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    I'm a little more optimistic about Star Trek: Beyond (2016) after reading it's more similar to old Star Trek. I don't care for the first two reboot films much, so here's hoping I can get into this one.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I'm a little more optimistic about Star Trek: Beyond (2016) after reading it's more similar to old Star Trek. I don't care for the first two reboot films much, so here's hoping I can get into this one.

    Plus dat poster! ;)
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  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Getting some good reviews.....four stars from Empire magazine.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Just in time for the new film, my Star Trek III: The Search for Spock phaser has arrived today! And it rocks!
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Just in time for the new film, my Star Trek III: The Search for Spock phaser has arrived today! And it rocks!
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    *envious*

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    # 4 is locked and loaded. EON take note.

    http://collider.com/star-trek-4-chris-hemsworth/
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Just in time for the new film, my Star Trek III: The Search for Spock phaser has arrived today! And it rocks!
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    *envious*
    Though I'll never be as cool as Uhura. ;)
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Isn t that Michael Jackson?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    That explains why Uhura just started dancing to Thriller... That had always confused me...
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    I am so ;pumped about the new series for next season and I am looking forward to "Beyond" in theaters this weekend...
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I don't know if that's just supposed to be his character in this one, but does Kirk look like he's trying to force every line out of his mouth to anybody but me?
  • edited July 2016 Posts: 2,341
    I always liked the uniforms from ST 2 thru ST 6 but can someone tell me what the different color trims on these represent? I assume that "white" took the place of the yellow/gold from the TOS days but what of the other colors?
    Spock and Kirk has "White"
    Uhura and Chekov "Blue"
    McCoy "Green"
    Sulu "Orange"
    And also did anyone else notice that Lt. Saavik has "Red" in ST 2 but "white" In ST 3 ??
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    These might help.
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  • edited July 2016 Posts: 12,466
    My ranking of the Star Trek films with details, ahead of Beyond:

    12. Star Trek: Into Darkness
    The last Star Trek film really left a sour taste in my mouth. Nothing about this film clicked for me. I didn't get into the characters, the story, the action - everything was either bad or unremarkable. Never want to see it again.
    11. Star Trek
    Yeah, I don't care much for the reboot series. It has turned Star Trek into a mainstream action spectacle, which it isn't supposed to be. The first is at least put together better as a film than Into Darkness. I have heard Beyond is supposed to be closer to the originals, so here's hoping that one can be the first reboot film I enjoy.
    10. Star Trek: Insurrection
    Insurrection can be summed in one word for me: BORING. I mean seriously, this film was bland and dull pretty much the whole way through. Still, it feels like Trek, and I prefer the crew and feel over the reboot stuff.
    9. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
    It's pretty bad, but at least Final Frontier has some really good moments between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. In all though, it's too silly, too dumb, and just not interesting enough. Clear-cut weakest of the original crew's films for me.
    8. Star Trek: Nemesis
    Nemesis isn't very good either, but it manages to achieve some good drama and action. The finale is pretty good. Definitely belongs in the bottom half still; too many uninteresting segments, and slightly missing the Trek-feel.
    7. Star Trek: Generations
    Generations is the first on my list I can openly say I enjoy. I know it's flawed, but I had a great time watching this film for the most part. It can be quite rough on the plot at points. Decent Trek film for me anyway overall.
    6. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
    I like The Voyage Home, but after the reboot films (or at least the first one), I'd pick it as the most overrated Trek film. It can be very humorous, but the story and action isn't as interesting to me as some of the other films.
    5. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
    Search for Spock is a little underappreciated. I find it a very solid continuation of Wrath of Khan, and a really fun adventure film overall. Not quite the best, but it has become one of my favorites.
    4. Star Trek: First Contact
    I'm sure nearly everyone agrees First Contact is the best New Generation Trek film. And it is a good one; a solid, intriguing action ride from start to end. It was just really nice to see the new crew get an especially good outing.
    3. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
    Maybe it's just me, but I think the first Star Trek film is incredibly underrated. While many call it too slow (or "the motionless picture), that pace really benefited the movie for me. I guess I can't exactly explain it, but I was really engaged the whole way, and I really though it captured the Trek feel.
    2. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
    An awesome sendoff for the original crew. Great plot, great action, and some of the most interesting character moments in the whole series. Easily one of the best Trek films.
    1. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
    No surprise here. Wrath of Khan is the best Star Trek film. I hardly need to explain; it's got the best villain, a good amount of action, and a great revenge story. The perfect Trek.
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    I quite enjoyed Beyond, thought it was much better than Darkness. The majority of the movie carried the same tone as TOS and I must say I think Pine makes a great Captain T Kirk. The climax falls it a bit flat and messy with the reveal and zero gravity fight, but there's a nice touch at the close of the movie for the older fans like myself that honour the first series. If you don't want to know what it is don't click on the spoiler below. Otherwise Beyond is a worthy improvement over Into Darkness.
    Spock gazing at a photograph of TOS crew, so Shatner does make an appearance of sorts after all.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited July 2016 Posts: 4,341
    I saw it last night. My verdict: More enjoyable than Into Darkness, certainly worth it.

    The cast really click with each other, many laughs throughout the 2 hours for funny dialogues between them. I loved the overall look of it, felt a lot like TOS. The visuals are spectacular throughout, space scenes ("starship porn") are different from the previous installments in having new effects (the camera turns a lot, frog-eye lens effects, new warp-turbulence effects).

    The McGuffin (that what drives the plot) is a bit lame (
    prevent destruction of space base
    ), but that does not spoil the fun. It's not an "epic" theme, where the characters have to save civilization, but more a story about responsibility for your crew and being stronger together.

    The music overall is excellent, especially one part that feels like a big space opera and with the Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" playing loudly reminded me of "Guardians of the Galaxy".

    My only criticism is that I just cannot stand the trend in action scenes to make cuts quicker and quicker, it seems like QoS all over again, with 4-5 camera angles per second. Often the action (fisticuffs and chases) is really hard to follow. I found myself losing interest in it during one or two scenes.

    Great ending. Essentially, the whole film is a pre-titles sequence, because titles follow as an afterthought. Same for Rihanna's song, at the end and therefore not really connected to the actual movie. 3D effects are well done, I totally forgot I was wearing the glasses.

    Recommendation: 3,5/5 stars.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I just saw it, I loved every minute of it, It's the best of the Reboot series. I even got a free poster. This was one I've been waiting for, for a long time and I wasn't disappointed. The cast was perfect and had a perfect amount of screen time each and unlike the last two which I felt were way too fast paced, this one was able to breathe and unwind naturally. Justin Lin did a great job. I hope he directs the next one too.

    Here was the poster I got.
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    Encouraging to hear such positive reviews. :-bd
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I really have to commend Michael Giacchino. His score for Beyond was very good. It's his best of the 3 Trek films he's worked on.
    There are moments in the score that remind me of Jerry Goldsmith's score for TMP.
  • Posts: 12,466
    So would most of you who have seen Beyond say it is considerably more similar to the classic Star Trek films? I didn't really like the first two reboot films, so does anyone think I'll enjoy this one?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    So would most of you who have seen Beyond say it is considerably more similar to the classic Star Trek films? I didn't really like the first two reboot films, so does anyone think I'll enjoy this one?

    In a lot of ways it's a yes and a no. It's hard to really explain since I've only seen it once. But boy was it a beautiful film. It does feel more like the original series overall but it also feels like it's own unique universe. I thought it was way better than both reboot films and I really think all the fans will like it. What Justin Lin and Simon Peg did was take what Abrams started and heavily improved on it. This felt like big screen TOS for me.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    So would most of you who have seen Beyond say it is considerably more similar to the classic Star Trek films? I didn't really like the first two reboot films, so does anyone think I'll enjoy this one?

    You should go see it immediately, you'll not be disappointed. Crew chemistry is like in the best episodes of TOS, lots of crackling bickering from Bones to Spock, Scotty on high form
    and with a lovely sidekick that respects her Montgomery Scotty for what he does with her spaceship.
    and brilliant music, not all of which is Michael Giacchino. I agree with murdock that this is the TOS crew finally clicking in place, with a modern twist. More matured than The first reboot ST.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited July 2016 Posts: 16,351
    This is my favorite track from Beyond's soundtrack, I'm going to put it in a spoiler tag just in case.

    Its such a beautiful track and really reminds me of John Barry's theme for Raise the Titanic.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Whoa! That looked amazing! That ship is spot on for the Enterprise design for "Planet of The Titans"
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    Half federation half Klingon... great test footage got my imagination going.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited July 2016 Posts: 9,020
    Just back from the cinema.
    You know I'm a huge Trekkie, Bondboy and DC fanboy (Batman/JusticeLeague).

    To get a new movie of all three franchises within 10 months is like Christmas, Birthday, favourite dish, lifting weights and sex at the same time.

    SPECTRE delivered all and more that I hoped for and it is my favourite Bond movie.

    BvS disappointed to a degree where I physically hurt just thinking about that crap.

    STAR TREK BEYOND

    I never doubted it will be great. But what I just experienced is the best Star Trek movie since First Contact.
    It definitely is my No 2 after the Borg movie with Picard.

    It's an insane action roller-coaster-ride of unparalleled dimensions. And within all the mind-blowing action there is the greatest dialogue and an incredible TOS feeling.
    The new character Jaylah is the best new addition to the hall of fame of Star Trek characters. She's definitely in my Top 10 best Star Trek characters ever.
    OMG I pray she'll be in the next one too.

    The score is bloody freaking fantastic!!!
    Justin Lin is a genius at directing action and I pray again, for him to become the next James Bond director.

    STAR TREK BEYOND delivers in every way.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    My simple, non-spoiler review of Star Trek Beyond - If you didn't enjoy the first two reboot movies, then you won't like this one either. Don't click on the spoiler tag if you haven't seen Beyond yet!
    After seeing Star Trek Beyond, I was very surprised by how many Trekkies seem to like it. Perhaps expectations were low after the very disappointing Into Darkness? While this is a step up from that, that's not really saying much. I did get the sense that some effort was made to try to recapture the spirit of TOS, but this is still nothing more than a big, loud (and sometimes dumb) action movie.

    Which is a shame because I do enjoy this cast. The character building and bonding moments in Beyond were very much appreciated. However, let's be honest, these actors absolutely pale in comparison to the original cast. I suppose that's been my main gripe all along. I want Trek to move forward, with new characters and new ideas. Why are we stuck trying to reinterpret the adventures of Kirk and Spock in an alternate timeline? All it does is remind me of how much better the originals were. In every conceivable way.

    That being said, I really did want to like this movie. There just wasn't anything particularly interesting or engaging going on most of the time. Seriously, the main villain's plan is the same one from the past three movies! He's very angry and gets his hands on some sort of super weapon to kill millions of people. Oh, and the Enterprise gets destroyed yet again. Yawn. I found myself bored to tears during most of the big "action" scenes.

    So, to be fair, let's list some positives. I did enjoy that they gave the whole cast a decent amount of screen time. The music was gorgeous. Some of the humor worked. I enjoyed the new alien chick (sorry, I've forgotten her name already) and it would be nice to see her as part of the crew in the next one. And that's about it. One last thought. Please don't play that Beastie Boys song in a Star Trek film ever again. Thanks.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    @pachazo, I think they were going all "space opera" with the Beastie Boys scene. It's not long, but I liked it.

    As to your criticism about the cast: The originals were original, and so by definition cannot be topped. It's like Connery, he'll never really be topped. But the thing is that the new actors bring their own stuff to the roles. They are in general more over the top than in the sixties. nuScotty is his own persona and I even like his playing more than originalScotty, the same goes for Chekov.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Hey, if you like it, more power to you. I can appreciate that they are putting their own spin on the characters instead of just doing an impression, but I'm just not a big fan of this alternate timeline. The first film was a fun idea, to see the original crew as cadets, but I would have preferred it ended there. Star Trek needs to move Beyond this reboot series and create something original again.
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