SPECTRE: It grossed $880 Million Worldwide (..and 2015 was the biggest box office year so far)

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  • "Yes, but so many other rankings on various big movie websites put "SPECTRE" on 1st, 2nd spot or give it a spot in the TOP 5 ;-).
  • edited January 2015 Posts: 11,119
    It's the end of 2014, so time to come up with the "Most anticipated 2015 ranking list" from various websites. In brackets the ranking of "SPECTRE"):

    Mashable.com, divided into genres:
    http://mashable.com/2014/12/21/movies-2015/
    action/thriller movies:
    #03: "Furious 7"
    #01: "SPECTRE"

    bestmoviesever.com, TOP 24, divided into sub genres:
    http://bestmoviesevernews.com/next-best-movies-ever-highly-anticipated-movies-2015/
    Shared #01st places:
    #01: "SPECTRE" ("Directors We Love") AHAA, Bond is not just action for action sake ;-)
    #01: "Furious 7" ("Action For Action’s Sake")
    #01: "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens" ("The New (Old) Franchises")
    #01: "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron" ("Superhero Sagas")
    #01: "The Hunger Games 4: Mockingjay – Part 2" ("For the Young Adults)
    #01: "Inside Out" ("Family Fare")
    #01: "Fifty Shades Of Grey" ("Last But Not Least")

    Ranker.com, TOP 10:
    http://www.ranker.com/list/most-anticipated-movies-of-2015/crisdesousa3
    #08: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #01: "SPECTRE"

    FirstShowing.net, TOP 20:
    http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/looking-ahead-alex-ethans-20-most-anticipated-movies-of-2015/
    action/thriller movies only:
    #06: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #02: "SPECTRE"

    ContactMusic.com, TOP 10:
    http://www.contactmusic.com/round-up/contactmusic-com-s-10-most-anticipated-films-of-2015_4516450
    action only:
    #02: "SPECTRE"

    Slashfilm.com, TOP 20 (Angie Han):
    http://www.slashfilm.com/angie-anticipated-films-2015/3/
    #15: "Spy"
    #02: "SPECTRE"

    Stokesentinel.co.uk, newspaper, TOP 10:
    http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/10-anticipated-films-2015/story-25782401-detail/story.html
    action/thriller movies only:
    #02: "SPECTRE"

    MSN.com, TOP 45 (!!):
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/gallery/movies-to-watch-in-2015/ss-BBh79Jy#image=43
    #33: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #24: "Furious 7"
    #19: "Run All Night"
    #05: "Point Break"
    #03: "SPECTRE"

    IMDB's Moviemeter: Most Popular Movies 2015:
    http://www.imdb.com/search/title?year=2015,2015&title_type=feature&sort=moviemeter,asc
    action/thriller films:
    #18: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #17: "Taken 3"
    #15: "Furious 7"
    #03: "SPECTRE"

    HitFix "TOP 22 Most Anticipated Movies of 2015 - POLL:
    http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/2015s-most-anticipated-movies-from-star-wars-to-spectre
    #03: "SPECTRE"
    #02: "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron"
    #01: "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens"

    From Perez Hilton's weblog:
    http://perezhilton.com/2015-01-01-most-anticipated-movies-2015-avengers-star-wars-50-shades-of-grey
    #03: "SPECTRE"

    The Examiner, TOP 15:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/the-year-ahead-my-15-most-anticipated-films-of-2015
    action/thriller/spy films:
    honorable mentions:
    --> "Blackhat"
    --> "Spy"
    --> "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    top 15:
    #07: "Furious 7"
    #05: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #03: "SPECTRE"

    IBtimes.co.uk, TOP 3 in no order:
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/tv/avengers-star-wars-spectre-most-anticipated-films-2015-13122
    --> "SPECTRE
    --> "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron"
    --> "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens"

    411Mania.com, TOP 8:
    http://411mania.com/movies/the-8-ball-top-8-most-anticipated-films-of-2015/
    "It’s not a surprise to anyone if I say that the James Bond franchise has been a big upswing since the series rebooted with Casino Royale."
    action/espionage/thriller only:
    #04: "SPECTRE"

    ComicBookMovie.com, TOP 10 (by Ignition):
    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ignition/news/?a=112740
    action/espionage/comic only:
    #09: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #04: "SPECTRE"

    DigitalSpy.co.uk, TOP 10:
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a618046/jonathan-ross-picks-top-movies-for-2015-as-new-british-airways-critic.html#~oZh4tzzxG72GkW
    action/thriller movies only:
    #10: "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    #04: "SPECTRE"
    #01: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"

    HitFix "TOP 40 Most Anticipated Movies of 2015":
    http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/2015s-most-anticipated-movies-from-star-wars-to-spectre . I have shortened the list down below by only including action/spy/thriller/spy-spoof films ánd the TOP 5:
    #40: "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    #31: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #26: "Furious 7"
    #24: "Spy"
    #21: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #12: "St. James Place" (Coen Brothers/Steven Spielberg cold war spy thriller)
    #05: "Bond 24: SPECTRE" (only non-sci-fi, non-fantasy film in the TOP 5)
    #04: "Mad Max 2: Fury Road"
    #03: "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron"
    #02: "Tomorrowland"
    #01: "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens"

    MovieFanatic.com, TOP 15:
    http://www.moviefanatic.com/slideshows/15-most-anticipated-movies-of-2015/spectre-november-6/
    action/thriller/spy movies only:
    #13: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #07: "St. James Place"
    #06: "Furious 7"
    #05: "SPECTRE"
    The author: "After Skyfall (easily one of our top 3 James Bond movies), expectations could not be higher for the follow-up. The fact that the team is pretty much back for the next chapter, including Sam Mendes as director, and James Bond 24 makes our list of most anticipated. But, when they announced that Spectre was the title and that, for us Bond fanatics, recalls the spy’s golden era, well, that just sent us into the stratosphere"

    iKnowToday.com, TOP 5:
    http://www.iknowtoday.com/2014/12/22/top-5-highly-anticipated-movies-2015/
    Only action movie in it:
    #05: "SPECTRE"

    MovieInsider.com, Most Anticipated Movies 2015 poll:
    http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/anticipated/2015/
    action/thriller:
    #18: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #07: "SPECTRE"
    #03: "Furious 7"

    Craveonline.com, TOP 15:
    http://www.craveonline.com/film/articles/803305-15-anticipated-films-2015#/slide/9
    action/thriller movies only:
    #15: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #07: "SPECTRE"
    #06: "Furious 7"

    ComicBookMovie.com, TOP 10 (by Captain Obvious)
    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_age_of_ultron/news/?a=112959
    Remember, this is a comic book movie website. The author: "I don’t consider myself a James Bond fan. I haven’t seen a lot of the films in the franchise, so I just go into each one expecting to be entertained. However, Skyfall was one of my favorite films of 2012 and I’m excited to the follow-up has in store, especially since it is bringing up the cast and creative team behind Skyfall"
    action/thriller movies only...then only this one is mentioned:
    #07: "SPECTRE"

    MSTARZ.com, TOP 10:
    http://www.mstarz.com/articles/45078/20141224/anticipated-movies-2015-check-out-top-10-list-biggest-blockbusters.htm
    action/thriller movies only:
    #10: "Furious 7"
    #07: "SPECTRE"

    Movieviral.com, TOP 20 (TOP 26 including honorable mentions):
    http://www.movieviral.com/2014/12/22/top-20-most-anticipated-movies-of-2015/4/
    action/thriller movies only:
    #26: "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    #23: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #17: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #09: "SPECTRE"
    #07: "Furious 7"

    Hypable.com, TOP 20:
    http://www.hypable.com/2014/12/26/2015-most-anticpated-movies/2/
    action movies only:
    #17: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #10: "SPECTRE"
    #09: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #06: "St. James Place"

    Madamenoire.com, TOP 13 (women website, no mention of "Star Wars"):
    http://madamenoire.com/498525/2015-movies/5/
    not many action thrillers mentioned:
    #13: "Furious 7"
    #10: "SPECTRE"

    Slashfilm.com, TOP 20 (Russ Fischer):
    http://www.slashfilm.com/russ-anticipated-movies-2015/
    #16: "SPECTRE"
    No other action movies in the list

    Slashfilm.com, TOP 20 (Peter Sciretta):
    http://www.slashfilm.com/peters-anticipated-movies-2015/2/
    Obviously, no real lover of action/espionage, but "SPECTRE" is ranked highest:
    #38: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #30: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #27: "Furious 7"
    #22: "SPECTRE"

    Screencrush.com, list of 25 movies in no order:
    http://screencrush.com/most-anticipated-movies-2015/
    Following action/espionage/thriller movies mentioned:
    --> "SPECTRE"
    --> "Furious 7"
    --> "Spy"
    --> "St. James Place"
    --> "Mission: Impossible 5"

    SanAntonio.com, list of 20 movies in no order:
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertainment/movies-tv/article/20-movies-we-can-t-wait-to-watch-in-2015-5951555.php#photo-7259675
    --> "SPECTRE"
    --> "Mission: Impossible 5"
    --> "Furious 7"

    PopularMechanics.com, list of 15 movies in no order:
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/digital/visual-effects/15-sci-fi-movies-most-anticipated-in-2015#slide-12
    Only action/spy/thriller movies:
    --> "SPECTRE"
    --> "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    --> "Mission: Impossible 5"
    --> "Furious 7"

    From The Times Of India newspaper, TOP 12 Most Anticipated Bollywood&Hollywood movies:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Bollywood-and-Hollywood-sequels-to-dominate-2015/articleshow/45676266.cms
    4 "Bollywood" movies, 8 "Hollywood" movies. Only one, more or less, "realistic" action thriller mentioned (no fantasy, no sci-fi), and that is:
    --> "SPECTRE"

    Bustle.com
    http://www.bustle.com/articles/54869-the-16-most-exciting-movies-coming-out-in-2015
    Mentioned under the header "The Reliable Next Chapters":
    "We never go too many years in a row without a new Bond movie, and "SPECTRE" promises all the enchanting chutzpah we saw in Sam Mendes’ last turn at the 007 wheel. Likewise, there hasn’t been an odd year since 2007 that didn’t give us a Fast and Furious film, and Furious 7 is coming up fast in 2015. Granted, this is a bittersweet arrival, as it will mark the last time we see the recently deceased Paul Walker onscreen. But one last chapter of his long-running racing series seems to be an appropriate way to seal the actor’s legacy."

    Cinemablend.com:
    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Our-15-Most-Anticipated-Movies-2015-68943-p10.html
    15 most anicipated movies of 2015 in order of premiere dates:
    "Craig has had an impressive run as 007 so far, rebooting the long-running franchise with the lean and mean Casino Royale while also delivering the smash hit Skyfall. (Let’s all ignore Quantum of Solace, which was decimated by the terrible writers’ strike.) Spectre gets off to a GREAT start by luring Skyfall director Sam Mendes back into the fold. And so far, we love the casting of Christoph Waltz and Dave Bautista as Bond baddies."

    CNBC.com:
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289850#.
    "Assured box office monsters could be: "Star Wars: Episode VII — The Force Awakens," "Jurassic World," "Furious 7," "Avengers: Age of Ultron," "Fifty Shades of Grey," the James Bond film "SPECTRE" and animated entries like "Minions" and Pixar's "Inside Out."
  • Quite nice list eh ;-)?
  • Posts: 6,601
    i think all this rambling now will only push the film.
  • Germanlady wrote: »
    i think all this rambling now will only push the film.

    In what way if I may ask :-). Will it push the film down...or up?

  • edited January 2015 Posts: 11,119
    Filmonic.com just made a box office predicition for "SPECTRE": http://filmonic.com/box-office-2015-preview-part-2-age-star-wars . And in a very competitive year, that 2015 will be, "SPECTRE" comes in at #03:
    01) 1.60 Billion: "Avengers 2"
    02) 1.50 Billion: "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens"
    03) 1.10 Billion: "SPECTRE"
    04) 900 Million: "Furious 7"
    05) 850 Million: "The Hunger Hames 4"
    06) 800 Million: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    07) 700 Million: "Ted 2"
    08) 600 Million: "Minions"
    09) 550 Million: "The Good Dinosaur"
    10) 500 Million: "Jurassic World"


    Compared with my earlier predicition on the previous page:

    The potential "1 Billion"-ers. And I'm gonna be bold:
    01) 1.60 - 1.80 Billion: "Avengers 2"
    02) 1.25 - 1.30 Billion: "SPECTRE" (There is no real competition in the same genre for this one. It'll tab basically the entire audience from "TDK", from "Bond" lovers, fans of certain actors like Waltz - Tarantino, Bautista - Marvel, the title reveal is the best ever, creating lots of mystery and gossip, and it rides the waves of "Skyfall")
    03) 1.10 - 1.25 Billion: "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens" (Wun-der-ful marketing)
    04) 1.05 - 1.10 Billion: "Furious 7" (This is gonna be big with Walker's absence)
    05) 1.00 - 1.05 Billion: "Minions" (these jumped up little sh*t figures...even I love them ;-))
    Grossing over 750 Million Dollars:
    06) 800 - 975 Million: "Cinderella" (First big one of 2015, indeed the brand Disney is as big as Bond and Marvel. Buena Vista must be the most happy movie company in the world now, as they own Disney, Marvel and Pixar)
    07) 750 - 900 Million: "The Hunger Hames 4"
    08) 750 - 825 Million: "Mission Impossible 5"
    09) 700 - 875 Million: "Inside Out" (Pixar movie....but among animated movies franchises do it better)
    10) 650 - 725 Million: "Jurassic World"

    Regarding "SPECTRE", I think it will have a massive opening weekend in the USA. At least over 110 Million.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    I really don't see Spectre doing more than The Force Awakens, seriously can anyone see this being the case?

    This films is seriously anticipated, wait till the next trailer drops, the anticipation will go through the roof. Disney know how derided the prequels are they've spent 4 billion dollars on this franchise, this film will not suck and JJ Abrahams will deliver, I can see it topping possibly Avengers personally.
  • Shardlake wrote: »
    I really don't see Spectre doing more than The Force Awakens, seriously can anyone see this being the case?

    This films is seriously anticipated, wait till the next trailer drops, the anticipation will go through the roof. Disney know how derided the prequels are they've spent 4 billion dollars on this franchise, this film will not suck and JJ Abrahams will deliver, I can see it topping possibly Avengers personally.

    You could be right. But so far I think "Avengers 2" will do slightly better. It could be a real battle between Avengers and Star Wars.

    Having said that, I think "SPECTRE" is certain of doing another 1 Billion Dollar worldwide. I can't see "SPECTRE" outside the TOP 3 of best earning movies globally in 2015.
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    "SPECTRE" is now a "1 Billion Dollar candidate" according to Empire Magazine: http://www.empireonline.com/features/2015-movie-preview/p2
    movie-preview-2015.jpg
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    My feeling is that the long term success of SP will depend very heavily on good word of mouth. I've no doubt it will have a huge opening, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it broke opening day records in the UK, but the strength of its overall figures will rely on the masses who lap it up in that opening week spreading the word and returning multiple times themselves. The success of SF has teed it up, it's up to Mendes to hit it out of the park. Let's see if SP can succeed where QoS ultimately failed.
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    My feeling is that the long term success of SP will depend very heavily on good word of mouth. I've no doubt it will have a huge opening, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it broke opening day records in the UK, but the strength of its overall figures will rely on the masses who lap it up in that opening week spreading the word and returning multiple times themselves. The success of SF has teed it up, it's up to Mendes to hit it out of the park. Let's see if SP can succeed where QoS ultimately failed.

    I completely agree with you on this one. SF really had "wings" way into December. And it managed to re-grab 1st spot at the box office during that month. The movie had a strong, very strong, holdover, mainly due to strong worth of mouth. Don't forget, like CR.....also SF got raving reviews.

    December 2015 might be a bit different though. "Star Wars 7" premieres on December 18th. So it would be great if SP can manage to maintain a TOP 2 spot in the US box office the week before, December 11th. But after that, I think SP could be "eaten" by both "Star Wars 7" and "M:I 5".

    I expect a huge opening anyway. At least more than 105 Million in the US. And after that it is indeed about good word of mouth. It's the key towards surpassing the $304 Million in the US. Strong reviews and word of mouth? $325 Million should be possible. If it can't compete with "Wars" and "M:I 5", and if the reviews are slightly lacklustre, then SP might struggle to reach the $300 Million in the US.

    The key towards global success, and the key to surpassing the 1.1 Billion Dollar globally that SF earned, lies in China I think. SF slightly underperformed there with a meager $59 Million. SP should be able to improve there. As SP will perhaps be slightly more "outlandish" and fun, I don't think that's a difficult task.

    One last thing, SP is benefitting from one important assett: Sam Mendes. His "brand name" is pretty big and most people look forward to this Bond film, because Sam Mendes is back.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2014 Posts: 23,883
    I agree that SP should handily beat SF's China gross. SF did very poorly (I don't buy this argument that the Chinese were offended that they were portrayed poorly.....no nation can be that sensitive and the portrayal was not that bad).

    In my estimation, the reason it did poorly is two fold:

    1. it was released too late in that country (almost 3 months after the UK release date). This is the major reason IMO
    2. it needed more action (the Chinese market adores high stakes action in their movies - I don't think they appreciate all the slow, nuanced stuff that other markets like...they prefer more in your face action like Fast and Furious)

    As an example, Mi4 (a movie with lots of in-your face action), released a yr before SF, took in $101M in China vs. SF's $59M take (67% better).

    I think # 1. above is addressed for SP, since it is being released simultaneously from what I know. # 2 (the action) has to be 'up there' though for it to do signifantly better.

    As has been said before, SP's overall gross is going to very much depend on the US$ exchange rate vs. other major currencies at the end of 2015, since the overall take is measured at the end of the day in US$, and a higher US$ exchange rate will reduce the gross in other currencies, converted back to US$ for overall measurement purposes. Bonds traditionally take in roughly 70% (a huge %) of their total gross from markets outside US/Canada, so the relative exchange rate is very important.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2014 Posts: 10,591
    Does anyone know what happened with the whole "pushing the release date to a global release date of November 6th" situation?

    I think the world premier will be held on October 23rd in London, but the actual release date for the film in the U.K. and other countries is November 6th, although if you look at the release dates section on IMDB, it says that the U.K. date is October 23rd, and the rest are November 6th, with the exception of Brazil on November 12th.

    I actually think that moving the film's release date to a global one can benefit and increase SPECTRE's overall box office intake.
  • jake24 wrote: »
    Does anyone know what happened with the whole "pushing the release date to a global release date of November 6th" situation?

    I think the world premier will be held on October 23rd in London, but the actual release date for the film in the U.K. and other countries is November 6th, although if you look at the release dates section on IMDB, it says that the U.K. date is October 23rd, and the rest are November 6th, with the exception of Brazil on November 12th.

    I actually think that moving the film's release date to a global one can benefit and increase SPECTRE's overall box office intake.

    It is confirmed that "SPECTRE" will have a truly global release this time around. In, almost, every country across the globe (UK, USA, Netherlands, Russia, Singapore, Indonesia) it'll premiere on November 6th. I don't know if James Bond ever had a truly global release before? Anyone?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    How do you feel the global release date might affect the overall box office intake?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2014 Posts: 23,883
    It is confirmed that "SPECTRE" will have a truly global release this time around. In, almost, every country across the globe (UK, USA, Netherlands, Russia, Singapore, Indonesia) it'll premiere on November 6th. I don't know if James Bond ever had a truly global release before? Anyone?

    No, to my knowledge they have never gone with this kind of release strategy before. In my opinion, this is the way to go, especially after SF. Since the pent-up demand for Bond will be huge, if they stagger the release, all that's going to happen is more pirating and therefore less box office gross eventually.

    So they have no choice. They have to "front load" this time......like a Michael Jackson album release when he was on top of the world in the late 80's/early 90's
  • jake24 wrote: »
    How do you feel the global release date might affect the overall box office intake?

    It will only be beneficiary I think. Now the USA can't check what the UK thought of the film.

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    jake24 wrote: »
    How do you feel the global release date might affect the overall box office intake?

    It will only be beneficiary I think. Now the USA can't check what the UK thought of the film.

    Agreed. The expectancy level is high and the rewards can be high. If they nail the film and SW7 receives middling reviews SP will do very well. Bond appears to be dining at the top table again regards BO. I think the only two things stopping SP achieving big numbers are A) Lack of positive word of mouth and B) positive word of mouth/reviews for SW7. If SW suffers Interstellar type reviews then, assuming Mendes delivers, SP can tear up the BO next Nov/Dec.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2014 Posts: 23,883
    RC7 wrote: »
    If SW suffers Interstellar type reviews then, assuming Mendes delivers, SP can tear up the BO next Nov/Dec.

    True, but it's unlikely. SW is coming off the back of the atrocious prequels. Therefore it can only get positive reviews, which is what I think is going to happen.

    SP can still do well even if SW is well reviewed. Ultimately, SP has to stand on its own - and that is up to Mendes clearly. I'm sure the cast will deliver, but all the pressure is on Mendes to hit it out of the park. We waited one long extra year for him, so he'd better earn his paycheque with this one.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    RC7 wrote: »
    My feeling is that the long term success of SP will depend very heavily on good word of mouth. I've no doubt it will have a huge opening, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it broke opening day records in the UK, but the strength of its overall figures will rely on the masses who lap it up in that opening week spreading the word and returning multiple times themselves. The success of SF has teed it up, it's up to Mendes to hit it out of the park. Let's see if SP can succeed where QoS ultimately failed.

    I completely agree with you on this one. SF really had "wings" way into December. And it managed to re-grab 1st spot at the box office during that month. The movie had a strong, very strong, holdover, mainly due to strong worth of mouth. Don't forget, like CR.....also SF got raving reviews.

    December 2015 might be a bit different though. "Star Wars 7" premieres on December 18th. So it would be great if SP can manage to maintain a TOP 2 spot in the US box office the week before, December 11th. But after that, I think SP could be "eaten" by both "Star Wars 7" and "M:I 5".

    I expect a huge opening anyway. At least more than 105 Million in the US. And after that it is indeed about good word of mouth. It's the key towards surpassing the $304 Million in the US. Strong reviews and word of mouth? $325 Million should be possible. If it can't compete with "Wars" and "M:I 5", and if the reviews are slightly lacklustre, then SP might struggle to reach the $300 Million in the US.

    The key towards global success, and the key to surpassing the 1.1 Billion Dollar globally that SF earned, lies in China I think. SF slightly underperformed there with a meager $59 Million. SP should be able to improve there. As SP will perhaps be slightly more "outlandish" and fun, I don't think that's a difficult task.

    One last thing, SP is benefitting from one important assett: Sam Mendes. His "brand name" is pretty big and most people look forward to this Bond film, because Sam Mendes is back.

    Yes! Well said. China is critical to securing that 1 billion dollar status. Although SF did brilliantly overall, I remember that China's criticism of SF was that the action just didn't deliver and because of that they felt underwhelmed by the movie not coming up to expectation. In all honesty I agree with them. Outside of the PTS the action for me in SF is the worst of the Craig era and I think based on what we know from the script and the hiring of Olivier Schnieder and his team to choreograph and stage the fights Mendes is going to potentially deliver some of the best action and excitement in the series' history. Also taking into account China as a location nit being involved where the worry of causing of offence won't be an issue, SPECTRE will do BIG business in China, more so than what SF was able to do. I've got my Bollinger ready.

  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    doubleoego wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    My feeling is that the long term success of SP will depend very heavily on good word of mouth. I've no doubt it will have a huge opening, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if it broke opening day records in the UK, but the strength of its overall figures will rely on the masses who lap it up in that opening week spreading the word and returning multiple times themselves. The success of SF has teed it up, it's up to Mendes to hit it out of the park. Let's see if SP can succeed where QoS ultimately failed.

    I completely agree with you on this one. SF really had "wings" way into December. And it managed to re-grab 1st spot at the box office during that month. The movie had a strong, very strong, holdover, mainly due to strong worth of mouth. Don't forget, like CR.....also SF got raving reviews.

    December 2015 might be a bit different though. "Star Wars 7" premieres on December 18th. So it would be great if SP can manage to maintain a TOP 2 spot in the US box office the week before, December 11th. But after that, I think SP could be "eaten" by both "Star Wars 7" and "M:I 5".

    I expect a huge opening anyway. At least more than 105 Million in the US. And after that it is indeed about good word of mouth. It's the key towards surpassing the $304 Million in the US. Strong reviews and word of mouth? $325 Million should be possible. If it can't compete with "Wars" and "M:I 5", and if the reviews are slightly lacklustre, then SP might struggle to reach the $300 Million in the US.

    The key towards global success, and the key to surpassing the 1.1 Billion Dollar globally that SF earned, lies in China I think. SF slightly underperformed there with a meager $59 Million. SP should be able to improve there. As SP will perhaps be slightly more "outlandish" and fun, I don't think that's a difficult task.

    One last thing, SP is benefitting from one important assett: Sam Mendes. His "brand name" is pretty big and most people look forward to this Bond film, because Sam Mendes is back.

    Yes! Well said. China is critical to securing that 1 billion dollar status. Although SF did brilliantly overall, I remember that China's criticism of SF was that the action just didn't deliver and because of that they felt underwhelmed by the movie not coming up to expectation. In all honesty I agree with them. Outside of the PTS the action for me in SF is the worst of the Craig era and I think based on what we know from the script and the hiring of Olivier Schnieder and his team to choreograph and stage the fights Mendes is going to potentially deliver some of the best action and excitement in the series' history. Also taking into account China as a location nit being involved where the worry of causing of offence won't be an issue, SPECTRE will do BIG business in China, more so than what SF was able to do. I've got my Bollinger ready.

    Regarding the gross figures, absolutely. Just take for example this year's "Transformers" movie. It did better in China than in the US: $301 Million in China versus $245 Million in the USA. Take China's gross away, and "Transformers" would 'only' got a worldwide gross of $787 Million, instead of the current $1.087 Billion. Just an example how important China has become.

    Even Sony's "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" almost secured $100 Million in China. "Skyfall"s gross in China, $59 Million, suddenly looks like a huge disappointment.

    BUT I disagree that "Skyfall" had the worst action sequences of the Daniel Craig era. Moreover, do we really give in to China for the argument's sake of "more action"? QOS had way more action, but for me it felt rather flat...and didn't really enhance plot or story.

    More action? Perhaps. But only if the action makes sense within the screenplay and plot. I don't want a China-obsessed approach. I want foremost a good film, in which story, acting, characters, originality anddd action are perfectly balanced. Having sad that, and looking at the success of "Transformers" (what a piece of shit is that!), I don't mind "SPECTRE" to do less than 1 Billion.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Yeah it really puts things into perspective. SF'S 54 million compared to Transformer's 300 million bloody hell! Even if you subtract 3 costs from that that's still a fat figure. I'm confident SPECTRE will blow the socks off everyone in general and even if it can double what SF made in China that's good enough for me. I can't wait for the trailer to hit just to get a taste of how awesome this movie will be.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    I could care less about star wars these days. It's been done. Bond is the big deal for me in 2015.
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    YES, the HitFlix "TOP 40 Most Anticipated Movies of 2015" is online :-D! Good news for "SPECTRE": http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/2015s-most-anticipated-movies-from-star-wars-to-spectre . I have shortened the list down below by only including action/spy/thriller/spy-spoof films ánd the TOP 5:

    #40: "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
    #31: "Mission: Impossible 5"
    #26: "Furious 7"
    #24: "Spy"
    #21: "Kingsman: The Secret Service"
    #12: "St. James Place" (Coen Brothers/Steven Spielberg cold war spy thriller)
    #05: "Bond 24: SPECTRE" (only non-sci-fi, non-fantasy film in the TOP 5)
    #04: "Mad Max 2: Fury Road"
    #03: "Avengers 2: Age Of Ultron"
    #02: "Tomorrowland"
    #01: "Star Wars 7: The Force Awakens"

    Also important to note, in the attached HitFlix-poll "SPECTRE" is on 3rd place, only behind "Avengers 2" and "Star Wars 7". I'm still not sure which movie will do better: SW or Avengers. But I think I'm changing my opinion soon.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Well it's nice to know how highly anticipated SPECTRE is. The good thing about this Sony hacking issue is the unintentional free publicity the movie is getting. This movie has a lot to live up to and I have faith they will deliver.
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Well it's nice to know how highly anticipated SPECTRE is. The good thing about this Sony hacking issue is the unintentional free publicity the movie is getting. This movie has a lot to live up to and I have faith they will deliver.

    Here's also a nice, newly posted "Anticipated Movies List": http://411mania.com/movies/the-8-ball-top-8-most-anticipated-films-of-2015/

    I agree with you that this Sony hack in the long end has some publicity advantages. "SPECTRE" has been in the news already way more since Dec. 4th...compared to "Skyfall" since that movie got its shoot-off in November.

    I also think, marketing/money-wise, it was a wunderful coup from Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson to get Sam Mendes back. He's getting a director cult status like Christopher Nolan. Nothing wrong with that... :-)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited December 2014 Posts: 4,520
    "Star Wars" Is 2015's Most Anticipated

    http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/35233/-star-wars-is-2015-s-most-anticipated
    By Garth Franklin Tuesday December 30th 2014 11:59AM
    "Star Wars" Is 2015's Most Anticipated

    Unsurprisingly, J.J. Abrams' "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" topped a recent survey of over 1,000 people this month by Fandango about the most anticipated films of 2015.

    The new entry in the 'Star Wars' series came in number one, beating out "Avengers: Age of Ultron," "The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2," "Fifty Shades of Grey" and "Jurassic World" which made up the rest of the top five.

    The survey also conducts a poll of the most anticipated family film of the year with the "Despicable Me" spin-off "Minions" topping that list. Not far behind are Disney's "Cinderella," Pixar's "Inside Out," the "Peanuts" movie, and Joe Wright's "Pan".

    Jennifer Lawrence, Scarlett Johansson, Angelina Jolie, Melissa McCarthy and Halle Berry topped a fan favorite actress list in the poll, while Robert Downey Jr., Chris Hemsworth, Daniel Craig, Chris Pratt and Tom Cruise topped the fan favorite actors poll. Source: Fandango
  • Yes, and that poll didn't mention "Bond 24". Instead those 1000+ interviewees saw/heard "SPECTRE" and couldn't relate it to Bond. How trustworthy :-P.
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 7,653
    Yes, and that poll didn't mention "Bond 24". Instead those 1000+ interviewees saw/heard "SPECTRE" and couldn't relate it to Bond. How trustworthy :-P.

    outside our safe universe there seems to be a place where other people live too, I know it does come as a shock. ;)

    While I will go and see the next 007 outing I must admit having a shedload more anticipation for some other movies next year, as they are not as discussed to death like SPECTRE will be on this site.

    To be honest I really look forward to the Avengers movie, Star Wars & Jurassic park, and any Pixar movie will do for me.

    SPECTRE is just a certainty for me, for which my anticipation will grow hugely shortly before I go and see the movie.

    And to be honest Daniel Craig is not for me an interesting leading man, Robert Downey Jr will indeed always be my earlier choice. and Jennifer Lawrence is just a brilliant girl next door, And it is good to see that Halle Berry is back in the light.

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