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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    They should ve gone with this instead

    How about something like this:
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Too bad they didn t put that in the film.
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    I see a big difference between Bruce using his public persona as a mask and him just being a nutter: one is a useful theater tool, another a cracked psyche. The Burton films really strive to make him seem eccentric and wacky, but I never see Bruce that way.

    We all see Batman our own way. Burton's Bruce doesn't strike me as a "nutter." He's awkward, reclusive, and distracted in everyday life because he only feels truly alive when he's behind the cape and cowl. More neurotic than psychotic then. And there is some psychological plausibility to that: Walt Disney was not a terribly interesting man to talk to until you mentioned something having to do with his company's interests; then he suddenly became interesting and interested.

    In any case, as in the comics, Bruce is not the true manifestation of the man. The film doesn't bother extending this into having Bruce Wayne as a carefully acted part, which might be less realistic than in the comics, but Burton's gothic Gotham is presumably full of weird old money. And really clever criminals could easily guess the man who seems least likely to be Batman would be him anyway. It doesn't bear to get too realistic about Batman anyway; in the real world his secret identity wouldn't last long. Even Nolan, in TDKR, created a situation where it would have been easy to guess it.
    Alfred doesn't help, giving every woman who walks into the manor a free pass to the batcave.

    To be fair, this is something Batman Returns made fun of. And one should also keep in mind that--like Licence to Kill--the script of Batman was never actually finished, due to the writers' strike.
    the on-edge killer Batman has always been the main reason I don't enjoy the films as I used to, as I really don't need the image of Batman smiling after shoving a bomb in a guy's pants and kicking him away to explode....Affleck Batman has the common decency to brood after he kills

    I don't really need to see Batman brood after giving a grotesque, murderous, carnie scumbag a taste of his own medicine. But if he wants to give a sort of grimace/smile after seeing his opponent hoist by his own petard, I'm not bothered. Burton's Batman does not go very far out of his way to kill, but he doesn't regard those who have no regard for human life as worthy of it. Fine with me--Batman, in any incarnation, is there to protect the innocent and the at-risk.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Burton did have the best looking Gotham.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I quite liked the Burton films although they aren't my favourites. They are quirky and eccentric to my eyes. I personally prefer Batman Returns to Batman. I find it more intimate and character driven, and I like the rooftop tete-a-tete between Bat & Penguin ("things change"). Love Pfieffer as Catwoman/Kyle as well (she still creeps me out to this day).

    I prefer Burton's Batman and Keaton's interpretation to what we have now.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Samantha Robinson and Jane Levy are front runners for batgirl!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I wonder what age they're going for with Batgirl here? If Bruce is much older than usual Barbara would have to be too, you'd think?

    Jane Levy would be good for a young Batgirl, but I think they may want to go older. I know she is often listed in castings for Mary Jane.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Yeah Jane and Sam are both 26-27..
    From my understanding Batman V Superman takes place ten years after Robins death so both actresses would’ve been 16-17 when “robin” died.. So that actually works pretty well doesn’t it? I know Robin and batgirl are supposed to be young.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Yeah Jane and Sam are both 26-27..
    From my understanding Batman V Superman takes place ten years after Robins death so both actresses would’ve been 16-17 when “robin” died.. So that actually works pretty well doesn’t it? I know Robin and batgirl are supposed to be young.

    I didn't know they were that old! Jane in particular looks really young. I guess she has that perpetual youth thing of Emma Stone, who can play teens despite being much older.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Yeah Jane and Sam are both 26-27..
    From my understanding Batman V Superman takes place ten years after Robins death so both actresses would’ve been 16-17 when “robin” died.. So that actually works pretty well doesn’t it? I know Robin and batgirl are supposed to be young.

    I didn't know they were that old! Jane in particular looks really young. I guess she has that perpetual youth thing of Emma Stone, who can play teens despite being much older.

    Yeah I was kinda shocked.
    Although I just watched the love witch yesterday, Sam is the main actress and practically topless in a majority of the movie..
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    This looks great
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Proud owner of the comic; looking very much forward to this adaptation.
    Anyone interested in more Elseworlds based on classic literature, read:

    Batman: The Doom That Came to Gotham
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2017 Posts: 25,413
    I have never read Gotham by Gaslight so going in blind regarding the plot, the period and concept is appealing.

  • Risico007Risico007
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    First dc animated movie I really wanted in a long time
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Anyone interested in more Elseworlds based on classic literature, read:

    Batman: The Doom That Came to Gotham

    And for an Elseworlds slightly connected to a classic, there's the Vampire Batman trilogy (Red Rain, Bloodstorm, Crimson Mist), which has been collected under various titles (Batman: Vampire or Elseworlds: Batman Vol. 2). Chief draw is the gothic horror art of Kelley Jones:

    UicSkrp.jpg

  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    I’m hearing good things about JL!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    I’m hearing good things about JL!

    I have read several twitter reactions everyone who has commented appear to have similar opinions.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Batuman!
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Interesting. They're about six years late to the Anime Batman party (see below), but still, looks very much worth checking out. Just hope they aren't trying too hard with it. There was definitely a gorilla in there.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    That's one of the craziest things I've seen with Batman in it, but looks interesting. I'm certainly impressed with the style, which is refreshing from the same old same old animation that WB put out year after year. I'd love to see them seek out more third party creators to make films to diversify their output.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I think it looks superb, the Joker is potent in that characterisation
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Is this based off of any anime comic that I don't know about? I like that WB sought out such a different film to produce.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    Is this based off of any anime comic that I don't know about? I like that WB sought out such a different film to produce.

    It's a new Anime interpretation, I think they do Joker well in the combat scene
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Japanese Batman manga have been written and published over there. According to certain Batman "scolars", they are exactly what you'd imagine: quite different from the Batman comics we're used to. :)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited December 2017 Posts: 28,694
    On one hand it's a crazy idea, but on the other it's kind of fitting. The code of the samurai matches well with Batman's and the overall "knight" imagery and protector role that samurai served again make sense for a Batman adaptation.

    The final presentation is a bit wackier than I imagined it being, but I'm interested to see what it's about. WB are already giving us BTAS remastered so I want for literally nothing else and am content with whatever extras we're receiving in the coming years, a rumored project being an animation of The Long Halloween.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Japanese Batman manga have been written and published over there. According to certain Batman "scolars", they are exactly what you'd imagine: quite different from the Batman comics we're used to. :)

    My Son saw the clip I showed him, and said that anime cannot be all CGI... I thought it looked okay though...
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Japanese Batman manga have been written and published over there. According to certain Batman "scolars", they are exactly what you'd imagine: quite different from the Batman comics we're used to. :)

    All three volumes of the 1960s Batmanga were recently translated and published--they can be easily found on Amazon by searching for "Batman: The Jiro Kuwata Batmanga." The art style feels like an inspired fusion of Osamu Tezuka and Sheldon Moldoff. The stories are all based on Silver-Age Batman comics (many of which have never been reprinted). Kuwata's adaptations are mostly faithful but he expands the original tales from 8 to 20 or 30 pages, which allows breathing room, so his versions tend to have more atmosphere, and slightly more violence, than the originals. The translations are delightfully deadpan, which complement the straight-faced camp already present in the material. All together, the Batmanga are more fun than most modern Batman comics and definitely worth one's time.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Thank you, @Revelator.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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