make contact with a canadian Intelligence Officer,which is already very Fond of him. I don't know how he does it, but the Girls just do anything for him. Even die." Now just picture Craigs Face looking really grim and hateful and imagine how emotionally pushed up the audience now is, thirsting with Bond for Revenge. Remember,emotionally attached is my keyword.
5. When he phones M after the shootout my Bond would make it a Point to say simply "it wasn't me" when he gets accused of having Shot the Special Branch member. (This is the One Thing that doesn't makes sense at all. Writer Strike or not, just about anybody during filming the scene could have asked why this stupid limey does not tell her how it really is?) I would also like my M to believe him and to give him a hint where to get some Money and helph. Something along the Lines :"don't you dare to go Mathis,just because he is near to your Place in ..."
Ever wondered how Bond knew where Mathis lived and why he spent so willingly a bundle of Money for Bond to Dress,Travel and sleep First Class? Much more convincing if he knew that he gets refounded by the MI6 after all is over.
6. At the Party i feel we should See how Things happen to Mathis. All that's needed is that after this "Friend" of him says he wants to Show him something we See him Lead Mathis to a Room and when he enters there are a few thugish looking Soldiers waiting. The Rest our Fantasy would handle quite easily. This Way the Finding of him in the Trunk would not feel that forced. Also Bond and Leiter should have some Short eye contact, so 007 knows he can Talk to at the CIA. This "I asked a Cab driver ..." Line really is overdoing this "how incompetent the CIA is " Buisness!
7. heightened Plot. When Greene tells Medrano about their New Tarif for Water he could add something like this: "We have - one Way or another (imagine a sinister smile on Greenes Face) - obtained two thirds of the water rights in Central and South America. The only ones we don't Own are those in countries not worth being owned. You all can keep your Oil and whatever your countries provide, but you will Pay dearly for the Most elementary desire. Thirst. "
This should have emphasized the Real "Weight" of the Plot for all those who constantly Need the World to be in DANGER to feel thrilled and would also feel much more naturally for an Organisation like Quantum, than simply raising some Tarifs in a third World Country.
8. Questioning Greene for a few seconds,so we know a few more Stories about Yussef, so we can Build up a Little extra hate and also know how Bond Finds him in russia.
Well, that's it. If i have counted right, i should be within my selfimposed limits (at least i hope so). Sure if i was Matt Helm Almighty i would have one or two Things to alter, but ... You know..Rules.
So now it's your Turn, Hope i Kind of inspired some of you
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http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/1290/fix-a-bond-film/p1
Not really. All the comments in that thread consist from the likes of "would make that you Name it scene better/more realistic/brutal,replace that Actor with another and so forth". This thread is about specifying WHAT EXACTLY one would do if...
And why exactly can't it fit in the other discussion?
But I'll even give you another thread: http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/391/quantum-of-solace.-lets-make-it-better/p1
By the way, you could start by improving your spelling before anything else, I find it very distracting when I try to read anything you write.
"And why exactly can't it fit in the other discussion?"
That one is about QoS only. Need i really say more?
"By the way, you could start by improving your spelling before anything else, I find it very distracting when I try to read anything you write."
Just don't bother. I find it Hard to believe,that you could add something usefull to this thread (given your appreciation of SFs Script) anyhow.
Yeah, really.
The goal of the thread I linked is to state a Bond film you want to fix, and fix it any way you want to in your post. It can be your favorite, your least favorite, or just a film you have a few issues with here and there. That thread can be made to encompass anything you want to discuss in regards to fixing a Bond film, the same aim you seem to have here.
I am looking deep into the future of this thread...
By the way, a simple google search (yes, that bar over the thread titles) would show you that there are more of those "let's make it better" threads, I just pointed the QoS one because that was the film you were discussing in case you didn't want to follow the thread Brady posted.
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