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IMO, MOS is an awesome film. The longer cut of BVS is an awesome film too IMO. The Snyder Cut of JL is an awesome film IMO. WW may very well be the best film in the Snyderverse. SS could have been a great movie if the suits hadn't gotten involved. The recent SS, Birds Of Prey, Shazam, ... all work very well in my book. In fact, I've had a good time so far with all of these films since MOS, with the exception of the first SS and WW1984. Joker is something else entirely, but a bloody great film. The Batman is the best DC film I've seen since 2008.
And Pattison does deliver and brings his own fans to the cinema as well, which turns the folks at DC en WB into smart people.
I saw MoS blind in theaters that summer and loved it. I need to revisit that one sometime soon, see how it holds up.
It holds up very well, IMO. I love what they have done with the Superman character. He is portrayed as an angsty tween who turns into a godlike saviour. There's a key moment in the film when he funnels all his strength while in a beam of light bright as the Sun, accompanied by Zimmer's music reaching full "apotheosis". I have tears in my eyes every time I see this.
I furthermore find Cavill a competent Superman. Then again, I got over Reeve's passing long before seeing this film. There were people in my theatre who shouted that Reeve should have played Superman one more time. Uhm... I don't think they were keeping track of things... So yeah, people who cling to the notion that there will never be another Superman if Reeve's isn't coming back, shouldn't watch this film. The rest of us who have moved on and are willing to accept another Superman should judge Cavill as Superman, not as Reeve's replacement. And Cavill is committed! The behind-the-scenes material makes it clear that this guy worked hard, very hard, in fact, much harder (physically speaking) than Robert Pattinson for The Batman. I think he looks the part, I think he acts well. I think he's a great Superman.
And then there's the "Superman doesn't kill" nonsense. He doesn't beat up baddies until they bleed to death, sure. But with Zod destroying entire cities, Supes can keep fighting, or he can think outside the box. There's "killing" and then there's "killing". He's none too pleased about it, but taking out Zod was a necessary sacrifice to save an innocent family. And this little detail has been driving some people insane over the years because "Superman doesn't kill!". No, Superman conveniently hadn't had to kill before. But he's facing a difficult dilemma now, and making a choice, even if there isn't a good choice, is part of his coming-of-age ritual. And since they built on that twist in BVS, it actually makes a lot of sense to go there, especially in times like these. Also, Supes doesn't kill humans perhaps. Well, Zod isn't human. But I digress. Maybe the time has come to consider the possibility that Superman must make difficult decisions sometimes. After all, Batman doesn't kill either, but either through action or inaction did he allow or cause Joker ('89), Penguin ('92), Two-Face ('95) and a truck driver ('12) to die. Let's not go there. The "X doesn't kill" rule doesn't mean that X can't kill under very specific circumstances.
I applaud Snyder for taking a couple of things a few steps further. People were so angry when Superman Returns channelled the Donner movies too much. Yet when MOS tried something else, people were angry too. I guess WB simply shouldn't make any more Superman films then since whatever they do, it's never going to be good enough. People will always be angry that the clocks didn't stop ticking in 1978.
Not me, though. See, I love the '78 film. I'm okay with the Donner Cut of S2. But S3 and S4 are insultingly bad, moronic films, lost in confusion. MOS is to them what The Dark Knight is to B4Ever and B&R, at least in my opinion. I really dig the look of MOS, the story, the characters and the cast, the action, the music, the whole thing! Adams' Lois is an upgrade from Kidder's. Kidder was cute and all in 1978, and she was a good Lois for the '70s. But in 2013... no, we don't go for that type anymore. As with Bond, things evolve. They change. It's that, or you can choose the more "timeless" approach like The Batman, although that film too toys with tech from now, not from yesterday. I'm a fan of MOS. The film worked for me. And I won't apologise for it.
The MCU has a more cohesive universe than DC,but they are very kiddy friendly.MCU would never be able to make more adult content like Joker, and the uncut BVS.
If only the suits at DC would have let Snyder do his thing,we would have had a second JL by now and Afflecks solo Batman movie as well as proper MOS sequels ( Cavill is easily the best Superman since Reeve and WB have totally wasted him ).
A missed opportunity, but we still got some of the best from him.
for me the moent that reminded me about No time to die
More recently, if it were for Voice Acting, for an animated Batman or Lego Batman. In person ? In Which year ? Big difference in Clint from 1966 to 1972 to more recently...not his fault, it's the way it goes, but cannot tell from your musing which year or decade you might have in mind.
And as The Batman, he's a growling monster of the night. He's bulkier and slower, but he has the blunt force of an aged lion and is so calloused (physically and emotionally), he's able to absorb more and more pain....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/shadowandact.com/amp/the-hughes-brothers-batman-movie-w-clint-eastwood-that-was-never-made-did-you-know
I dont think Clint was a fan of these type of movies! It was reported recently that he talked his son out of accepting a part in Suicide Squad 2!
I can see why IRL the suits would turn this down (sequels! McMeals and McToys!!!!), but I think this would have made an interesting film…
Villains aren't exactly known for holding themselves accountable for their own actions. If they're not blindly evil then to some degree they at least have a warped sense of self righteousness , satisfying their logic to justify their actions.
He never would have done it.Clint stayed away from fantasy and science fiction movies his whole career ( The closest he came was Firefox ).He certainly never would have done a comic book film.
Hopefully Keaton's return will have some of these ideas implemented...
Clooney was not the problem with "Batman and Robin"; he did a fine job. His scenes with an ailing Alfred are some of the best in any Batman film.
The Backman
Here's some dialogue, borrowing from another aging actor and role: "It's not the years, it's the back, man."
You know, that when Darren Aronofsky was about to do the Batman reboot (which then became Nolan's BB), he suggested Clint Eastwood to play Batman. If he was jokning, I don't know, but WB did not react to well about this. Then he suggested Joaquin Phoenix ... or ... Christian Bale to play Batman, but his screenplay was rejected by WB.
I didn t know that. Would have been awesome, although I pictured him in the role much earlier.
Would have been great as well. Aronofsky has done some swell stuff.
First half was near perfect - lost a little bit of interest in the third quarter before the finale.
I think would of been a strong 9 or 10 for me if somehow they could trim 30 mins.
Score was ace, film and direction was superb too - Seven vibes also came to mind.
Only criticism for me (and I say this very lightly) was that I thought the end action sequence could of been a bit more held back from Marvel territory and maybe the flying section kind of felt a tiny out of place with this take on Batman. I didnt like Wayne Manors interior either for some reason.
The batmobile was great and the sound insane!
Will watch again in a few weeks
My second showing is hopefully thursday