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A new "look" for the Casino Royale Bond

Cameron_MottCameron_Mott
edited April 2013 in Literary 007 Posts: 53
I shouldn't say new because it probably isn't to the peeps on this board.

Bond would have been 30 years old or so in CR. The photos I've seen have generally been of Carmichael in his twenties or forties.

Here is Carmichael as a 33 years old.

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Here he is at 36.

[img][/img]HCarmichael19362.png

These are closer to the right age and they have Bond's harder look and one shows him with "sunburn". This is more or less what I picture in my head now when I read Fleming. He's probably about the right build too in these.

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited April 2013 Posts: 28,694
    I plan on doing some Fleming Bond art in the future, though I haven't read that much of the novels, and will likely use Hoagy as a reference.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,281
    Hoagy Carmichael certainly had a rather gaunt appearance. Thanks for these additional pictures, sir.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I plan on doing some Fleming Bond art in the future, though I haven't read that much of the novels, and will likely use Hoagy as a reference.

    I do looking forward to that!

  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited May 2013 Posts: 3,494
    I never thought Carmichael was a good choice and always guessed Ian had too much to drink for even suggesting the thought. Thank the gods the wiser heads of Cubby and Harry (and Dana Broccoli as well for the suggestion) prevailed and the right man to debut cinematic Bond was chosen.
  • Cameron_MottCameron_Mott
    Posts: 53
    If Fleming knew the "young" Carmichael maybe his everyman handsome played in with Fleming's choice of a plain name.
  • Agent005Agent005
    Posts: 562
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    I never thought Carmichael was a good choice and always guessed Ian had too much to drink for even suggesting the thought. Thank the gods the wiser heads of Cubby and Harry (and Dana Broccoli as well for the suggestion) prevailed and the right man to debut cinematic Bond was chosen.

    Carmichael wasn't considered for the role on screen. Fleming simply used him as a reference point for Bond's look in the novels.

  • Villiers53Villiers53
    edited May 2013 Posts: 802
    Agent005 wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    I never thought Carmichael was a good choice and always guessed Ian had too much to drink for even suggesting the thought. Thank the gods the wiser heads of Cubby and Harry (and Dana Broccoli as well for the suggestion) prevailed and the right man to debut cinematic Bond was chosen.

    Carmichael wasn't considered for the role on screen. Fleming simply used him as a reference point for Bond's look in the novels.

    Exactly! And there is no doubting that Fleming physically modelled Bond on Carmichael.
    In a certain way, Hoagy epitomised '40s and '50s chic when men were deemed to be at their best if they were wafer thin and had a certain foppish-ness about them.
    David Niven had a similar style influence and was one of Ian's choices for the role.
    Connery, who we all know came to define the cinematic Bond would have been regarded by Ian, at least in the first instance, as rough trade. He probably changed his mind when he saw how Terence Young worked on him and groomed him for the screen interpretation.
    Probably, the only Bond actor that might have got Ian's instant approval would have been Timothy Dalton.

  • Cameron_MottCameron_Mott
    Posts: 53
    I agree with Villiers. I'm thinking maybe Fleming wanted something like Carmichael. Handsome enough for the ladies with a hard edge but not too handsome. Tall and strong but not in an obvious way and so on.
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