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I agree about humour. I guess this is a reaction to
A) Batman & Robin:
DC and Warner still haven't fully recovered from all the hate that big 120 minute joke got.
B) Marvel:
Marvel goes for cosy fun (except for X-Men perhaps), so obviously DC has to show us the darker side of the superhero spectrum. And why not? Batman, ever since the late 70s, found its darker tone working better for its readers. The comics went there, the animated stuff went there and the movies, since '05, went there too - successfully I might add.
But as I stated before, some Batman incarnations were able to get the comedy down, albeit in a downplayed way. Keaton is my go-to reference. His facial expressions are precious sometimes. You may be amidst a lot of chaos and madness and the clock may be ticking, but he enjoys sticking some TNT in a guy's pants...
#3: When this happened on screen, I was like "really, this is how this ends?" I didn't like it, it felt too lazy.
#4: Yes, it's nice not spoon-feed the audience, but I feel like they should have explained a few things especially since there aren't any other movies to build up the characters that we saw here. At times I kept thinking if I was the casual audience, I would be lost with what was going on.
#5: I felt that the senate hearing would have been a good way to hear all sides of this story and to hear Superman speak against all that was being said about him. Sadly that didn't happen.
However here is her points
2. Way too unrealistic: She has said she prefers Bond movies over the one batman film she has seen because at least with 007 it's kind of plausible (though she didn't like the last two she did like Casino royale Quantum of Solace and Live and let die and that is as much as she has seen) with Batman t was way too unrealistic and honestly throw as much pseudoscience as you want I have to agree with her slightly. adding doomsday in with no real explanation of how and why could be a bit Jarring for someone who Loves only John Hughes films, Rom Coms and Across the universe (though I am slowly getting her to branch out) As for how to do it again the explanation of doomsday could of come after the trinity fight him.
3. Ben Affleck was good as batman: She liked him she actually liked him which I am happy with. While she won't be excited for Affleck's solo batman film she will watch it with me.
4. It was Better then How to stay single in New York: THIS IS HUGE for me she preffered it over a rom com is just fantastic.
Over all this film is still good and more then likely the best of the year for me
Though I will be of course seeing Suicide Squad, Star Wars Rogue One X men Apocalypse and Batman V Superman the marvel version... I mean Captain America Civil war (I actually re watched the second trailer for Civil war... yeah it's the same damn plot I mean EXACTLY the same as Batman v Superman)
As for what is really exciting me now I turn my attention to television Night manger in two weeks and MacGyver in the fall.
From reading her comments in your post I think you should try to persuade her to watch the Nolan Batman films. If she feels 007 is 'sort of plausible' compared to BvS, then I'm confident she will have a much higher opinion of the Nolan trilogy. In fact, she may enjoy it, especially Batman Begins.
PS: I'm not surprised she preferred BvS to How to Stay Single. Even though I haven't seen that work of genius (cough) yet, I'm certain any comic book film will be superior to something starring Rebel Wilson
Eh? The film is at 681 million WW with a budget of over 400 million (including Marketing), has no competition and people were/are on holiday break. This film is a disaster financially. The Force Awakens hit $1 billion in 12 days and Jurassic World hit $1 billion in 13 days. This is batman and superman in the same movie. The numbers are an overwhelming and embarrassing disappointment. This won't even make 350 million domestic.
Jungle book is released this week in some territories and that movie is already got serious positive buzz and is going to really slit BvS' throat and with civil war circling, when it dives in it's going to rip BvS' financial opportunity into shreds. It's practically game over for BvS and they'll be lucky to make it to 850 million!
So you will take anything and turn it into a negative lmao....
No I'm just stating the facts and the reality of the situation. Anyone can take these results and spin it to make it look good to those who don't know better but the truth and reality is, this film was supposed to carry so much weight and create a massive favourable impact for WB/DC but this film isn't even divisive it's been panned across the board and is a critical flop and a financial disappointment.
WB's marketing team deserve a raise to be fair because they've done an excellent job with their damage control but unfortunately the figures are there for all to see. The numbers don't lie. This film was so heavily frontloaded with huge ticket sales coming from pre-bookings. This film was always going to open big and the first 2 weeks are critical for any movie but word of mouth on a global level has been harmful to this movie and we're seeing this now.
This film should easily have been able to make a billion dollars; it'll be lucky to make 850 million and if it does, there's no guarantee that it would break even with its theatrical run. Make no mistake there are going to be some serious reshuffling with DCEU's movie slate and executive positions at WB HQ.
Which Scares me honestly as I fear Affleck's solo Batman film will be a bland Batman vs Joker story to "play it safe" and also the last time DC/WB tried to shift things to please the masses we got these
so yeah I almost would preffer they stick with their guns because... I don't want Schumacher back. No I would take Snyder directing the next 10 Batman films over that
This is a classic real time case study that Branding is so bloody important and that just because your name is superman or batman or spider-man or James Bond or whoever, your name will only carry so much weight, you actually have to be good!
Seriously, Ant-Man, GoTg...who the hell are they compared to superman and batman...but guess what? Marvel put in the time to earn the trust of the GA, stengthened and legitimised their brand and people went out to see these movies. Marvel can make a movie about Squirrel girl and it'll be a success because they know wtf they're doing.
Add Deadpool to the aforementioned...all comparatively obscure comic book characters to the GA who got their own movies and were critical and financial successes all because the people behind them put in the care and work to entertain the masses and not a sub section of people within an already minority group of people (fanbase). WB/DC failed to do this.
Again, how do you mess up a film with batman and superman in it, especially when you have more than 70 years worth of source material to draw from? This film butchered it's characters, was tonally imbalanced and was just horribly written. Apparently, Snyder made a 6 hour cut! Why in the hell would you make a 6 hour movie, knowing it's going to be cut down to about 2 and a half hours, meaning there are going to be some serious and likely pivotal footage omitted from the theatrical cut...now because of the success of Deadpool, there's talk of releasing an R-rated version of BvS...it's ridiculous that BvS should even have an R-rated version. WB are acting scatter-brained.
Sometimes, an investment will pay off in the long run. BvS will reach that 850 mill, it will break even and it will continue to make money afterwards. But yeah, these ridiculous budgets are unnecessary. A few minutes less of extravaganza do not a worse film make... or something wise sounding like that. ;-)
If a good movie lives up to the hype, its nothing but skips and smiles all the way to the bank.
Yes, but the comic book market is, in America, a niche market. The general public had no idea who Deadpool was before the movie. In fact, at the time the first X-Men movie was released, there were reporters who couldn't believe that a comic book they've never heard about was outselling Superman or Batman. Or that there were still comics being made, simply because they didn't see any in drugstores or supermarkets anymore, everything being now sold in specialty stores.
If he could he would throw out BvS this Wednesday (limit to screenings only on the weekend) but he can't, as there are contracts with the distributor. He'll limit BvS to one screening a day from Thursday on.
London Has Fallen sold more tickets last weekend.
Your friend has the right idea. In China, this thing is flopping exceptionally hard and they've cut the number of screens almost down to zero because BvS will just lose them money. No one's paying to see this thing so why keep it around? That image I posted of people talking about empty screens from all over the world is an endless nightmare for WB.
Even with a major drop second week, I think it is not going to cause loss of sleep for producers.
sigh I don't want DC to retool I really don't if Affleck does only batman V Superman I will be EXTREMLY pissed.
JL is almost a guaranteed money grave, only die hard DC fans will go and see it next year, and after that it's probably over for the planned series of films.
I LOVE the Scooby Batman team ups!
How much is Disney paying you honestly? Just want to point out a few things
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/04/03/batman-v-superman-box-office-dawn-of-justice-tops-man-of-steel-with-681m-worldwide-cume/#5d4cef37504f
to sumn up the article in simple terms
Batman V superman has currently out grossed
X-men (2000)
X-men 2
X men 3
X-men First Class
X Men Origins Wolverine
The Wolverine
Fantastic 4
Fantastic 4 2 rise of silver surfer
Fantastic 4 reboot
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Spider man
Spider man 2
Spider man 3
The Amazing Spider Man
The Amazing Spiderman 2
Ghost rider
Ghost Rider 2
And I am pretty sure it has also out grossed (though I don't have the figures
Daredevel
Elektra
Blade 1-3
Batman 1-4 (the Burton Schumacher era) and possibly even Batman begins
we really want to start talking about bombs in a month from now BVS could easily over take X-men days of future past AND Deadpool and make a billion. I am seeing it Saturday for a third time!
They needed an Iron Man equivalent to start things rolling properly and they didn't have it. This was their 2nd choice option (imho) which was to frontload the character introductions (hopefully successfully) and then branch out from there.
I think where they may have made a mistake is rolling out 3 combo ensemble pieces in a row (BvS, Suicide Squade & JL). They should have picked one of BvS or JL and then done the solo films directly after that. Retire Supes (as a standalone) for a while.
Box office doesn't mean anything if there is no or only little profit.
BvS was supposed to do 1.5 to 2 billion.
It becomes a monetary grave.
I'm going to remember the words of Kevin Smith: people think they know about Hollywood business, but they don't.