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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited August 2022 Posts: 4,693
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  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited September 2022 Posts: 16,223
    Finally got around to THE BATMAN. I like the leisure pace of the film. Much more of detective thriller than a cheesy superhero action romp.

    Pattinson's Bruce Wayne reminds me of a 1970s era Joe Dallesandro. Probably the 1970's haircut he sports here. John Turturro is, as usual, a delight, and Jeffrey Wright is a superb Gordon. I think he looks at least 15, maybe even 20 years younger in this film than he did in NO TIME TO DIE.

    Controversial opinion:
    I prefer this incarnation of Batman to THE DARK KNIGHT.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,295
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Finally got around to THE BATMAN. I like the leisure pace of the film. Much more of detective thriller than a cheesy superhero action romp.

    Pattinson's Bruce Wayne reminds me of a 1970s era Joe Dallesandro. Probably the 1970's haircut he sports here. John Turturro is, as usual, a delight, and Jeffrey Wright is a superb Gordon. I think he looks at least 15, maybe even 20 years younger in this film than he did in NO TIME TO DIE.

    Controversial opinion:
    I prefer this incarnation of Batman to THE DARK KNIGHT.

    Glad you enjoyed it! So far it’s tied with Batman Returns for being my favorite of the live action Bat-Flicks. You’d also be surprised at the amount of audiences who prefer Pattinson to Bale, I’m certainly one of them!
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    As am I!
    Was sceptical of his casting, but I did enjoy his performance!
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,300
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Finally got around to THE BATMAN. I like the leisure pace of the film. Much more of detective thriller than a cheesy superhero action romp.

    Pattinson's Bruce Wayne reminds me of a 1970s era Joe Dallesandro. Probably the 1970's haircut he sports here. John Turturro is, as usual, a delight, and Jeffrey Wright is a superb Gordon. I think he looks at least 15, maybe even 20 years younger in this film than he did in NO TIME TO DIE.

    Controversial opinion:
    I prefer this incarnation of Batman to THE DARK KNIGHT.

    Weirdly, that's an uncommon opinion. Personally, while I liked the first two films in Nolan's Batman trilogy, I never warmed to Christian Bale as Wayne/Batman. I think Pattinson's take on the role is much more interesting.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    Honestly the Batman is my favorite Batman film. I know many would prefer Bale but there is something so comic booky and yet gritty about Patterson’s performance
  • SomethingThatAteHimSomethingThatAteHim
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    I think I still might ultimately prefer the dark knight (I’d have to revisit it to be sure) just because of how propulsive and gripping it is, but many of the individual elements of The Batman are much more to my taste. I love the look of the film, the tone is spot on, the amount of visual storytelling for a blockbuster is very refreshing, and Pattinson’s arrested-development take on Batman is easily the most interesting put to film. Certainly more what I’m looking for in a “Batman” movie.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited September 2022 Posts: 4,300
    I will give it to The Batman, it's an expertly made film. There's a lot to be said about the cinematography and visual storytelling, but I think the sound design is amazing too and is unfortunately often overlooked in most films anyway. The way the sound of the rain changes with the mood of each scene, the sounds of Gotham during Batman's monologue, the musical cues/the way they change for Batman and Riddler... even the fact that you can hear the creaking of leather on his suit when Batman moves really immerses you in the film in that sort of impressionistic way.

    For me, this sort of stuff makes The Batman stand out from Nolan's films (I know he's a well regarded filmmaker, but these aspects of his films - especially his sound design - don't immerse me in his films the same way, and in fact often takes me out of his movies). It's a more evocative film, and the fact that it's fundamentally a rather personal film about Batman makes it work. Mask of The Phantasm will always be my favourite Batman film but The Batman does a cracking job.
  • SomethingThatAteHimSomethingThatAteHim
    edited September 2022 Posts: 533
    Yeah the sound design and music are both great. Proper themes for each character, subjective sound design to go with the point of view oriented cinematography, etc. It’s a very meticulously crafted movie in a way that Nolan can sometimes be a bit sloppy with.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited September 2022 Posts: 4,300
    SomethingThatAteHim wrote: »
    Yeah the sound design and music are both great. Proper themes for each character, subjective sound design to go with the point of view oriented cinematography, etc. It’s a very meticulously crafted movie in a way that Nolan can sometimes be a bit sloppy with.

    Yeah, Nolan has a tendency to let his ideas run away with him, both stylistically and script wise. Even TDK is actually a bit weird when you think about it. I always assumed the whole point of that movie (and I guess the trilogy) was that despite Gotham's tendency towards corruption and crime, the people would essentially come together and do the right thing when needed (this is what I guess the scene with the bombs on the boats was going for). That's all fine, but I found it strange that Batman's decision to take the blame for Dent's crimes was depicted in the way it was. He essentially decided it's better to lie and pit himself as some sort of surrogate enemy (a very questionable idea anyway) because he doesn't think the city will be able to handle Dent's downfall... I mean, it's a weird thing for a character so invested in Gotham's inner humanity to do, and it's not even as though this is questioned in the next film (the city actually seems to have less crime at the beginning of TDKR, and Batman is only needed when Bane shows up).

    I prefer what The Batman was going for in that sense.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,601
    I saw The Batman on a plane a few weeks back. It certainly filled around three hours so that was something. I couldn't actually claim to have enjoyed it though, although it wasn't actually bad. It was just sort of... there, rolling along at the same pitch, the same three colours on the screen, every set looking the same, every costume being some variation of black or grey; with an utterly uninteresting plot about someone paying someone else off which failed to ever ignite. It was fine at what it was trying to do, but I don't want it again.
    There must be an adventure film in Batman somewhere, where he gets to do cool things and sock baddies.
  • SomethingThatAteHimSomethingThatAteHim
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    It’s not a very airplane friendly movie, I’ll grant you that
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2022 Posts: 16,601
    No it was great for aeroplanes; I had thirteen hours or so to fill, and it's extremely overlong so it filled up a fair chunk of it.
  • SomethingThatAteHimSomethingThatAteHim
    Posts: 533
    I suppose if you want to just fill up time a 3 hour movie is ideal. But I can see why you would think the visuals are uninteresting if you watched it on like an iPad or, gasp, one of those shitty seat-back screens — I don’t think I’ve seen a greater visual disparity between standard HD and 4k HDR in a movie than The Batman.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2022 Posts: 16,601
    Maybe, it's not like I haven't seen trailers etc. for it in the cinema and on my screen, and I didn't feel like it was looking like a different film. I also don't think the visuals would have helped the story to be much more interesting.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited September 2022 Posts: 41,011
    Brendan Gleeson has joined the cast of Joker: Folie à Deux’:

    https://deadline.com/2022/09/joker-folie-a-deux-brendan-gleeson-1235105442/
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited September 2022 Posts: 7,593
    I'm pretty excited for this film, if only because I'm curious to see what they do, and every new piece of information about it seems more intriguing than the last. A musical? With Gaga as Harley Quinn? Definitely has my attention.

    My main gripe with the first one is that I wish they had just not used any of the Waynes at all. It was great when it was completely independent of that stuff, and it was muddied when they introduced tiny Bruce, and making some of the plot revolve around Thomas.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I'm pretty excited for this film, if only because I'm curious to see what they do, and every new piece of information about it seems more intriguing than the last. A musical? With Gaga as Harley Quinn? Definitely has my attention.

    My main gripe with the first one is that I wish they had just not used any of the Waynes at all. It was great when it was completely independent of that stuff, and it was muddied when they introduced tiny Bruce, and making some of the plot revolve around Thomas.

    It could be a complete train wreck just as easily as it might be a masterpiece. I'm excited to see what they can accomplish with something so unique, and the cast amassed so far is very impressive. I hope it rocks.
  • RevelatorRevelator
    Posts: 2,921
    mtm wrote: »
    There must be an adventure film in Batman somewhere, where he gets to do cool things and sock baddies.

    The '66 Batman film answers to that description, along with the first season of the TV show. They look great on Blu-ray too.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,601
    Yeah I've seen that, I was hoping for a new one at some point.

    I actually thought if there's one thing that Corridor Crew video where they inserted Adam West into the The Batman trailer did show, it's that the 60s Batmobile still looks badass and they should just bring that back and not worry about explaining it, like Bond did with the DB5.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited September 2022 Posts: 7,593
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I've seen that, I was hoping for a new one at some point.

    I actually thought if there's one thing that Corridor Crew video where they inserted Adam West into the The Batman trailer did show, it's that the 60s Batmobile still looks badass and they should just bring that back and not worry about explaining it, like Bond did with the DB5.

    Agreed. 89 is still the best Batmobile for me though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2022 Posts: 16,601
    Agreed, I'm not sure that's been improved on yet.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    Posts: 1,714
    mtm wrote: »
    I saw The Batman on a plane a few weeks back. It certainly filled around three hours so that was something. I couldn't actually claim to have enjoyed it though, although it wasn't actually bad. It was just sort of... there, rolling along at the same pitch, the same three colours on the screen, every set looking the same, every costume being some variation of black or grey; with an utterly uninteresting plot about someone paying someone else off which failed to ever ignite. It was fine at what it was trying to do, but I don't want it again.
    There must be an adventure film in Batman somewhere, where he gets to do cool things and sock baddies.

    I watched someone watch it on a plane a couple weeks ago, and it did look rather monotonous.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,593
    I remember watching Baby Driver the worst way possible (for that particular film especially); without sound, as someone beside me on a plane was watching it.
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,650
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I remember watching Baby Driver the worst way possible (for that particular film especially); without sound, as someone beside me on a plane was watching it.

    Considering an aspect of the driver, watching it without hearing it may have been quite appropriate. Might it have helped you appreciate the film more from the Baby Driver's perspective ?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited September 2022 Posts: 4,693
    Thirty years ago today, a truly inspirational classic began airing on TV. Happy birthday to Batman The Animated Series, a classic that still holds up.

  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,300
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Thirty years ago today, a truly inspirational classic began airing on TV. Happy birthday to Batman The Animated Series, a classic that still holds up.


    One of the best animated series ever made in my opinion. The artwork, the writing, voice acting - all of it's superb. As I've said before I don't think any of the live action films ever got close to how good Mask of The Phantasm was.

    I mean, that show was a good few years old when I watched it as a kid and I know people even younger than me who grew up watching it.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited September 2022 Posts: 8,231
    When I came out of The Batman I found it gripping and enthralling, and thought it might just be the best Batman film yet. It was a great IMAX experience.

    Since then, I've rewatched both Burton films and the first two Nolan films and I don't think it's better than any of them (as good as it is).
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,295
    It’s so interesting looking back on 30 years of BTAS. Without a doubt, it’s perhaps the greatest incarnation of the Batman mythology on any screen, everything about the show just informs how I view Batman and his world. The design of Gotham is practically unmatched by any of the other interpretations, the voice acting is flawless, and the decision to keep it rooted in a Late 30’s/Early 40’s styled era is perhaps the biggest reason why the show ages like fine wine. Having said that, a lot of what makes BTAS great stems from the Burton films, as well as that 70’s/80’s era of Batman comics. Here’s to hoping Caped Crusader will see the light of day!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,693
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    It’s so interesting looking back on 30 years of BTAS. Without a doubt, it’s perhaps the greatest incarnation of the Batman mythology on any screen, everything about the show just informs how I view Batman and his world. The design of Gotham is practically unmatched by any of the other interpretations, the voice acting is flawless, and the decision to keep it rooted in a Late 30’s/Early 40’s styled era is perhaps the biggest reason why the show ages like fine wine. Having said that, a lot of what makes BTAS great stems from the Burton films, as well as that 70’s/80’s era of Batman comics. Here’s to hoping Caped Crusader will see the light of day!

    100% agreed.
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