The most disappointing Bond movie?

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  • Posts: 5,634
    It was more Miami Vice at times than James Bond, you half expected Crockett and Tubbs to walk on any moment

    Shark hunting, plastic iguanas etc, Yes it was disappointing. It could of been maybe the best Bond release ever in retrospect, but the end product was a real frustration

    It's merely another big regret or pity about Dalton's Bond tenure I truly feel. We'll have to get back to this another time as out of time for today but that's how I genuinely feel about the release in question
  • GSSGSS
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    For me one of the more disappointing outings for Bond was 'Octopussy' - I'm sorry but I have never really liked that one and have always felt that Louis Jourdan deserved a better film.
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    GSS wrote:
    For me one of the more disappointing outings for Bond was 'Octopussy' - I'm sorry but I have never really liked that one and have always felt that Louis Jourdan deserved a better film.

    I used to view OP this way also, but after more and more viewings, I actually turned out to enjoy it quite a bit! It's definitely one of the series that has to grow on you; from the outset, it looks really cheesy and comical, but there's a lot to be desired once you watch it enough, I think!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    00Beast wrote:
    It's definitely one of the series that has to grow on you; from the outset, it looks really cheesy and comical, but there's a lot to be desired once you watch it enough, I think!

    I concur!! It's Moore at his finest, if not his youngest.
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    I never got the whole LTK, Miami Vice thing, it just seems to be one of those things that's stuck. For me it's just a quality Bond film with a great performance by Dalton, it's a bit different but still has signature Bond moments such as the PTS, the tanker chase, the water skiing scene and a nice longer stint from Q.
  • TokolosheTokoloshe Under your bed
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    DAD is utterly terrible, but for me the lowlight is DAF. Such a wasted opportunity after the brilliance of OHMSS, descending into self-parody and camp instead of giving the story arc a proper ending (or indeed, any ending at all). Bringing back Connery was unnecessary, employing a third actor to portray Blofeld in as many films is awful and the whole thing is just an embarrassment to the series.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Tokoloshe wrote:
    DAD is utterly terrible, but for me the lowlight is DAF. Such a wasted opportunity after the brilliance of OHMSS, descending into self-parody and camp instead of giving the story arc a proper ending (or indeed, any ending at all). Bringing back Connery was unnecessary, employing a third actor to portray Blofeld in as many films is awful and the whole thing is just an embarrassment to the series.
    Well said, sir.
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    chrisisall wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    It's definitely one of the series that has to grow on you; from the outset, it looks really cheesy and comical, but there's a lot to be desired once you watch it enough, I think!

    I concur!! It's Moore at his finest, if not his youngest.

    I'd say Moore's finest was either in For Your Eyes Only , Live and Let Die, or even The Man with the Golden Gun, but OP does have a rather fine performance from him. If you can look past the more corny aspects of the movie, he does present a genuine hard-edged 007, especially in scenes like his confrontation of General Orlov on the train.
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    After rewatching TMWTGG and rediscovering how much good stuff there was in it, marred by the abysmally stupid things, I think right now it is my most disappointing Bond movie. I still enjoyed watching it, far more than it deserves actually.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Ludovico wrote:
    After rewatching TMWTGG and rediscovering how much good stuff there was in it, marred by the abysmally stupid things, I think right now it is my most disappointing Bond movie. I still enjoyed watching it, far more than it deserves actually.
    I'd definitely say it was the Bond movie with the most wasted potential. Still, I like it for what it WAS able to achieve, given the production circumstances.

  • RC7RC7
    edited March 2014 Posts: 10,512
    chrisisall wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    After rewatching TMWTGG and rediscovering how much good stuff there was in it, marred by the abysmally stupid things, I think right now it is my most disappointing Bond movie. I still enjoyed watching it, far more than it deserves actually.
    I'd definitely say it was the Bond movie with the most wasted potential. Still, I like it for what it WAS able to achieve, given the production circumstances.

    Possibly. The novel is underrated, but then it was never going to adhere to the novel. LALD, and before it DAF, cherry-picked ideas and moments, and before that YOLT had basically air-lifted its literary equivalent and dropped it in the ocean. The novels had become secondary at this point. That's why I still think QoS is the biggest disappointment. It was, and was always intended to be, a direct sequel. No literary narratives to adhere to, but a cinematic follow-up, plain and simple. It hit some of the beats, no doubt, but for a film that an audience can hypothesise over like no other, it fell short. It's the most disappointing for me because CR teed it up, monumentally, and it was well equipped to knock it out of the park. Whichever way you cut it (and I think it's a decent effort) It was nowhere near a home run.
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    RC7 wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    After rewatching TMWTGG and rediscovering how much good stuff there was in it, marred by the abysmally stupid things, I think right now it is my most disappointing Bond movie. I still enjoyed watching it, far more than it deserves actually.
    I'd definitely say it was the Bond movie with the most wasted potential. Still, I like it for what it WAS able to achieve, given the production circumstances.

    Possibly. The novel is underrated, but then it was never going to adhere to the novel. LALD, and before it DAF, cherry-picked ideas and moments, and before that YOLT had basically air-lifted its literary equivalent and dropped it in the ocean. The novels had become secondary at this point. That's why I still think QoS is the biggest disappointment. It was, and was always intended to be, a direct sequel. No literary narratives to adhere to, but a cinematic follow-up, plain and simple. It hit some of the beats, no doubt, but for a film that an audience can hypothesise over like no other, it fell short. It's the most disappointing for me because CR teed it up, monumentally, and it was well equipped to knock it out of the park. Whichever way you cut it (and I think it's a decent effort) It was nowhere near a home run.

    you're not American. Your football team are a shambles so you bring up baseball analogys. "Its political correctness gone mad"
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    I have got to say purely for most disappointing title, Diamonds Are Forever, even though I don't hate it. On Her Majesty's Secret Service was such a masterpiece, and I just didn't like the idea to make it a sillier follow-up that was extremely loosely connected with it. Blofeld didn't even die until a few movies later anyway, so DAF did little for the series IMO. I think it's an okay Bond film, but just extremely disappointing after one of my all-time favorites. Though I liked him in it, Connery still should have quit after YOLT was finished. I wasn't disappointed in Quantum of Solace like most people were, albeit it wasn't as good as its predecessor.
  • RC7RC7
    edited March 2014 Posts: 10,512
    DCisared wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    After rewatching TMWTGG and rediscovering how much good stuff there was in it, marred by the abysmally stupid things, I think right now it is my most disappointing Bond movie. I still enjoyed watching it, far more than it deserves actually.
    I'd definitely say it was the Bond movie with the most wasted potential. Still, I like it for what it WAS able to achieve, given the production circumstances.

    Possibly. The novel is underrated, but then it was never going to adhere to the novel. LALD, and before it DAF, cherry-picked ideas and moments, and before that YOLT had basically air-lifted its literary equivalent and dropped it in the ocean. The novels had become secondary at this point. That's why I still think QoS is the biggest disappointment. It was, and was always intended to be, a direct sequel. No literary narratives to adhere to, but a cinematic follow-up, plain and simple. It hit some of the beats, no doubt, but for a film that an audience can hypothesise over like no other, it fell short. It's the most disappointing for me because CR teed it up, monumentally, and it was well equipped to knock it out of the park. Whichever way you cut it (and I think it's a decent effort) It was nowhere near a home run.

    you're not American. Your football team are a shambles so you bring up baseball analogys. "Its political correctness gone mad"

    Clearly spelling isn't on the curriculum in Liverpool ;)
  • RC7RC7
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  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    DAF: In what could have been a solid revenge film, turned into Casino Royale '67.

    DAD: Actually started off good enough, but then silliness on steroids kicked in.

    QOS: Again, another follow-up letdown. Pacing was horrible.
  • Posts: 1,405
    Twice I left work to be at the premiere of Bond films that turned out the be oh so very less than expected. First, Die Another Day. I'll make a long story short, when I saw Bond riding on the CGI wave, it was bad enough. When that dismal scene was followed by a car chase that wasn't ending, I stood up and left my seat. But to tell you the thruth, I wasn't dissapointed, I was mad. Offended.

    The second time was with Quantum Of Solace. It took me about 10 seconds into the PTS to ask myself "what is this? what's goin' on?" I coudn't make heads or tails of the opening car chase, all that jumpy cam and fast editing had me puzzled. I thought "maybe they want to make the PTS as fast-pace as possible..."

    And then, the chase between Bond and Mitchell in Sienna got even worse. Now, now I was really, absolutly dissapointed. I was soooooo looking foward to the follow-up of Casino Royale...I felt betrayed, really double crossed. I sat on my seat all the way to the ending credit. Even went back the following night with my wife, closing my mouth very thighly until the end of the film not to influence my wife with my very low opinion of QOS . I went back, but still felt betrayed.

    Like I already stated in a post, Marc Forster should be handed a life sentence for this.
  • DAF and DAD....a wasted "sequel" to the legendary OHMSS and a 40-year anniversary which wss wasted on OTT crap...
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    DAF and DAD....a wasted "sequel" to the legendary OHMSS and a 40-year anniversary which wss wasted on OTT crap...

    I consider DAF to be a sequel to YOLT and OHMSS to be a Sequel to DAF.
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 4,619
    TOMORROW NEVER DIES. It isn't the only bad Bond film or the only silly one, but no other Bond film is bad and silly and boring.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote:
    I consider DAF to be a sequel to YOLT and OHMSS to be a Sequel to DAF.

    I like it! =D>
  • The series near-killers were TMWTGG and DAD

    I didn't want to see CR until I was sure it was a different kind of film, one that was actually more character-driven. It would have been for these fipms not to have been made at all and keep the fans waiting longer than to waste through all those Fleming titles.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote:
    I consider DAF to be a sequel to YOLT and OHMSS to be a Sequel to DAF.
    Then FYEO completes it with the death of Blofeld, yes?
  • chrisisall wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I consider DAF to be a sequel to YOLT and OHMSS to be a Sequel to DAF.

    I like it! =D>

    Why didn't they notice each other in Piz at first in OHMSS? Simply put, Peter Hunt wanted to follow the novel which made the movie good if not gooder.


  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Why didn't they notice each other in Piz at first in OHMSS? Simply put, Peter Hunt wanted to follow the novel which made the movie good if not gooder.
    'Gooder' is not a word.
    ;))
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited March 2014 Posts: 16,351
    chrisisall wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I consider DAF to be a sequel to YOLT and OHMSS to be a Sequel to DAF.

    I like it! =D>

    Why didn't they notice each other in Piz at first in OHMSS? Simply put, Peter Hunt wanted to follow the novel which made the movie good if not gooder.


    Bond could have given Blofeld amnesia after slamming him into the oil rig several times in his Bathosub. But it does make sense. the opening shot of DAF is in Japan as Bond hunts Blofeld down after YOLT. Then DAF continues to OHMSS. In that film Bond breaks his neck and by FYEO his neck is still broken. So it's fluid. Connery to Lazenby to Moore. No doubling back.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    But it's also possible that NO Blofeld in DAF was the real one, and that Blofeld was sitting somewhere in his wheelchair monitoring it all. Then after he wasted all his resources, he used what little was left in his mad attempt in FYEO...
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Bond could have given Blofeld amnesia after slamming him into the oil rig several times in his Bathosub. But it does make sense.
    Blofeld DID seem more disconnected to reality in OHMSS than DAF...

    Maybe Blofeld was into experimental drugs in the 60's? :))
  • Murdock wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Bond could have given Blofeld amnesia after slamming him into the oil rig several times in his Bathosub. But it does make sense.
    Blofeld DID seem more disconnected to reality in OHMSS than DAF...
    Maybe Blofeld was into experimental drugs in the 60's? :))

    Maybe!

  • Posts: 5,634
    Nothing really stands out above all others, but would have to include titles such as Goldfinger, Tomorrow Never Dies, Diamonds are Forever and Quantum of Solace for good measure
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