SPECTRE: Thomas Newman is Back! (appreciation topic)

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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It does for me, shows a level of invention and innovation. ;)
  • Posts: 11,119
    Getafix wrote: »
    yes, "interesting". speaks volumes

    I call it "great"
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    He mixes the " Clickety clack" noise of the train tracks into the train fight music and
    In the " Jellyfish" fight sequence, as it's all punches and kicks, he used mainly
    Percussion, to add to the drama of the scene. I find the reason behind why composers
    Use the sounds and arrangements to their tracks , very Interesting. ;)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,520
    The Dutch release date of the Europe version of the soundtrack release of the movie is on 23 October 2015. Ean code: 0602547595096

    http://www.bol.com/nl/p/spectre/9200000049886928/

  • M_Balje wrote: »
    The Dutch release date of the Europe version of the soundtrack release of the movie is on 23 October 2015. Ean code: 0602547595096

    http://www.bol.com/nl/p/spectre/9200000049886928/

    Thanks for the news @M_Bakje! Seems a reasonable date to me :-). One or two weeks before the premiere. Bit similar to Joe Kraemer's score for "M:I-RN" and Daniel Pemberton's "UNCLE" score.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    I'm really looking forward to his score this time around.

    I'll definitely watch Bridge of Spies for clues about Newman's form. There's a lot riding on the score for SP. Hope he lives up to it.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Soundtrack cover art confirmd, there use poster art of poster 3. I hoped there use teaser/poster 1.

    9200000049886928.jpg
    http://s.s-bol.com/imgbase0/imagebase3/large/FC/8/2/9/6/9200000049886928.jpg

    Cd wil include score version of Writing's on the wall.
  • I wonder if that's any indication of WOTW being worked into the score.
  • M_Balje wrote: »
    Soundtrack cover art confirmd, there use poster art of poster 3. I hoped there use teaser/poster 1.

    9200000049886928.jpg
    http://s.s-bol.com/imgbase0/imagebase3/large/FC/8/2/9/6/9200000049886928.jpg

    Cd wil include score version of Writing's on the wall.

    This is quite nice!!!!

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    A lot of people I'm currently working with feel they should incorporate SS's melody into the score. Wouldn't that be lovely.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    A lot of people I'm currently working with feel they should incorporate SS's melody into the score. Wouldn't that be lovely.

    It would be nice yes. But ever since the score for "DAD" Eon prefers to separate the movie score production from the title song performer production. Which is sad...but what can you do about it.

    The title song "WOTW" (...instrumental) on the actual movie score hasn't happened in a while though! So that does bode well. Permission from Capital Records was necessary to put it on the Sony Classical Records album of the Thomas Newman score. So it could very well be that Thomas Newman has cooperated slightly more with Jimmy Napes and Sam Smith.

    October 23rd! Next pivotal date! :-D!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Hope we get big doses of the James Bond theme. :)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I'd like the Bond theme incorporated into Newman's melodies, like Barry did it. I'd personally prefer that to it just blaring out unfiltered like was done during the Aston reveal in SF.

    I think Joe Kraemer showed how to do it earlier this yr with MI-RN. Be creative and incorporate it, twist it and manipulate it while still keeping it clearly recognizable. Barry was a master at this in his later years, and Kraemer did a great job with the MI theme. Even John Powell did it very well with the Bourne theme he created in Identity with Supremacy and Ultimatum (crafting it and manipulating it while still keeping it real).

    My biggest desire (more than Bond theme and more than score incorporation) is for excellent hummable melodies, finessed & rhythmic (rather than noisy) action scoring and a little more 'amped up' score this time. I want more percussion and orchestra.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 11,119
    I love this rendition of the James Bond Theme in this specific track 'Driving To Paris'. It's lush, it's big, it has snare drums, it's 'Thunderball'esque, very 60's..and sadly David Arnold never did better in the films he did after "TND". The James Bond Themes from "CR" for instance (end titles) weren't my favourites...they were a big too....'rough', 'dirty':
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 11,425
    RC7 wrote: »
    A lot of people I'm currently working with feel they should incorporate SS's melody into the score. Wouldn't that be lovely.

    It would be nice yes. But ever since the score for "DAD" Eon prefers to separate the movie score production from the title song performer production. Which is sad...but what can you do about it.

    The title song "WOTW" (...instrumental) on the actual movie score hasn't happened in a while though! So that does bode well. Permission from Capital Records was necessary to put it on the Sony Classical Records album of the Thomas Newman score. So it could very well be that Thomas Newman has cooperated slightly more with Jimmy Napes and Sam Smith.

    October 23rd! Next pivotal date! :-D!

    It's not since DAD. They've been separating the score from the song ever since John Barry stopped doing the music - Licence to Kill in 1989 marks the break point. Ever since then, with a couple of exceptions with David Arnold's input, the song and score have been separate.

    If there's an instrumental version of WOTW on the soundtrack then surely that confirms that Newman has incorporated it into the score?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited October 2015 Posts: 1,731
    AceHole wrote: »
    No, I respectfully disagree. There is plenty of time and opportunity for the current title song to be incorporated into the score by Newman.

    Well it better bl***y be.


    A bondfilm that does not have the title song woven into the score just reeks of bad management and poor collaboration.

    There is NO excuse for the song not to be a part of the fabric of the instrumental score. NONE.

    (As you can see I feel quite strongly about this...) :-w
    talos7 wrote: »
    I've been a proponent for Giacchino for years. He has what it takes to produce a classic Bond score. I re-listened to the entire Incredible score and, man, does he get it. It's not going to happen but a Giacchino soundtrack would be the icing on the cake for SPECTRE.
    With that said, I hope Newman knocks it out of the park.

    Seconded. Giacchino seems not just a far better fit for Bond - some of his work almost sounds like a proper Bond score already...

    Shore was 'chosen' simply because Mendes knows him & likes working with him, nothing more. He was not handed the job because he is the best man for it... a recurring theme with EoN these days...

    As the title of the thread is 'appreciation' I suppose I better say smth nice as well before the lynching starts. Shore is a talented composer, yes.
    Just not one who (so far) 'gets' Bond.
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    In all honesty, I found the score for "Ghost Protocol" unbearable to listen. No clear melodies, no proper build-ups. The only things I liked from that score was the Indian party music and his rendition of Lalo Shiffrin's theme. Besides that I found it a forgettable score.

    No, I think Henry Jackman ("Kingsman") and Daniel Pemberton ("UNCLE") in my opinion are the frontrunners to replace Thomas Newman...IF he wants to quit after "SPECTRE".

    Because let's give the poor man a chance OK? He only composed ONE score so far. Perhaps "SPECTRE" will be great. Don't be too harsh on Thomas Newman.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited October 2015 Posts: 1,731
    "The Incredibles" score should have been enough to have convinced EoN, in my opinion.
  • Posts: 11,425
    AceHole wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    No, I respectfully disagree. There is plenty of time and opportunity for the current title song to be incorporated into the score by Newman.

    Well it better bl***y be.


    A bondfilm that does not have the title song woven into the score just reeks of bad management and poor collaboration.

    There is NO excuse for the song not to be a part of the fabric of the instrumental score. NONE.

    (As you can see I feel quite strongly about this...) :-w
    talos7 wrote: »
    I've been a proponent for Giacchino for years. He has what it takes to produce a classic Bond score. I re-listened to the entire Incredible score and, man, does he get it. It's not going to happen but a Giacchino soundtrack would be the icing on the cake for SPECTRE.
    With that said, I hope Newman knocks it out of the park.

    Seconded. Giacchino seems not just a far better fit for Bond - some of his work almost sounds like a proper Bond score already...

    Shore was 'chosen' simply because Mendes knows him & likes working with him, nothing more. He was not handed the job because he is the best man for it... a recurring theme with EoN these days...

    As the title of the thread is 'appreciation' I suppose I better say smth nice as well before the lynching starts. Shore is a talented composer, yes.
    Just not one who (so far) 'gets' Bond.

    Who is Shore?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,731
    Getafix wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    No, I respectfully disagree. There is plenty of time and opportunity for the current title song to be incorporated into the score by Newman.

    Well it better bl***y be.


    A bondfilm that does not have the title song woven into the score just reeks of bad management and poor collaboration.

    There is NO excuse for the song not to be a part of the fabric of the instrumental score. NONE.

    (As you can see I feel quite strongly about this...) :-w
    talos7 wrote: »
    I've been a proponent for Giacchino for years. He has what it takes to produce a classic Bond score. I re-listened to the entire Incredible score and, man, does he get it. It's not going to happen but a Giacchino soundtrack would be the icing on the cake for SPECTRE.
    With that said, I hope Newman knocks it out of the park.

    Seconded. Giacchino seems not just a far better fit for Bond - some of his work almost sounds like a proper Bond score already...

    Shore was 'chosen' simply because Mendes knows him & likes working with him, nothing more. He was not handed the job because he is the best man for it... a recurring theme with EoN these days...

    As the title of the thread is 'appreciation' I suppose I better say smth nice as well before the lynching starts. Shore is a talented composer, yes.
    Just not one who (so far) 'gets' Bond.

    Who is Shore?

    Replace all 'Shore's with Newman. Always get those two mixed up.
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    In that case I agree with you. But I am hopeful that this score will be a step up from his rather generic and uninspired SF effort.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Hope we get big doses of the James Bond theme. :)

    Agreed. Just this morning, I was randomly replaying the PTS of LTK in my mind and I remembered how dramatically awesome it was when the Bond theme kicked in the moment Dalton started "fishing for Sanche". If SP did that at some point for its PTS I'd be jizzing in my pants.
  • SirGodfreySirGodfrey France
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    AceHole wrote: »
    "The Incredibles" score should have been enough to have convinced EoN, in my opinion.

    IMHO Giacchino is great when he works for animated movies :The Incredibles, Ratatouille, UP or Inde Out have indeed wonderful scores.
    But I am not a huge fan of his compositions in movies.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    My favourite part of SF's score is the PTS' Grand Bazaar Istanbul track.
    In fact that's one of the best score tracks of the entire series imo.
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    My favourite part of SF's score is the PTS' Grand Bazaar Istanbul track.
    In fact that's one of the best score tracks of the entire series imo.

    Fully agree. I like it more than "Time To Get Out" from the QOS PTS.
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
    Posts: 1,208
    I'm really looking forward to what Newman will have in store for us for SPECTRE. I really enjoyed Skyfall's music.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    I might be in the minority but I prefer the Bond theme sparsely, and slowly. Casino Royale got it right, but a few more times wouldn't have hurt.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 1,021
    anyone know when we might get to listen to some extracts from the SP score ? I bit like the early extracts that were released for SF
  • Really looking forward to buying a copy of Thomas Newman's Skyfall score on 23rd October here in UK. Skyfall was the best post Barry Bond score IMO.

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    From what I'm hearing from undisclosed quarters that shall remain nameless, Mr Newman's upped his game and gone big and brassy, @PeterGreenhill. I'm willing to bet my house SP blows SF out of the water.
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