Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Josh Brolin confirms he was up for the Batman role:

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=108688
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    While I would of been fine with Brolin I after reading this mornings interview with Gardner I am happy Ben got it he apparently is super excited about it
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Risico007 wrote:
    While I would of been fine with Brolin I after reading this mornings interview with Gardner I am happy Ben got it he apparently is super excited about it

    And it's also nice to see that Ben is already starting to work out for the film. Can't wait to see how he looks in the final film.
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    Ben is passionate for the character, so that is a good sign.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I'm not worried at all. Snyder and Fong know how to shoot a beautiful film, so I don't think we have to worry about the spectacle in this film. I am more concerned about the scripting, but with Goyer on hand I am sure I needn't worry over that aspect either.
  • RC7RC7
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    I'm not worried at all. Snyder and Fong know how to shoot a beautiful film, so I don't think we have to worry about the spectacle in this film. I am more concerned about the scripting, but with Goyer on hand I am sure I needn't worry over that aspect either.

    I'd agree with this. Script/Story is my main concern. I have faith that Goyer will get it down on paper, but will Snyder translate it to screen? I'm optimistic yet sceptical. All may be forgiven if DC announce Affleck will direct himself in the next standalone Batman.

  • What...Capin Marvel as well?
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    What...Capin Marvel as well?

    Huh
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I wonder if DC will put out a Captain Marvel (probably renamed "Shazam") film while Marvel is, I believe, working on a Ms. Marvel film. (Isn't that the role Katee Sackhoff is rumored to be in talks for right now?)
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    I'm not worried at all. Snyder and Fong know how to shoot a beautiful film, so I don't think we have to worry about the spectacle in this film. I am more concerned about the scripting, but with Goyer on hand I am sure I needn't worry over that aspect either.

    Hm. May I present Exhibits A, B and C:
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    I understand Goyer wrote The Dark Knight trilogy, and those are films I enjoy, but this guy hasn't had great track record otherwise. His recent blunder with Man of Steel only worries me more.
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    Ben Affleck might be unofficially helping to script
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @SJK91, what did you not like about 'Man of Steel'?
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @SJK91, what did you not like about 'Man of Steel'?
    Apologies, as it has been nearly 4 months since I have seen it last, but here is a list of the things I can remember.

    - Zach Snyder in the director's chair. I have mentioned it earlier in this thread - Snyder has absolutely ZERO sense of restraint. The action sequences of Man of Steel are excruciatingly long, especially the final fight with Zod and Supes. It is a mess of CGI colors and a whirlwind of nauseating lights. I seem to recall the movie ending like 3 times. Same goes for the stupidly long fight scene which features some wonderful glory shots of Sears and Ihop.
    - Unnecessary drama to make up for a uninteresting story. An example of this would be inexplicably following Laurence Fishburne and his Daily Planet staff around during Zod's destroying of Metropolis. Why even follow them around at all? They don't have a lick of importance in the film, and watching their misadventures during the climax seems like the script's cheap way of trying to create excitement. Needless to say, the script failed at that aspect.
    - Flashback overuse. Now, I'm not one of those tight-wad script people who claim than any flashback is evil. With that being said, MOS's numerous flashbacks continually stopped an already lagging story. The way in which they are done are also kind of clunky. For example, Clark Kent sees a school bus - cut to: flashback of his near death experience of a school bus. Might as well added this:

    - Amy Adams as Lois Lane. I just remember not caring for her at all, I thought she was miscast.

    - Hans Zimmer. Screw this guy. MOS's soundtrack is terrible. Not only is it shameless self-plagiarism (something Zimmer is known for), but totally inappropriate for Superman. Look no farther than John Williams magnificent score for the original Superman film. Even Superman Returns gets it more right than MOS's bland, boring and crap Zimmer garbage.

    - Michael Shannon as Zod. I thought he was only alright - and considering the massive praise this guy gets as an actor, that was a disappointment for me. To be honest, I thought Shannon was awful in the first 15 minutes of the film or so. He overacts and shouts, and I was actually embarrassed for him. He got better as the film went on, but he still wasn't memorable. The script makes him out to be some sort of generic bad guy bent on world domination, too.
    - "He's kinda cute." Do we have Goyer to thank for this one? Alright, alright, I'm really nitpicking, but here is an attempt to elicit a laugh that very clearly shows the script's incompetence. The whole movie treats itself like Schindler's List, and we get a line like that thrown in there? It's cringeworthy line with a cringeworthy delivery, and leaves a bad taste in your mouth walking out of the theater.
    - I don't care about the neck snapping! But I do care about the bad editing that happens during that scene. Zod is threatening a family with his laser eyes and Superman snaps Zod's neck. But we never get another shot of the family after! Did they die? Did Supes save them? Eh, whatever.

    - More little things: at the beginning of the film, the general guy tells Lois Lane something along the lines of, "...it gets incredibly cold out there. You'd freeze very quickly." Literally moments later, the film cuts to Lois Lane traversing the ice cliffs in the middle of the night. Because screw what the script JUST TOLD US.


    I'm getting carried away, I realize. And there are likely more problems that I didn't specify - like I said, I haven't seen the film in 4 months. But adversely, I will tell you what I did like.

    - Henry Cavill as Supes. Too stone-faced, but at least he didn't make a complete fool out of himself like Shannon did some of the time. Cavill is a fine actor and given a good movie I think he can actually be a pretty good Superman. Not as good as Reeve, but I think he's better than Routh.

    - Kevin Costner. This one is shocking for me. I don't like Costner in just about anything, but I think he gives the best performance of the entire film. The ONE scene in Man of Steel that actually got an emotional response out of me was when
    Jon Kent stops Clark from saving him by simply holding out his hand (during the tornado).
    It's the best scene in the film without question, and I also foolishly thought it would be the beginning of a better film. Hm.

    - The movie is shot well. Too much fake looking CGI garbage, but when that was absent, the film did indeed look good.

    - I really loved the part when the bombastic Superman theme was playing when...

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    Oh, wait.

    Okay, I'm done. I really don't mean to be offensive or rude, I promise. Anyone can like any movie for any reason they want, and I really mean that. But as it stands, Man of Steel was gone about wrong. Zack Snyder shouldn't be directing movies, Nolan's involvement inappropriately brought too much Dark Knight-ness over, and Hans Zimmer is a hack.

    I'm going to go sit down now.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @SJK91, I did a quick scan of what you said, perhaps you should add spoiler tags to some of that information, especially the conclusion of the final fight scene, just for those who have yet to see the movie. Currently, some of the things I agree with, others I don't, but the one that stuck out the most was Michael Shannon as Zod: I loved him, and I think Shannon is a magnificent, heavily under-appreciated actor. I didn't have a problem with him in the movie, I thought he did a great job.
  • edited September 2013 Posts: 1,310
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @SJK91, I did a quick scan of what you said, perhaps you should add spoiler tags to some of that information, especially the conclusion of the final fight scene, just for those who have yet to see the movie. Currently, some of the things I agree with, others I don't, but the one that stuck out the most was Michael Shannon as Zod: I loved him, and I think Shannon is a magnificent, heavily under-appreciated actor. I didn't have a problem with him in the movie, I thought he did a great job.
    Good suggestion with the spoilers. I was on a roll and didn't even think to include those. Thanks for saving me some grief. ;)

    And once again, that is the great thing about movies - they are art. And like all forms of art, everyone is equally right in their opinions. I can definitely see why MOS is so appealing, but it just didn't appeal to me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @SJK91, happy to help ;)

    I can understand that. I hate when people try to turn opinions into facts. There's no way you can change someone's opinion on a film most of the time, because they feel how they feel about it. They didn't like an actor, a scene, the finale, the entirety of the film? That's their opinion. I completely respect yours. I think I've just been disappointed with so many films these past few summers that when it came to this one, I had low expectations for everything I saw and was incredibly surprised with most of them.

    When it came to 'Man of Steel,' I wasn't a huge Superman fan, so it was an even bigger, better surprise for me.
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    I will admit I am more interested in a Affleck Directed Written and Starring solo Batman film then this but hey I am still happy I don't have to wait till the rumored 2020 for a new batman film
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    SJK91 wrote:
    I'm not worried at all. Snyder and Fong know how to shoot a beautiful film, so I don't think we have to worry about the spectacle in this film. I am more concerned about the scripting, but with Goyer on hand I am sure I needn't worry over that aspect either.

    Hm. May I present Exhibits A, B and C:
    2q3dnqt.png

    I understand Goyer wrote The Dark Knight trilogy, and those are films I enjoy, but this guy hasn't had great track record otherwise. His recent blunder with Man of Steel only worries me more.

    Add to that Exhibit D: Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance

    Ghost_Rider_2_Poster.jpg
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    SJK91 wrote:
    I'm not worried at all. Snyder and Fong know how to shoot a beautiful film, so I don't think we have to worry about the spectacle in this film. I am more concerned about the scripting, but with Goyer on hand I am sure I needn't worry over that aspect either.

    Hm. May I present Exhibits A, B and C:
    2q3dnqt.png

    I understand Goyer wrote The Dark Knight trilogy, and those are films I enjoy, but this guy hasn't had great track record otherwise. His recent blunder with Man of Steel only worries me more.

    Add to that Exhibit D: Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance

    Ghost_Rider_2_Poster.jpg
    Oh my God, you're right. And that's probably the worst of them all!

  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    SJK91 wrote:
    SJK91 wrote:
    I'm not worried at all. Snyder and Fong know how to shoot a beautiful film, so I don't think we have to worry about the spectacle in this film. I am more concerned about the scripting, but with Goyer on hand I am sure I needn't worry over that aspect either.

    Hm. May I present Exhibits A, B and C:
    2q3dnqt.png

    I understand Goyer wrote The Dark Knight trilogy, and those are films I enjoy, but this guy hasn't had great track record otherwise. His recent blunder with Man of Steel only worries me more.

    Add to that Exhibit D: Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance

    Ghost_Rider_2_Poster.jpg
    Oh my God, you're right. And that's probably the worst of them all!

    Eeeeehhhh... Jumper was still worse.
  • RC7RC7
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    SJK91 wrote:
    I understand Goyer wrote The Dark Knight trilogy, and those are films I enjoy, but this guy hasn't had great track record otherwise. His recent blunder with Man of Steel only worries me more.

    I don't think Goyer did a bad job with MOS. If I had to the lay the blame at anyone's door for it's shortcomings, it would be Snyder. One can only hope he learns from his mistakes, but he is still the one element of SvB that I'm genuinely worried about. I can only hope Affleck offers a 'helping hand'.

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    RC7 wrote:
    Just to read that makes me feel tired and weary.
    Although really it could mean anything.

  • They should have hired me for this movie

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  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Robin and his damn panties... Fredric Wertham must be laughing at me now.
  • Justin beiber tweeted his supsvbatman script image with robin circled lol lol.

    Hope this is just a hoax by the beiber
  • Just purchased The Christopher Reeve Superman Collection. This is a deleted scene from The Quest for peace, a earlier deleted scene Lex created something before Nuclear Man to try to destroy Superman. This deleted scene is possibly one of the worst things ever done.

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    Rumor is villains will be Lex Luthor and The Joker
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