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Secondly, I agree with wanting comic book movies to be successful. BvS' unfavourable reception and poor performance has not only hurt the DC brand but it also hurts the genre. The last thing we as fans need are the seeds sewn to instigate and proliferate superhero fatigue and unfortunately, with films like BvS underperforming in such a way really puts added pressure on other comic book movies. If WW and SS aren't received well, WB/DC might as well call it a day and withdraw themselves from the cinematic arena, which just wouldn't be healthy for the genre.
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Ok really lets talk about this
Civil war (the movie not the graphical novel) is essentially this
After the events of and death toll of civilians of the past few marvel movies the government has decided that super heros need to be put in check because of something to do with Bucky (the trailers are not clear) iron man agrees with this captain America doesn't and for some reason they fight... Yeah completely different from
After the destruction during Man of Steel the government feels superman needs to be put in check and because of Bruce's distrust (and some manipulation by Luthor) the two go head to head
Completely the same your either blind or too much in love with marvel to realize this. Like I said the more I watch for civil war the less intrest I have because it's the same dam film
As for you thinking DC can't win comic con we will see considering it was all anyone talked about since 2013 at each comic con I would suspect this year could be no different if DC goes big.
http://batman-news.com/2016/04/07/ben-affleck-london-house-justice-league/
Also inspite of your doom and gloom here is news that Justice League part 1 is still happening
DC at comicon will show what? Who cares what's been going on since 2013? The fact is, the much overhyped BvS not only failed to impress but other movie studios who gave BvS a wide birth won't be making the same mistake for any other WB/DC property. What has WB/DC done cinematically in the last say 40 years that's actually good apart from Nolan's Bat films? WB/DC are in full damage control mode and instead of taking off at warp speed, they're back to square one with having to rebuild trust and confidence in their brand and even now they've foolishly said they're going to reduce the amount of small films and focus on their big franchises like the DCEU...which is exactly what they should not be doing because it'll only lead to huge losses and set them on the path to bankruptcy eventually. WB/DC don't know what the fuck they are doing!
Meanwhile Disney/Marvel are entertaining their audiences, increasing their mass public appeal and laughing while counting their money. Jungle Book will kill at the BO and already has amazing reviews, the trailer for Star Wars Rogue one just dropped and instead of doing a WB/DC and dropping their pants and shooting their load, they've only teased their big Ace in the hole.
With Marvel's phase 3 and Infinity War movies coming out over the next few years and their brand well and truly established and only getting stronger I think it's WB/DC that need to be more concerned about if it's worth them showing up at ComicCon let alone them coming remotely close to dominating it lol (you're a funny guy).
As for JL, I've never said that it's not happening. I've only said that I THINK it would be in their best interest to delay it. I even posted WB/DC scheduled movie slate for the next few years. History and reality has spoken loud and clear and I'm echoing it. If you don't like what I'm saying, take your issues up with WB/DC.
Something BvS should have been, instead it's a gigantic failure.
I will watch the Ultimate cut and then decide if I ever watch it again at all, respectively do a fan version of BvS omitting the S in it as much as possible so that I have more or less a BvWW movie.
WB/DC are crazy.
Many people who weren't exactly fans of or impressed by MoS came in to BvS for Batman and the view that WB/DC/Snyder identified and took heed of the criticisms of MoS, and would be addressed in BvS to improve upon them. However, what we got instead was a doubling down on the troublesome and wrong tone and characterizations, and gave audiences a movie that is now regarded less favourably by many as an astonishingly greater critical disappointment and failure than MoS. They practically jettisoned their goodwill into Hell-fire.
Civil War and BvS do have some similar elements, but at their core they are very different.
In scope and tension and consequence, Civil War wins easily. Both films deal with superhero conflicts, but while BvS was only a battle between Batman and Superman (it was only five minutes long, so maybe "scuffle" is a better word), Civil War is exactly that-a war! In BvS Batman and Superman punch each other a bit; okay, cool. In Civil War, all the heroes we've grown to love are picking sides and battling each other. Come on now, you can't tell me BvS is even close to as interesting at that.
Furthermore, the consequences posed by Civil War will be much greater than anything BvS could've dreamed up. CW calls for heroes to register and unmask, doing away with secret identities and challenging vigilantism in a big way. What's at stake in BvS? It's just two and a half hours of a bunch of people who want to punch Superman for stupid reasons that hold no water. Can't say BvS wins there either.
As far as the similar story of heroes vs heroes goes, the only way Civil War could lose to the devastatingly disappointing BvS is if, in the final battle of the film, the actors are all replaced with shoddily made puppets set against a grainy green screen.
Marvel is going to decimate what meager work DC has tried to do with BvS both in context of the content the film is dealing with, and at the box office. It certainly won't earn record-breaking big bucks two weeks into its release only to then face a 70% decline in returns, I'll tell you that much.
If my hopes are true and Civil War ends with
DC can announce all the "cool" films they want from here on out, but the audience, made up of fans like me and @doubleoego (as well as most here) who feel very frustrated with them right now, will forever be suspicious and cautious of everything they give us from here on out, whether it's a Batman solo film or an Ant-Man equivalent film with relatively unknown characters. If DC and Warner want our trust, faith and our bucks, they need to earn it back. And after BvS, that's looking like a very difficult mission, my friend.
JL has at least the advantage to come after such a failure. People will have zero expectations for it, but then that could mean, many will not even bother to go the cinema for it.
It's 20 months out and they don't even have a script done for it yet, do they? It's definitely not way too late.
Even with enough time to be forewarned of a pending problem WB/DC have elected to ignore the ailments of BvS and have continued that careless trend going forward with JL. To think, these morons are actually being paid huge salaries for such mountainous levels of incompetency.
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Give me a break! This:
is not a war! In my opinion, Civil War will easily be a better film than BvS. I'm certain Civil War will beat BvS both critically and financially, but like DC's "Dawn of Justice" and JL, this film is happening too soon with not enough proper build up (or characters).
No proper build up? The MCU is 12 films and four TV series in now. If that isn't enough build up, I don't know what is.
Raimi's Spidey was pretty good. The recent one was kind of a waste.
But Marvel KNOWS the character. Look who they cast as Peter. I'm all in for all of it.
Obviously Marvel can't have all the characters they want in the film, as some are tied up with other studios who have the rights, but they've got plenty of heroes to make this a worthy adaptation of the source, and the vast majority of them have been heavily built up for years now. They have a clear end in sight for these movies, and they're heading there, like it or not.
What worries me is the solo films for Spidey. Sony still have control, and they're a lot like DC and Warner seem to be: made up more of bean counters than fans and who don't really get the characters they're tasked with using. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm more skeptical now that I've ever been.
These genre films need to calm down and tell more focused stories. Not every superhero movie has to have three villains in it for crying out loud. You think people would learn from the likes of Spider-Man 3, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and BvS that packing movies with too much isn't a good thing. The last two listed also focused too much on teasing future films or spin-offs instead of trying to be a good movie on their own, and look what happened. Sony's whole infrastructure collapsed and BvS's disappointing returns is likely making big changes behind the scenes at DC and Warner.
Marvel are the only ones that offer anything even remotely resembling consistency in the positive. Everyone else either consistently shits the bed or disappoints at times, succeeds at others.
EEt's nothing personeel, just beezness.