Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2013 Posts: 13,355
    The title needs either the words Batman, Superman or something of that ilk included for the public to know what it is, right off the bat. There's no 007 logo to tag on here. 'World's Finest' is unrelated to everything Superman/Batman released to date. This film will go for brand recognition like everything else, hence one of the newly registered names.
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    Superman/Batman: The League Begins
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    The title needs either the words Batman, Superman or something of that ilk included for the public to know what it is, right off the bat. There's no 007 logo to tag on here. 'World's Finest' is unrelated to everything Superman/Batman released to date. This film will go for brand recognition like everything else, hence one of the newly registered names.

    If the stupid suits and bean counters are concerned about that above all else, then just call it Batman vs. Superman. No other title will put more butts in seats, I assure you. I just fail to see how any of the domain titles are any less ambiguous/confusing as World's Finest. Just once, let's make a decision that benefits/caters to the actual fans of the characters who will have repeat theater viewings of the film in theaters and once it releases on disc and digital formats.
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Just once, let's make a decision that benefits/caters to the actual fans of the characters who will have repeat theater viewings of the film in theaters and once it releases on disc and digital formats.

    That's almost the entire audience then. Why would you go and see a film about Superman and Batman if you weren't an actual fan of them?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Just once, let's make a decision that benefits/caters to the actual fans of the characters who will have repeat theater viewings of the film in theaters and once it releases on disc and digital formats.

    That's almost the entire audience then. Why would you go and see a film about Superman and Batman if you weren't an actual fan of them?

    People would surprise you.

    Here's the kinds of people that will see this film, in my estimation:

    Group 1: First and foremost, this group is made up of comics readers who love the characters to death and who have waited their entire lives for this kind of film.

    Group 2: This group includes fans of the superhero genre in general, who may not know these characters that well, but will go anyway because they love these kinds of films.

    Group 3: Then you have the people who saw MoS, and will see the sequel just to keep following the story. They may or may not be comics fans.

    Group 4: Next you have the casual filmgoers who don't know Superman from Green Arrow, and will go to see the move either because it looks cool in the trailers, or because of the word of mouth it carries.

    Group 5: And finally, you have the people who will be dragged to see it by either their friends or family, and who are unfamiliar with the characters.

    There are many variations on each group, but these are the kinds of people that I expect to go out and see this movie. The audience types that will make this film extremely successful above all the rest are groups 1, 2 and 3. Members of Group 4 and 5 will obviously bring substantial amounts of money to the film on their own, but those first three groups are the ones who will rewatch the film more than anyone else and be the biggest purchasers of the disc and digital copies of the film once they are released.
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    You're forgetting:

    Group 6: Fans of Ben Affleck, who have seen everything from Argo to Phantoms to Daredevil and loved all of them.

    Group 7: Fans of Chris Nolan, who have seen his films religiously, both superhero and otherwise.

    Group 8: Fans of Zack Snyder, who have followed his career since the Dawn of the Dead remake.
  • Seven_Point_Six_FiveSeven_Point_Six_Five Southern California
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    Group 9: My grandma who needs to get out of the house every now and then. She won't understand whats going on in the film and will likely forget to bring her hearing aid, but she will love the film nonetheless.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    You're forgetting:

    Group 6: Fans of Ben Affleck, who have seen everything from Argo to Phantoms to Daredevil and loved all of them.

    Group 7: Fans of Chris Nolan, who have seen his films religiously, both superhero and otherwise.

    Group 8: Fans of Zack Snyder, who have followed his career since the Dawn of the Dead remake.
    Oh, nice pick up, mate.

    Group 10: Women who came for Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck's physiques, and all the gents who came for the likes of Amy Adams and whatever other hot dame they are casting as Bruce's love interest, or even Wonder Woman herself.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Group 11: Kevin Costner fans. :p
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited November 2013 Posts: 15,713
    group 12: Bond fans who want to see Timothy Dalton as Alfred (I heard a rumour about Daltz for that role)*

    *I fit in this, I rented that awful 'the Tourist' movie solely to see those 5 minutes of Dalton screentime :P
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    cant wait for this film. cant believe ther has been so much negativity re: Ben Affleck. Great choice for Batman and will be just as good if not better than prima donna Bale with the stupid voice.
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    the problem is Bale can do a great batman voice play Batman begins the video game or just watch a playthrough on youtube his voice is dark creepy and not over the top yet in the movie... sigh

    Affleck though will be good I have faith... still is weird we are in Ben Affleck batman tenure
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    LeChiffre wrote:
    cant wait for this film. cant believe ther has been so much negativity re: Ben Affleck. Great choice for Batman and will be just as good if not better than prima donna Bale with the stupid voice.

    I think that comes with the role, as no matter who you pick, someone out there will complain. Just like DC as Bond, it'll happen with the next actor chosen as the new James Bond - some will be happy, others will complain. Hard to please everyone.
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    Risico007 wrote:
    looks like Mods will have to change the title

    http://batman-news.com/2013/11/21/warner-bros-registers-domain-names-possible-batman-vs-superman-titles/

    •Man of Steel: Battle the Knight
    •Man of Steel: Beyond Darkness
    •Man of Steel: Black of Knight
    •Man of Steel: Darkness Falls
    •Man of Steel: Knight Falls
    •Man of Steel: Shadow of the Night
    •Man of Steel: The Blackest Hour
    •Man of Steel: The Darkness Within


    wow these are just all bad.. thoughts?


    the least bad would be either

    •Man of Steel: Knight Falls
    •Man of Steel: Shadow of the Night

    the rest are just bland and weird. I get Batman vs superman is simplistic but my god

    They're all pretty rank. 'Knight Falls' isn't bad. The rest are lame.
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    The title needs either the words Batman, Superman or something of that ilk included for the public to know what it is, right off the bat. There's no 007 logo to tag on here. 'World's Finest' is unrelated to everything Superman/Batman released to date. This film will go for brand recognition like everything else, hence one of the newly registered names.

    If the stupid suits and bean counters are concerned about that above all else, then just call it Batman vs. Superman. No other title will put more butts in seats, I assure you. I just fail to see how any of the domain titles are any less ambiguous/confusing as World's Finest. Just once, let's make a decision that benefits/caters to the actual fans of the characters who will have repeat theater viewings of the film in theaters and once it releases on disc and digital formats.

    I have to agree there.

    Man of Steel: Batman v Superman

    I was wondering though, the fact that it's a Superman film should draw in a lot of people anyway. Seeing all the diehard Batman fans will know that Batman will feature in this film anyway, then is it necessary to make it really clear that Batman will be in it too? Will general cinema goers care that much?
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 2,598
    "Great choice for Batman and will be just as good if not better than prima donna Bale with the stupid voice."

    I remember listening to that recording of him freaking out back in 08 or 09. Some guy had distracted him and he really got his knickers in a knot. LOL.
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    Bounine, why did you double post?

    Anyway, you called the film "Man of Steel: Batman Vs. Superman". Why does "Man of Steel" have to be in the title? I don't see any reason for "Man of Steel" to be in the title in anyway, even for the idiots who need a simplified title to understand that the film is a sequel. Everybody knew that "The Dark Knight" was a sequel to "Batman Begins", despite the fact that "Batman" wasn't ahead of the title.
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    Man of Steel: Shadow of the Night this one isn't bad but would prefer it to be

    Man of Steel: Shadow of the Bat
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    Batman/Superman: Heroes United
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    'Man Of Steel: Bruce 'The Dark Knight Batman' Wayne vs. Clark 'Superman Kal-El' Kent'

    That's pretty blunt, let's go with that. ;-)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited November 2013 Posts: 28,694
    I actually just revisited all the Nolan Batman films recently and I found that Bale's voice wasn't as bad as I previously felt it was. There are times where it gets out of hand...

    "WHERE'S THE TRIGGER! WHERE IS IT!"

    ...but on the whole, I wasn't bugged by it at all. I am very biased to those films, however, so who knows. Still, we can't all be Kevin Conroy, can we?
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    I actually just revisited all the Nolan Batman films recently and I found that Bale's voice wasn't as bad as I previously felt it was. There are times where it gets out of hand...

    "WHERE'S THE TRIGGER! WHERE IS IT!"

    ...but on the whole, I wasn't bugged by it at all. I am very biased to those films, however, so who knows. Still, we can't all be Kevin Conroy, can we?

    Or that guy from Beware the Batman.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I actually just revisited all the Nolan Batman films recently and I found that Bale's voice wasn't as bad as I previously felt it was. There are times where it gets out of hand...

    "WHERE'S THE TRIGGER! WHERE IS IT!"

    ...but on the whole, I wasn't bugged by it at all. I am very biased to those films, however, so who knows. Still, we can't all be Kevin Conroy, can we?

    Or that guy from Beware the Batman.

    I haven't seen a single episode of that, but I hope to.
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    There's a couple of websites where you can watch the whole show. watchcartoononline.com is the one I use.
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 2,598
    Bounine, why did you double post?

    Anyway, you called the film "Man of Steel: Batman Vs. Superman". Why does "Man of Steel" have to be in the title? I don't see any reason for "Man of Steel" to be in the title in anyway, even for the idiots who need a simplified title to understand that the film is a sequel. Everybody knew that "The Dark Knight" was a sequel to "Batman Begins", despite the fact that "Batman" wasn't ahead of the title.

    Batman v Superman alone is more catchy. I put MOS in there partly because Warner Brothers seem adamant on having it there but I also kind of like having it at the beginning like with the Star Trek films. I like the consistency and retaining a solid foundation.

    Double post? These new Mi6 forums do strange things to me sometimes.
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    Bounine wrote:
    Bounine, why did you double post?

    Anyway, you called the film "Man of Steel: Batman Vs. Superman". Why does "Man of Steel" have to be in the title? I don't see any reason for "Man of Steel" to be in the title in anyway, even for the idiots who need a simplified title to understand that the film is a sequel. Everybody knew that "The Dark Knight" was a sequel to "Batman Begins", despite the fact that "Batman" wasn't ahead of the title.

    Batman v Superman alone is more catchy. I put MOS in there partly because Sony seem adamant on having it there but I also kind of like having it at the beginning like with the Star Trek films. I like the consistency and retaining a solid foundation.

    Double post? These new Mi6 forums do strange things to me sometimes. It never happened on the original ones.

    You'll have a problem there then as Sony aren't producing this film.
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    Oh, whoever it is then. I don't know why I said Sony. LOL
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    Bounine wrote:
    Oh, whoever it is then. I don't know why I said Sony. LOL

    Bond on the brain! ;-)

    (It's WB by the way)
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    That must be it.

    Original post edited.
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    If it wasn't already taken, I'd say call the film "Clash of the Titans".
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