Reporting For Duty
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Categories
The most disappointing Bond movie?
I don't think there is a thread about this one. I am not asking which is the worst Bond movie, but which one is the most disappointing, i.e. which one promised so much more than it delivered, either at development stage or during shooting. Of course, all the Bond movies one deems bad is disappointing to a degree, but some are more than others. DAD is by far the one I consider the very worst of the franchise, however it was sadly to be expected, somewhat, with the direction the series was taking during Brosnan's tenure. A much superior movie, TND, is in a way more disappointing. I will extend on it later, but right now I want to read your thoughts on it.
^ Back to Top
The MI6 Community is unofficial and in no way associated or linked with EON Productions, MGM, Sony Pictures, Activision or Ian Fleming Publications. Any views expressed on this website are of the individual members and do not necessarily reflect those of the Community owners. Any video or images displayed in topics on MI6 Community are embedded by users from third party sites and as such MI6 Community and its owners take no responsibility for this material.
James Bond News • James Bond Articles • James Bond Magazine
Comments
I'll give it more thought, but those are my first feelings on a "disappointing" Bond film.
(Personally, I love TND, even more than GE, so that one was not disappointing for me.)
There were some great ideas in the movie and Craig was easily the best part of the movie but the story, the editing, the badly chosen director (more the artfull director than having any idea how to shoot an actionmovie), the borrowing of keypersonal of the succesfull competition (the Bourne movies). The carchase in the beginning was so-so, the boatchase was mmmweh, the plainjump was BAD CGI and beyond impossible, the killing of Mathis a waste of a good character for nothing really.
QoS was an idea when the filmed it but lacked the finishing touch by a real writer and the talent of a decent director to make it a movie worthy of the 007 franchise.
The other one, that started of good in the first 20 minutes or so and could have been very good but failed immensly is TWINE. It's such a shame that it throws away everything that could've been good. Instead we got a muddled action/soap drama.. Good for us that it only became better afterwards!
QOS has its share of flaws but unBondlike story? It is suitably large scale enough and just out there yet believable enough to be pretty much spot on as a Bond story, IMO.
This is one that fits perfectly: it is not a bad movie, not an irredeemably bad one anyway, but it is the first of the series with a serious drop in quality and with elements that would plague it in the future.
This is certainly another good one. I loved it when it was released, now I see more that it is flawed, and on the whole yes disappointing.
Add in The Man With The Golden Gun and that would be my list as well. All these films disappoint because of what came before.
I'd rather go by the ones I saw in the theatre. The most disappointing one was Tomorrow Never Dies. I had caught up on all the movies and was so excited to see the BRAND NEW ONE- especially since GoldenEye was my favorite, I thought TND would be even better.
I was tempted to say Die Another Day, but I actually saw that movie opening night with a big crowd of friends. It was such a fun event that it didn't actually 'hit me' that the movie was terrible until a couple days later :))
I've never heard of walking out during the break either. It's a film! What break?
That says something about DAD, disappointing after a disappointing movie. When I went to see it in theaters, it was the first Brosnan Bond I was disappointed in at the time.
Am I the only one who thought TWINE's PTS was NOT the best part of the movie? Some of it was good, but waaaayyyyy overlong and I did not find the boat chase that great.
Now DAD is 21st in my rankings (ahead of Diamonds Are Forever and The Man With The Golden Gun), whilst I find them not as good as the other Bond films, DAD is a disappointment.
Anyway, my most disappointing Bond film has to be QoS. After seeing CR (which was my second Bond film in theaters) I was really excited to see QoS. When I left the theater I didn't feel it was a bad Bond film but it just didn't live up to my expectations.
Same here. Although I must point out that had ANY of the previous Bond directors worked on QoS instead of the terrible Marc Forster, I feel I would have been more than satisfied with QoS.
TWINE could have been so much better, that said I always thought it was better than the one before and the one after, therefore I do not find it disappointing in that sense. I do also think that it already shows elements that will be used and explored more successfully during the Craig era, which already makes it less disappointing IMO.
I can agree with that, @Murdock! They themselves tried to manoeuvre in too many references to past Bond films, some so bleeding obvious and at the same time painfully lacking in subtlety, some even downright blasphemous, that it threw a large shadow over DAD from the start. SF, by contrast, managed to find the proper balance IMO.
Also I think EoN decided to play the subtly card and work on crafting something that will be along the lines of Casino Royale, rather than try to be the best we can be and throw everything on screen approach with DAD.
Not that I hate SF- it's still above MR in my mind. But it tried to pump the fun (Logan) into a drab & rehashed plot (Purvis, Wade) with a director that had clearly seen Home Alone one too many times (Mendes).
It's not bad, it's a fun, slick but generic Bond movie and I've always enjoyed it even though the story isn't great (as if we could ever take on China ffs) and there's too much action.
But before it we were in a golden age. We had the Dalton films and Goldeneye. TND just doesn't compare to those brilliant movies.
QOS - Following the awesomeness of CR and the new direction the franchise was heading, I couldn't wait for QOS. Unfortunately, it just fell flat on its face. For me, QOS is the most disappointing.
It's not very common at all now (at least in the UK it isn't, they still do it in some villages and small towns but you won't find a cinema in a big city having one) but intervels during films at the cinema used to be a fairly common thing.
Gave people a chance to stretch their legs and go to the toilet while the cinema try to make some extra cash by sending people in with ice cream to sell.
I think they still have them in some countries. So they probably still have intervals where @SaintMark lives, and so when he went to see QOS there were people walking out during the break.