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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Batman Caped Crusader all 10 episodes have dropped on PRIME, I will reserve judgement until I have seen all of season 1, the first episode was a bit jarring, it is no BTAS that's for sure.

    Episode 2 is much better.

    I like what I've seen so far, though I must admit that I wasn't expecting another TAS. That bar is just too high for nostalgic fans such as ourselves. ;-)

    I can't quite put my finger on it though Caped Crusader is missing something, I actually connected quicker with Beware The Batman, Beware The Batman was very underrated IMO and deserved more seasons.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Batman Caped Crusader all 10 episodes have dropped on PRIME, I will reserve judgement until I have seen all of season 1, the first episode was a bit jarring, it is no BTAS that's for sure.

    Episode 2 is much better.

    I like what I've seen so far, though I must admit that I wasn't expecting another TAS. That bar is just too high for nostalgic fans such as ourselves. ;-)

    I can't quite put my finger on it though Caped Crusader is missing something, I actually connected quicker with Beware The Batman, Beware The Batman was very underrated IMO and deserved more seasons.

    What made BTB work for me was its radically different approach. Full CGI, a whole slew of previously unused characters from the comics (e.g. Prof. Pyg, Humpty Dumpty, Anarky, ...), a cool theme song, an interesting Alfred, and so on. I was never tempted to compare that series to something else. I wish they'd given us a few more seasons of BTB to be frank. The comics were fun too, but only one miniseries was released.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
    edited August 3 Posts: 65
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Rumor is the cast of the batman part 2 will be announced next Saturday

    Rumor??? Can I hold you to it???
    Batman Caped Crusader all 10 episodes have dropped on PRIME, I will reserve judgement until I have seen all of season 1, the first episode was a bit jarring, it is no BTAS that's for sure.

    Episode 2 is much better.

    Yes! I am not sure why I thought August 10th. I guess I just assumed it coincided with getting my teaching materials together and let out a sigh...

    Mod edit: please avoid double posts by using the edit button instead. Thanks.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited August 3 Posts: 25,106
    Batman Caped Crusader episode 3 is the best so far, starting to see a lot of potential in the show now we are getting more characterization. They have made an interesting choice with how Bruce talks to Alfred,
    Bruce's tone of voice is as Batman there is a brick wall between Alfred and Bruce.
    Cat Woman's costume does remind me of Batgirl's 66s outfit.

    Batman Caped Crusader episode 4 Excellent writing, the show got quite dark with some superb animation.

    Batman Caped Crusader after completing the first season I give it a 8 out of 10, the show has solid writing which is clearly a well executed slow burn with promise of greatness to come. The character and world building makes this worth while, I could have easily binged another ten episodes because I am invested in the characters. The ending is incredibly powerful,, I got quite emotional. I will definitely buy this on Bluray.

    That lost shot
    Evil incarnate, the Joker in this show is going to be scary.

    Looking forward to watching this season again though the first episode is a bad way to start, thankfully it gets so much better, will my opinion change on episode 1?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Looking forward to watching this season again though the first episode is a bad way to start, thankfully it gets so much better, will my opinion change on episode 1?

    First episodes are always shaky, in terms of quality.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I agree with @Fire_and_Ice_Returns' assessment. It's not TAS, but the series has potential. It has me excited for more. I like the animation too.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited August 3 Posts: 25,106
    The animation is superb and I did get emotionally invested in the characters, there were some good pay offs.
    Bruce/Batman and Alfred/Pennyworthy is very good and subtly realized.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Looking forward to watching this season again though the first episode is a bad way to start, thankfully it gets so much better, will my opinion change on episode 1?

    First episodes are always shaky, in terms of quality.

    In the old days that was true as the first episode was the pilot, today shows don't do pilots for the majority.

    The first episode was the worst though they can heavily rely on the IP.

    Mod edit: triple post merged into one. Please use the edit button, as requested before.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    My apologies it was not my intention, it has happened a few times recently.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    What I love is how this series shows familiar characters in slightly different roles. Except
    Penguin, who I'm not sure I'm vibing with

    most of these experiments pay off well, especially
    Harley, whose more serious side intrigues me.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited August 3 Posts: 25,106
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    What I love is how this series shows familiar characters in slightly different roles. Except
    Penguin, who I'm not sure I'm vibing with

    most of these experiments pay off well, especially
    Harley, whose more serious side intrigues me.

    What impressed me was how the slow build gave weight to character motivations, especially with the character you mentioned, it was earned.

    I do miss the days of 20 plus episodes we got in the 90's per season, I did not want BCC to end.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I just got the score to The Caped Crusader by Frederik Wiedmann. It's so really good. He really channels Shirley Walker in it. One of the best Batman scores in my opinion. There's ample Batman darkness and mystery in it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I just got the score to The Caped Crusader by Frederik Wiedmann. It's so really good. He really channels Shirley Walker in it. One of the best Batman scores in my opinion. There's ample Batman darkness and mystery in it.

    And yet, I wonder why Christopher Drake wasn't invited to do it. His couple of Bond scores were almost perfect in my opinion.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Just been watching the new cartoon on Prime; seems good fun. I wish the character animation was a bit more sophisticated though- characters keep one expression and it often doesn't match the voice performance very well. The stories seem fun so far and I like the period setting, although the music is pretty poor. Why do these lower level composers always put so many cymbal clashes into their stuff.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    Just been watching the new cartoon on Prime; seems good fun. I wish the character animation was a bit more sophisticated though- characters keep one expression and it often doesn't match the voice performance very well. The stories seem fun so far and I like the period setting, although the music is pretty poor. Why do these lower level composers always put so many cymbal clashes into their stuff.

    Wiedmann is not that lower level. He composed the scores for a ton of DC animated material, and some of his music is really powerful. He's part of why Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox moves me to tears. But the cymbal clashes annoy me too. I guess these musicians sometimes aren't given the tools to produce really good music.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 6 Posts: 2,016
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I just got the score to The Caped Crusader by Frederik Wiedmann. It's so really good. He really channels Shirley Walker in it. One of the best Batman scores in my opinion. There's ample Batman darkness and mystery in it.

    And yet, I wonder why Christopher Drake wasn't invited to do it. His couple of Bond scores were almost perfect in my opinion.

    Yeah. I'm a hugh fan of Drake. His the reason Zimmer hasn't been called to score a Batman/DC cartoon. Drake is that good.
    mtm wrote: »
    Just been watching the new cartoon on Prime; seems good fun. I wish the character animation was a bit more sophisticated though- characters keep one expression and it often doesn't match the voice performance very well. The stories seem fun so far and I like the period setting, although the music is pretty poor. Why do these lower level composers always put so many cymbal clashes into their stuff.

    Yeah. Agreed. The animation isn't that stellar. I'm surprised you didn't like Wiedmann's score, though. But yeah, it's cool to know what someone likes and doesn't.

    Mod edit: double post merged into one.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I've been complaining about DC (or American) animation (in general) for years.

    There's this:
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    and there's this:
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    DC Animation has gotten lazy. Why? Cutting time, money, people? In any case, I have stayed away from the recent JLA movies simply because the animation comes off as amateur hour.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Oh, sorry about the double post.
    Yeah @DarthDimi the animation needs looking into.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Just been watching the new cartoon on Prime; seems good fun. I wish the character animation was a bit more sophisticated though- characters keep one expression and it often doesn't match the voice performance very well. The stories seem fun so far and I like the period setting, although the music is pretty poor. Why do these lower level composers always put so many cymbal clashes into their stuff.

    Yes, I also found the music unmemorable and the animation rather stiff. The show feels a bit sedate and constrained, despite the attractiveness of the character designs and the period furnishings and props. It doesn't have the excitement or animation quality of the classic DC cartoons, probably because of lowered budgets, though I also notice there aren't many DCAU veterans on the staff, aside from the producers. But since we're only 10 episodes in, there's the possibility of some improvement. I'd say it's good show but so far not essential viewing for Bat-fans.
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    Its ok i saw all ten episodes and caped crusader is ok not great not bad just ok
  • Having watched all episodes of Caped Crusader, I have to say that it’s a pretty decent show on its own merits. But when compared to BTAS - there is a lot that Caped Crusader falls short of imo, particularly when it comes to Harvey Dent’s characterization.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
    edited August 9 Posts: 65
    Having watched all episodes of Caped Crusader, I have to say that it’s a pretty decent show on its own merits. But when compared to BTAS - there is a lot that Caped Crusader falls short of imo, particularly when it comes to Harvey Dent’s characterization.

    I agree and just finished all last night. It's good but, not quite as magically as TAS. I'm trying to put my finger on it...
  • Having watched all episodes of Caped Crusader, I have to say that it’s a pretty decent show on its own merits. But when compared to BTAS - there is a lot that Caped Crusader falls short of imo, particularly when it comes to Harvey Dent’s characterization.

    I agree and just finished all last night. It's good but, not quite as magically as TAS. I'm trying to put my finger on it...

    I think it could be down to the lack of Paul Dini and Alan Burnett. I think that both men and the writing they’ve done were a critical component behind the success of BTAS. Caped Crusader is missing that quality writing imo, hopefully a second season fixes this.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Yeah, the show isn't Under The Red Hood or Mask Of The Phantasm, etc. But it's ok...even if the animation doesn't look that great. Plus, I think Frederick Wiedmann purposely made the score in the vein of Shirley Walker, so it does remind me of her style.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited August 12 Posts: 5,426
    I watched the first two episodes and, by the middle of the second episode I was on my phone and glancing up to see what was going on. I first thought the villain of the second episode was
    Scarecrow but soon realized that there was no fear toxin. Clayface was a welcome surprise. I don't like Harvey Dent which is weird because his villain turn was tragic in other Batman shows, not sure how this will play in this show.

    Like the lackluster theme song for this show I find the whole thing lacking energy and pace. Based on the two episodes I watched I would give it a 2 out of 5.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    thedove wrote: »
    I watched the first two episodes and, by the middle of the second episode I was on my phone and glancing up to see what was going on. I first thought the villain of the second episode was
    Scarecrow but soon realized that there was no fear toxin. Clayface was a welcome surprise. I don't like Harvey Dent which is weird because his villain turn was tragic in other Batman shows, not sure how this will play in this show.

    Like the lackluster theme song for this show I find the whole thing lacking energy and pace. Based on the two episodes I watched I would give it a 2 out of 5.

    Interesting, @thedove. The second episode may be my favourite of the season.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    MaxCasino wrote: »

    Yes. I felt and still fell the pain.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I finished the new cartoon and really enjoyed it. Not the best thing ever but it had a bit of bite here and there and I thought it worked well. It took me way too long to get who the psychiatrist was too(!). And even a Bond villain in the cast.
    One thing is that I wouldn't mind if they changed Batman's look for the second series. He generally looks good, but maybe tone down the light grey- I could never quite get over the feeling that he looked a bit silly standing there in his tights when he's supposed to be imposing.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »

    Yes. I felt and still fell the pain.

    “I didn’t care one way or another,” Keaton told GQ. “Big, fun, nice check.”

    Haha, gotta love Keaton.

    If it's any consolation, it's very likely the film wasn't particularly good anyway.
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