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I wonder.....when you finally have something sincerely positive to say about a Bond film :-). Because in all honesty dear @Suivez_ce_parachute ......I can't remember :-).
He's a pragmatist. Anyone can just talk shit, but he brings a much needed rationale to forum discussions. He also knows Bond.
I actually agree with our friend from Paris, we'll see. And to be honest if SPECTRE is a better movie than SF I will be pleased even if the BO is less.
SF did well at the BO but as said so many times before BO does not make a movie great, but is a nice thing when your movie is well received. You can ask James Cameron he knows it better than most. ;)
What kind of black-and-white assumption is thát. He knows Bond, and others......know it less?
Bringing rationale and pragmatism to this site is one thing, but one can do it with flair, enthusiasm and positivity. And also, if one ask a friendly question via a private message, and one never responds to that, not even once.....one can understand that one's pragmatism and knowledge falls flat with some. Moreover, it is never bad to ask yourself at least once what kind of person is behind the poster no? The art of understanding each other comes partially from that.
I'm not saying that he should respond, but it is a logical result. And I do respect a healthy dose of pragmatism.
Regarding box office predictions. It is never an exact science. It is a combination of understanding the finance and business behind movies ánd having a good eye for trends that others don't see yet. Hence why some Bond fans in here called me "insane" back in mid 2012 for saying that "Skyfall" would most certainly bring in 900 Million Dollars worldwide.
I'm not saying that I own the truth. Not at all. But at times, by being so extremely careful and way too focused on the finance of it all, one can lose the eye for the unexpected.
He knows Bond, hence there's no need for him to be unnecessarily positive. The fact he displays in-depth knowledge of the subject suggests an inherent love of the franchise. Is it not taken as red that our individual existence on these boards is down to that love and knowledge, and that we don't need to constantly shove down each other's throats what über-fans we are?
There's a phenomenon here called "trolling". Hence the existence of moderators. I'm not calling someone a troll here. But especially on forums, where people do not see each other, hear each other, you easily get misunderstandings. And it's certainly not a written fact that one's existence on here is by default showing "love" to the franchise...like you say.
If you think that I'm here shoving down fake positivity in one's arse, then you are wrong. I know that even passionate Bond fans can be rude to each other here. Perhaps me too. And I think everyone in here brings his/her own kind of views..."knowledge"....to these forums.
Bond is so phenomenal you don't get it And well, CR is one of the best recent movies in the entertainment category, if you want something positive that is black-and-white.
But sorry, I find SF is more a movie that is easy to the eye and the brain than a movie that is an actual complex movie that creates something. While here it seems to many (or, rather, to some who posts a lot...), that SF should cloud all other Bond materials (while I think SF is quite empty is you remove the material it borrows from the past).
And well, I've read SPECTRE's leaked screenplays...
In all honesty....I tried to understand what you were saying.....But I don't get it quite :-). What's the point you wanted to make?
Less than a month after, the fact the SPECTRE is a Sony movie to be released in China has now seemingly no more relevance to you.
Well, I think that amongst all the big speechs, the only stuff that is probably true is that China will not make life easy for the Japanese company Sony who released "The Interview" making fun of the NK leader. The leaks may not come from NK, it may come from former employees, etc.. but China not rolling out the red carpet for Sony is still something to consider.
I simply reminded you about the second paragraph. If you think it is a too negative comment, then you should not have bother with all the lyrical speechs about the former, IMO.
Also, I post less outside the LEAKS thread simply because I read the leaks. I find some here play a very dangerous game with their "maybe/maybe not" comment. Some people who did not read the leaks are clearly taking for granted some things they should not because of these comments.
What has this to do with your previous post...for which I asked some friendly clarification...because I didn't quite get it?
Why can't you just ASK friendly. "Hey @Gustav_Graves, don't you think Sony will have release problems in China, due to the SonyLeaks?" You're just completely off-putting for me to talk with. Some call it "pragmatic", I call it "unfriendly".
But let's not derail this discussion. I do think you're right with your last point. China could be less interested in giving "SPECTRE" a premiere prime slot. But you forget one important thing.... If you read some articles lately, if you followed Asian politics a bit, then you would have nown that even China is getting annoyed by the North-Korean dictatorship style.
But I think it's not North-Korea that is troublesome for a un-delayed, swift SPECTRE-premiere. I think it's this news that could pose problems: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/is-this-north-korea-chinese-netizens-squirm-as-party-tightens-grip-on-internet/2015/01/28/79cfc809-21ea-4437-9d4b-5ece2cfc75f6_story.html
I think it comes down to one simple thing. If Sony manages to get a premiere date for "SPECTRE" late November or early December, then "SPECTRE"s global box office could skyrocket. Especially in China. But if it will be released around late January, early February...or perhaps even not at all....then there's a big problem.
Let's wait and see. And please @Suivez_ce_parachute. Just be a bit...nicer. Ok?
PS : I'm also sorry to say the forum had IMO many more varied opinions when you were away because of too many people "not reading what you write" (that's quite surreal). Now you're back, all the boring "you're a true Bond fan only if..." and "a lot of Bond-fans are wrong..." discussions are back again.
Bravo indeed :-). That's such a respectful post. You earn it. You're a true Bond fan. You bring about positivity in all your posts. You come up with wunderful solutions on how each and every Bond film can be improved. You ask enlightened questions all the time. You create topics that facilitate pragmatism and a different view on things...on the Bond franchise in particular. You bring the necessary joie-de-vive to here. You.....you are a true Bond fan. The one and only.
Sleep tight.
And there are so many more animated movies to come this year: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4017&p=.htm
After less than three weeks in cinemas, "Paddington" scored $208,119,508 worldwide. And "The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water" is most certainly going to pass that figure (currently: $082,800,000 worldwide). And it will do better than the critically acclaimed "The LEGO Movie" from 2014 ($468,760,692 wordwide).
It shows that 2015 is really kicking off hugely. It could very well be that the TOP 20 wordwide box office at the end of 2015 will be 1.3 to 1.4 times more as the disappointing year 2014.
What IS IT with those damned young adult novels (cheap paperbacks) and their movie adaptations??? :-L
That FSoG would do well with women is a certainty, even if the movie is somewhat tamer than the book, so I expect the next one to be more explicit. ;)
And if females are in favour of a movie far more will visit the cinema with their female friends, somehow word of mouth is far more convincing with women. Heck even my wife has been asked by several friends of her to go to this movie, and while she is not so much a fan of the genre she will be going with her friends nonetheless.
I sometimes indeed forget this factor. Hmmm......what do you think about "SPECTRE" then?
I expect it to do well but just not as well as SF did.
No. I mean girl-wise. Will it attract more female audiences than SF?
No I do not think so, good ole 007 is mostly a male thing.
DC is pretty popular with the ladies, so you never know?
Most women I know prefer Broz. DC definitely has his fans, but not enough to guarantee Box Office.
Whaaaat? That's not my impression at all. Most of the girls at my work have the hots for DC. The $1.1bn SF did definitely had something to do with him and there surely were a bunch of women in the theatre when I watched the movie.....all 3 times.
Nah, it was a combination of factors that all contributed to the Zeitgeisty success of SF. It wasn't simply women who liked DC. 50 Shades of Bullshit will be able to attribute 95% of it's BO to women, but not Bond. The Craig films bank money through more than just the star.
No doubt it was a combination of factors, and Bond is definitely not drawing the Twilight or 50 Shades crowd. However, I saw a lot of women in their late 20s into their 40s in the theatre when I saw all of the Craig films actually, and as I said, the women at my work love him. I think he's been a favourite of middle aged women ever since he did the beach shot for CR.
I've no doubt. I saw the same demographic during the Brosnan era.
No doubt. I just didn't realize there had been a drop off for Craig. I thought the female component increased ever since that swimming trunk shot, which is why they released another one like that in the pool in Shanghai as one of the earliest promo shots for SF. It certainly wasn't for us guys I don't think
I'm not sure, I'd have to see stats. My impression is that more men were drawn in by Craig than Brosnan.