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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://batman-news.com/2024/09/16/batman-becomes-the-first-superhero-to-receive-hollywood-star/

    I hope Bob Kane isn't credited.

    I hope Finger is.
    mtm wrote: »
    What's the problem with Kane?

    Bob Kane stole credit not just from Bill Finger, but from a lot of other people, Jerry Robinson and Dick Sprang were big on building Batman's supporting cast. Bob Kane would have killed the Joker off after his first appearance. The biggest thing Bob Kane did for Batman was to combine the words "Bat" and "Man." Bill Finger died in poverty, when he shouldn't have. Bob Kane could have given Bill Finger credit in his lifetime, but didn't. The last Batman thing Bob Kane saw before he died was Batman & Robin. That still wasn't enough karma for Bob, in my mind. So, true Batman fans aren't too fond of Bob Kane.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    What's the problem with Kane?

    I don't really have a personal problem with Kane myself, but his refusal to acknowledge the contributions others had made to the creation of Batman (and the Batman universe) has made quite a few Batman fans a bit angry with him. Kane spent his entire life claiming sole credit, while Bill Finger probably did more to bring us the Batman we know and love than Kane. The 2017 documentary Batman & Bill and Marc Tyler Nobleman's book on the subject (a graphic novel) discuss all of this.

    In truth, Finger had agreed not to take much credit, but he died a relatively poor man while Kane was doing rather well. If Kane had been fair, he'd have let Finger share a little more in the profit.

    I guess many Batman fans, like their favourite character, seek justice. Hence why Kane isn't exactly every Batman fan's idol, while Finger seems to be doing a whole lot better in that department. You could say that fans are giving Kane the Finger. ;-)

    Sorry @DarthDimi you posted your post, while I was writing mine!

    As for other superheroes getting their own Hollywood Walk of Fame, I'd support Superman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Captain America for sure!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    Okay thanks, didn't know that. I guess he still should be co-credited though.

    I'm sure he always will. But as @MaxCasino pointed out, Kane's contributions are few and far from what we consider iconic. Others, and indeed not just Finger, built the Batman.

    It wouldn't have been so bad if Kane had been a good sport. A little thank you to all those other blokes from time to time would have done miracles. But his arrogance has led to him being posthumously put to shame. I wish it hadn't come to this.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Okay thanks, didn't know that. I guess he still should be co-credited though.

    I'm sure he always will. But as @MaxCasino pointed out, Kane's contributions are few and far from what we consider iconic. Others, and indeed not just Finger, built the Batman.

    It wouldn't have been so bad if Kane had been a good sport. A little thank you to all those other blokes from time to time would have done miracles. But his arrogance has led to him being posthumously put to shame. I wish it hadn't come to this.

    I wish that Bob Kane would have given Bill Finger, Jerry Robinson and Dick Sprang credit with him. They deserved it. Unfortunately, he got a solo credit, Bill Finger died in poverty, and we had to put up with Kane's annoying wife in Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (Gossip Gerty, in poor acting and adding nothing to their stories).

    Here's some positive news:

    https://www.cbr.com/matt-reeves-the-batman-part-ii-finished/

    Casting should be announced soon!

    Also, Happy Early Batman Day! Something I've noticed recently is how much of Batman's other characters (both allies and villains) from his world have gotten their own fair share of media in the last 20 years. I don't think this would have happened if Batman Begins hadn't been a success. I'm thankful for how much the world of Batman has been opened, in all forms of media. I'm thankful to get to share my love of the Batman mythology with you all as much as the James Bond (and various other fictional mythologies) mythology. Thank you, and have a happy Batman Day!
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