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SF did lousy numbers in China because it opening months after it opened elsewhere and the tech savy Chinese had already heavily bootlegged it. One hopes EON and SONY have more clout this time and it opens early in China (like F & F and Avengers 2 did) so that it too can make decent BO.
I am curious though about that net $300 Million production budget. It's from those leaked emails no? What if it wasn't leaked? Would the 'public' budget, available on Boxofficemojo.com, etc, not be lower? Let's say $250 Million?
And if that's the case, and if emails from Disney/Marvel are being leaked now, could it not be possible that their net effective budgets are way way higher than we previously thought?
Let's not forget that Spectre, like every Bond movie, will make plenty of money outside of selling tickets, that will never be reported in box office news. We already know the big product tie-ins like Jaguar, whichever watch, vodka, and electronics etc etc show up in the movie will bring in huge bucks, plus other assorted cash returns like Mexico city paying to show off the city etc.
I hope that SP corrects the things I liked least about SF like making Bond appear old and weakened, overuse of M and in particular MP, minor use of Bond girl, etc. If I see that damn ear piece in Bond's ear again, taking direction, I'll just gag. This plot stuff was all Mendes and Logan which is why I'm no fan of their ongoing engagement. I guess I'm one poster who hopes Mendes doesn't return for 25 unless SP hopefully proves me wrong about his POV.
http://www.cityam.com/216425/cineworld-predicts-star-wars-and-james-bond-deliver-further-box-office-growth
Certainly sounds good to me! :-bd
"Furious 7" has now crossed the $1.5 Billion and is now the 4th highest grossing film of all time, behind "Avatar" ($2,787,965,087), "Titanic" ($2,186,772,302) & "Avengers 1" ($1,518,594,910). Current global box office total as of 31.05.2015:
$1,500,518,000
"Avengers 2" is also doing staggering work, but it now becomes quite unpredictable if the film can pass "Furious 7"s $1.5 Billion. "Avengers 2" is now the 6th highest grossing film of all time. It will pass the $1.4 Billion. Current global box office total as 0f 31.05.2015:
$1,285,614,000
"Kingsman: The Secret Service" has already passed the $400 Million mark and 20th Century Fox already announced in April that a sequel to this succesful film will be produced. So Mr James Bond 007 will continue competing with the Kingsmen. Current global box office total as of 31.05.2015:
$0,403,453,150
In China, "Avengers 2" was slightly lagging behind on the first day opening record last month of "Furious 7". These figures absolutely pale to "Skyfall"s opening day in China, back in early 2013:
1st day opening box office "Furious 7":....$55.74 Million (Sunday)
1st day opening box office "Avengers 2":.$32.48 million (Tuesday)
1st day opening box office "Skyfall":........$05.10 million
Nope.
Your numbers are global box office totals until 29.05.2015 in the US plus overseas numbers until 24.05.2015.
The numbers up to 31.05.2015 will only be updated later today or tomorrow.
No, but have a look at the topic title ;-).
I'm amused at the idea of Bond "competing" with Kingsman, when Kingsman is doing nothing but riding Bond's coat-tails and blatantly using Bond tropes and iconography to promote itself. The icon doesn't compete with the ripoff. Not even in the same league.
The only other spy themed series that's even on the same playing field is Mission Impossible with its last film doing $694 mil global (and even then that's half a billion less than Skyfall).
And let's not forget "The Man From UNCLE" ;-).
And the 90's when we had M:I kicking off, The Saint, The Avengers, Austin Powers, Spy Hard etc.
It plays out like a reboot in a way as there are elements of all three in it.
It actually is the first mega movie of the year that I think has lived up to expectations (FF7 & Avengers Ultron were relative disappointments to me, entertainment wise, given all the hype and the box office numbers).
This one will easily gross $1bn imho.
PS: - I saw the new Hunger Games- Mockingjay 2 trailer. Even though I've never seen any of those movies, I think it may cause trouble for SP (there was some cheering in the theatre when it came on), especially with SW7 coming in at around the same time as well. It's the crowded calendar that could hurt Bond (waiting for @Gustav to contradict me shortly....).
Did "Twilight" cause trouble for "Skyfall"? On the contrary, I think they more or less enhanced each other from a free marketing perspective. Most people who went to see "Twilight", later also wanted to see "Skyfall"......and the other way around.
In the end these two movies had wunderful box office grosses:
--> $0,829,685,377 world wide gross: "The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2"
--> $1,108,561,013 world wide gross: "Skyfall"
And "Star Wars"? Come on, that movie premieres a big 6 weeks later, December 18th. So I think it's actually less crowded in the fall of 2015 then it is now. But on the other hand, if you see what "Furious 7", "Avengers: Age Of Ultron" and now most likely "Jurassic World"are doing at the box office, then you can already conclude this: They obviously aren't hurting each other.
I expect this to be the case with "SPECTRE" as well. It will quite easily become the 5th (!!) film of 2015 grossing more than $1.0 Billion. The first ones being "Furious 7" and "Avengers 2", then most likely followed by nr 3, "Jurassic World" and nr 4 "Minions". Nr 5 will be Nr "007" :-). "Hunger Games" could be the 6th 1.0 Billion Dollar movie of 2015, but barely. "Star Wars" off course will be the 6th or 7th 1.0 Billion Dollar movie.
If I'm not mistaken, FF7, Avengers 2 & now Jurassic World all had/will have their runs with limited competition for at least 4 wks.
SP is going to have to contend with Hunger Games and then SW, going into the important holiday season when Bond normally does very well on holdover. I think it will depend on who gets the IMAX theatres and the other more expensive mega theatres (eg. Ultra AVX etc.) and for how long. SF really benefited from sitting in the IMAX theatres for quite some time in 2012.
Don't get me wrong, I think SP will be huge, but there's no doubt in my mind that its eventual take could be much higher if the calendar was not this crowded this year.
PS: Agree on Minions - saw the trailer and I think that it will do very well (unfortunately, imho).
Audiences of "Hunger Games" and "James Bond" are very different. Very comparable to audiences for "Twilight" and "Skyfall". Expect "SPECTRE" to easily do better than "Hunger Games". Moreover, young adult movies tend to have less stronger holdover, as compared to James Bond films.
Moreover, the marketing campaign for "SPECTRE" has already been way stronger than "The Hunger Games".
For example, I normally see a new Bond film 2-3 times in the theatre within a few wks of release (and normally in the best theatres where I spend the most money). I may only watch SP once (sacrilege I know....but there's so much out there this yr).
In a way, Bond's eventual gross will be all that more impressive since it doesn't rely on the inflated 3d ticket prices. I'm pretty sure if they backed out the 3d premium, SF might have actually outgrossed Avengers (in terms of total ticket sales) in 2012. FF7 is similarly impressive this year (although I didn't really like that film).
Given trends this year, it's the action that will really take SP's gross to the next level (people seem to be paying for action films this year - particularly in the far east).
Yeah, this is one of the main reasons they always open a Bond movie before Thanksgiving in the US, that's a traditional family-get-together-and-see-a-movie weekend. Same as Christmas/New Year, but obviously Star Wars will be the main attraction then.
Star Wars is the event movie of this year. No doubt.
SF was that in Christmas 2012 (not Hobbit) imho.