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--> $ 178,919,924: "Mission: Impossible 2"
--> $ 172,558,998: "Mission: Impossible 4 - Ghost Protocol"
--> $ 160,031,069: "Mission: Impossible 5 - Rogue Nation"
--> $ 147,461,874: "Mission: Impossible 1"
--> $ 116,774,848: "Mission: Impossible 3"
It could make it a bit harder for "Rogue Nation" to pass the $ 200 Million domestically. On the other hand, as "Rogue Nation" is greatly helped by being a Chinese co-production, I could see the film doing even better than "Ghost Protocol"s Chinese box office gross of $ 101 Million.
It'll be interesting to see if "Mission: Impossible 5 - Rogue Nation" can pass the $ 750 Million globally :-).
I also find it curious that there were rumours earlier of this film incorporating elements of the SP leaked plot in its script, and SP is a Sony (Japanese company) financed production. We all know how the Chinese and Japanese do not get on......hmm...
What I would like to know is, why "Rogue Nation" is not doing slightly better in the USA as compared to "Ghost Protocol"?
I found the marketing for this film curiously lacking. I'm not sure why that's the case. I somehow felt that MI-GP had more marketing hype before its release. Additionally, if I'm not mistaken, that film came out much later in the year, when there was far less competition. I think August is not as suitable a time for a film of this nature, which also probably negatively affected UNCLE. Having said that, it seems to be doing reasonably well enough for a series on its 5th film.
I'm also a bit concerned about SP marketing to date. I saw the trailer for the first time attached to a low budget film called THE GIFT (which I really enjoyed by the way) and it seemed quite underwhelming and did not get much reaction from the audience (who admittedly was older). They were much more enthused by the new Johnny Depp film Black Mass (which looks brilliant by the way, and may get him an Oscar nom). Certainly the SP trailer does not have the same impact for me as the thumping teaser for SF, which while much shorter, really hit it out of the park with the famous Hitchcock style fall of Patrice and psych eval (Skyfall........Skyfall.......Done).
"Minions" has passed the $1 Billion box office mark. It's total global box office gross now stands at: $ 1,003,880,590. It's the 4th film this year crossing the $ 1 Billion mark. And with the film yet to open in China, it could near "Skyfall"s $ 1. Billion.
$200 Million+ in China is a big fat twice as much as what "Ghost Protocol" did in China. If this is a sign......"SPECTRE" should equally do wonders in China. With 'only' a $150 Million gross of "SPECTRE", the 24th Bond film would still be en route towards a $1.2 Billion figure globally.
It seems China is a bit spy crazy...but at the moment it's not for agent 007, but for agent Hunt :-)
MI5 doesn't just have to rely on China, it is still going strong in Europe.
And here a fun fact: Terminator did a whopping 80% of its box office outside the US.
SP will have to get the numbers elsewhere.
It will better SF (how can it not?) but will not best MI-RN. It's not so much about the Chinese funding (although having Jack Ma behind you is never going to hurt) but more about the translatability of the Craig Bond films' relatively serious tone to the Chinese market.
I've been saying that all the time :-). Nothing wrong with that. The Chinese economy is falling into shambles anyway upcoming few years ;-).
Totally agree. SP not only doesn't have the inside Chinese Alibaba backing, it won't have the vast screen numbers that MI is getting, it may also get a very delayed late opening date like SF did virtually assuring the film will have already been heavily boot legged. It might be lucky and do $100m or maybe double the $59m SF did, or a little more, but I will be surprised if it gets near $200m which MI should easily get. SP is going to have to get it's big BO bucks out of the US, GB and Europe like SF did. South America and the far east were not great markets for SF, despite the ignorant comments of Cleese who said they took the humor out of Bond because new Bond was making its big money in Asia where they didn't get the humor. He was dead wrong. Look at the #s: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=bond23.htm
China was low for SF, and hopefully SP will do much better, but as noted above, I don't expect any big surprise multiplier in that market. Hope I'm wrong.
As you can see, I have the China gross for "SPECTRE" higher than "Skyfall", but it's still considerably lower than what pundits (Entgroup China) predict with "Mission: Impossible 5 - Rogue Nation" in China.
Which is not surprising. "Ghost Protocol" already had a head start back in 2011 over "Skyfall".
I can't say anything about China or Mexico.
Rest of world seems about right.
"Well....we'll see about that" ;-)
Instead of the hyperbole word 'delusional' I would replace it with 'could be' :-P
nah that's not hyperbole, that's flirting with you :)) you know I love you ;;) how's that for hyperbole :))
Big :-* , Jason
"Ooowh, you're such a flatterer Ja...son" :\">
I think you're 100% right on all points. I'd only add that though I wish a great film will goose the BO take, it often doesn't. I'll be happy with a quality film that clears it's huge budget. To me, that would spell success.
I agree. I don't think this will top SF. However, I think it needs to crack $1bn in order to be considered a success for everyone concerned ($1bn seems like the big number every major franchise is shooting for these days).
EON/Sony will probably do what it takes to essentially buy market share somewhere and take it over that number, unless it crashes in a major market (unlikely). I'm sure they will at least want it to top SF in the US, although achieving a similar result in the UK may be unlikely, given how crazy successful SF was there.
I think Paramount's 'Mission: Impossible' is by far not as big in the USA as James Bond. I think it's fairer to compare James Bond with another American franchise: Warner's 'Batman'.....or better....'The Dark Knight Trilogy'. Even Universal's the 'The Fast & Furious' franchise is box-office-wise comparable as another non-sci-first, non-3D franchise.
So a domestic gross north of $350 million for "SPECTRE" is entirely realistic. Look at "Furious 7" and "The Dark Knight Rises".
"Skyfall", "The Dark Knight" and "Furious 7" all had something in common. They all were profiting from special events/news surrounding their premieres. Whether it was the death of Heath Ledger and Paul Walker, or the 50th anniversary and the Olympics....these events created legacy. It already helped "The Dark Knight Rises". It will help the 8th installment of "Furious", and because there's now a big blockbuster break until November 6th, it will most certainly help "SPECTRE".
$ 1.2 Billion or more it is.
That's not entirely true. Bond was never a great draw in the US post early Connery, except for a few films here and there, and of course, SF. It always underperformed in the US compared to other markets.
Batman is a different matter. It always did its biggest relative business in the US markets.
So, SF was an exception to the rule. The question is, can it continue with SP, or was it a one-off?
MI-RN was a fantastic film, and it's doing just ok. However, a lot of that could be the lack of star power in the cast (except for Cruise). Bond has Waltz & Bautista (fresh off GOTG), and that may be a sufficient enough draw, who knows. I agree with @smitty though, it will be difficult, based on history, for SP to beat SF in the US market, and I think SW7 and HG are going to have a major effect on it at some point. SF basically had the market to itself in 2012.
I'm sorry but It'll be pretty good going if SPECTRE can make 250 million domestic, I doubt north of 350 million is on the cards. I think you're looking at a best case scenario, hardly the right approach to take with BO predictions. Just my opinion.
Good box-office predictors not only look at past box-office figures. They also look at trends that go with those past box-office figures. The Bond franchise has severely upscaled itself in terms of production size, quality and money during the Craig era.
I'm extensively reading comments on social media and movie websites (German, Dutch, American, here in Spain), and again a lot of people who usually don't go to a Bond film, will see the upcoming film. Simply because it has:
--> Dave Bautista (wrestling fans, Marvel-fans, lots of latinos/african-americans too)
--> Christoph Waltz (Tarantino fans "Aaah! Waltz is in that film? Then I'll give it a try!")
--> Sam Mendes (draws in older/female audiences who previously loved his drama films)
This sets the upcoming Bond film, like "Skyfall", apart from all pre-Craig era produced Bond films.
Also, I find the chance very slim that "SPECTRE" will be reviewed as lackluster as "Quantum Of Solace". It will most likely get similar reviews as "Skyfall" and "Casino Royale".
Well, I think you are right in saying SPECTRE will appeal to female audiences to a greater extent than before. We have three central female performances ranging in ages, roles etc.