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I've got nothing really to add. @RC7 is smashing it out of the park.
For me the PTS of GE was too much for my conscience to handle. I mean, Brosnan 'catching' that airplane while at the same time a very unconvincing rolling backscreen is projected, to me looked more deplorable than CGI-image of Hashima island.
I do agree with you that CGI shouldn't replace action sequences. Fully agreed with that. But that's a bit besides the point if people start complaining about a CGI mouse or a CGI Komodo dragon.
For me personally, and I'm obviously in the minority in here, it feels like shitting over the great work of Steve Begg and his team. Obviously, the director in the end has the final hand in it.
But you are right that "Die Another Day" still is the worst ever example of deplorable CGI. Seeing Bond surfing fake CGI-waves to me is way way more worse than witnessing a tense CGI-terrorist attack on MI6-headquarters in "Skyfall". Not to mention some deplorable backscreen projections, which CGI nowadays can do much better.
True Lies! Man, what a wonderful film that was :-). Fully agree on that one...
Cameron always had the biggest budgets in cinematic history. So this comparison cannot be made in my opinion.
GE was made in 1995 for Heaven's sake, and that one second long image of Brosnan and a back projection is no problem at all.
If you have a problem with a one second long scene where Brosnan is obviously in front of a back projection then I guess your conscience doesn't allow you anymore to watch DN, FRWL and GF.
It's disappointing even within the context of the same film because it was put to shame just a few minutes earlier by the brilliant classic jump by Wayne Michaels in Switzerland (standing in for the Soviet Union).
I am aware that Cameron had a much larger budget to work with than Campbell, but that is not relevant in this case imho. If one has a smaller budget, then one should work with it and not try to do things with special effects which will look cheap in the future. Bond films are forever and are viewed by generations of viewers over time. At the time of GF, FRWL & DN, EON probably wasn't aware of that. By the time of GE, they should have been.
Again, this is a contextual discussion about CGI - not about GE as a film or as a saviour of the franchise.
It's not that really......I think subconsciously I know that DN, FRWL and GF were produced in the 1960's. So timetravelling back makes me perfectly understand those backscreen projections. I mean, there wasn't anything else than James Bond blockbuster-wise in those days. People swallowed these technicalities, because the total finished product basically always went on satisfy....in those days. Until YOLT and OHMSS.
GE however I saw in cinema in 1995 with my mum, dad and my 2 year younger brother. I remembered my dad going insane from laughing when seeing that PTS sequence. But I was like "Sjee dad, you really have to scare mum like that? It's so fake" :-P. Maybe it's because my first ever Bond film in cinema was "Licence To Kill", in 1989. And that experience....basically set the standard for me :-). The PTS from LTK felt more 'real' than the cheesy GE PTS.
But that's my opinion off course.
I don't think at all it's cheesy. What is cheesy about it? Alex seemingly getting shot in the head? Also it features the greatest stunt ever in a Bond movie (except the TSWLM PTS of course).
Absolutely. The money shot of that sequence is the bike going off the cliff and the stuntman launching himself after the plane. I think it's one of the must underrated stunts of the series, probably due to what followed with the ropey effects.
I think if they'd timed the shot better so that the plane wasn't quite as far out of reach and the bike had been going a tad faster the stuntman could've caught up with the plane enough to get a hand on it, or even just get level with the tail before they cut (obviously it's tough though as you're asking a guy to do that as part of a BASE jump so there is very little time for him to actually do anything before he pulls the cord. But this was to show Bond is back after 6 years so they needed to really push the envelope to the limit). And then we could have cut to an insert shot of Broz (I'm fine with those shots from inside of him hanging onto the outside) getting a hand on it and then cut back to a stuntman hanging onto the outside of the plane which is just basically nothing they didn't do in OP.
It's still one of the great PTSs though. Two epic stunts even if one is a bit dodgy.
Barry Norman's review has always stuck with me which went something along the lines of, 'Bond is definitely back and it starts with two stunts that are so outrageous you simply have to applaud.'
Although he follows it up with, 'Mind you nothing so spectacular happens again', which seems a bit hard on the tank chase.
That was text book.
Every single frame.
Feel free to furnish us with your list of top Bond action sequences then.
The only scene that feels spectacular for me in GE is the bungee jump. That s a great start, and then it goes downwards.
Thunderfinger praising GE. I'll have to cherish this rare moment.
@Creasy47, and because you directly quoted him, he can't backtrack and delete the comment. Victory!
Damn, I was so close to history, too! Maybe one day.
Bond in a spiffy Brioni suit, driving a tank through Russia and giving zero fucks.
You're embarassing yourself here son.
I'm on tenterhooks for your list of Bond action sequences that are better than the tank chase but, like this morning, I suppose you're in too much of a hurry to rush off somewhere again to back this up with some coherent arguments?
Granted the statue riding on top is wank (although from this we do get the tie, straightening which in GE is sublime - although in TWINE is shit) and the Perrier product placement I could do without but the initial crash through the wall, the handbrake turn in front of St Isaacs Cathedral and the general carnage are all superb. In particular the shot as the tank catches up the police car from behind and runs over the back of it is fabulous.
I find this all a bit rich coming from the same guy who is happy to sing the praises of the tepid DAF PTS in 'The controversial opinions' thread.