SPECTRE: It grossed $880 Million Worldwide (..and 2015 was the biggest box office year so far)

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @mepal, I'm on the east side of N.A. and it's almost 20 'til 4:00 PM right now. Looking forward to seeing what Friday made for SP tomorrow morning.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Who cares about peanuts? Bond is very the big money is.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Who cares about peanuts? Bond is very the big money is.

    I care about peanuts. I prefer the Planters brand myself.
  • Who cares about peanuts?

    These guys?

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    This is the time when the studio heads must be at their most nervous..........awaiting the figures for the opening night of the BO..........coz if they are good they can gets the drinks out............if they are bad, then they can say goodbye to their ass!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I just saw it.

    I'm revising my estimates downward as a result.

    $85m to $95m opening weekend and between $200m and $250m when it's all said and done stateside.
  • In my view, 80 million would be very good.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    mepal1 wrote: »
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Deadline.com just updated, they're declaring a $30 million Friday and $80 million weekend. Of course these are very early estimates.

    Yes.........its still too early yet for what the opening weekend for Spectre is gonna be.......i mean it must only be mid-afternoon at the latest on the Eastern side of N.America.
    I'am hoping film will do around $90 mil for weekend!.........will need to do around $35-40 mil on Friday to have a chance of reaching that mark though!

    Lol yea I know later now but I didn't get how it looked like that when it wasn't 1:30pm yet.

  • edited November 2015 Posts: 389
    A 28.1 $ M Friday is 2 million less than what I was expecting. However, an A- is far better than QoS.
    I think Spectre is going to make 70-78 million this weekend, in the range of what other studios predicted, but a bit disappointing for some of us.
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    A 28.1 $ M Friday is 2 million less than what I was expecting. However, an A- is far better than QoS.
    I think Spectre is going to make 70-78 million this weekend, in the range of what other studios predicted, but a bit disappointing for some of us.

    Yes a little dissappointing, though its good to see that the audience rating for the film was very high..........maybe some people are being put off seeing the film initially, coz of those horrible critics. Strange how apart from some of the critics reviews, the public opinion to the film is generally different. Mind you if film has good word of mouth, people will see the film at a later date anyway!

  • In fact, reviews are far to be bad, even in USA, but compared with SF they are very, very underwhelming. I would be glad if this movie gets 200 million in North America.
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    The problem is everybody was expecting another deep, moody political thriller like Skyfall and that's just not what a James Bond film is. Everyone keeps harking on about how contrived the film's plot is and I'm sitting there saying "Uh....have you NOT actually seen a 007 film pre-Casino Royale? All the plots are contrived...."
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    A 28.1 $ M Friday is 2 million less than what I was expecting. However, an A- is far better than QoS.
    I think Spectre is going to make 70-78 million this weekend, in the range of what other studios predicted, but a bit disappointing for some of us.

    That A- is very encouraging though even if opening lower. Could indicate the film might have legs. I forget Bond has a built in fan base too.
  • mcdonbb wrote: »
    A 28.1 $ M Friday is 2 million less than what I was expecting. However, an A- is far better than QoS.
    I think Spectre is going to make 70-78 million this weekend, in the range of what other studios predicted, but a bit disappointing for some of us.

    That A- is very encouraging though even if opening lower. Could indicate the film might have legs. I forget Bond has a built in fan base too.

    More interested in China now :-). Let's say "SPECTRE" scores $50 million less in the USA, triples the amount in Mexico ($9 Million for SF, times 3), and scores $50 Million more in China....then $1.1 Billion is in reach again :-). And so is my prediction.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    A 28.1 $ M Friday is 2 million less than what I was expecting. However, an A- is far better than QoS.
    I think Spectre is going to make 70-78 million this weekend, in the range of what other studios predicted, but a bit disappointing for some of us.

    That A- is very encouraging though even if opening lower. Could indicate the film might have legs. I forget Bond has a built in fan base too.

    More interested in China now :-). Let's say "SPECTRE" scores $50 million less in the USA, triples the amount in Mexico ($9 Million for SF, times 3), and scores $50 Million more in China....then $1.1 Billion is in reach again :-). And so is my prediction.

    Yes but I really don't want Bond to loose his gained American audience.

    ...and I want Bond to continue. *sigh*

  • edited November 2015 Posts: 1,098
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    A 28.1 $ M Friday is 2 million less than what I was expecting. However, an A- is far better than QoS.
    I think Spectre is going to make 70-78 million this weekend, in the range of what other studios predicted, but a bit disappointing for some of us.

    That A- is very encouraging though even if opening lower. Could indicate the film might have legs. I forget Bond has a built in fan base too.

    More interested in China now :-). Let's say "SPECTRE" scores $50 million less in the USA, triples the amount in Mexico ($9 Million for SF, times 3), and scores $50 Million more in China....then $1.1 Billion is in reach again :-). And so is my prediction.

    Exactly......i was thinking that too.........if there is a BO shortfall in North America, this should be more than compensated by the International grosses.........anyway, we wait to see what the Saturday gross for SP is Stateside to get a better gist of the opening there!

    On Sunday evening we will not only get the weekend estimate for North America, but also the grosses elsewhere for the film.......and the International figures are gonna be very impressive........i have no doubt about that. Be interesting to see how the film performed in its 2nd week in the UK, and whether its on course to set a new national record.
    Mind you, if it does, it could be short lived, judging by the advanced ticket sales for SWTFA!

    Still, its the 2nd weekend that is the real indicator to a film's potential BO gross in a territory. SP could do better, as i don't think it has any new serious competition next week in North America...in comparison SF took a massive hit in its 2nd week, when the 'Twilight' film opened!

    Strange.....how there is such a wide gap between the critics rating of SP and the general public. Now that the film has opened, the critics influence will be diminished, as people will spread the word on their own reviews of the film, towards their friends and work colleagues!

  • EndCredit007EndCredit007 EGYPT
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    just watched it for the first time ..two weeks ago i predicted a whole of 850 : 900 million .. now i doubt it can reach it ..
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    just watched it for the first time ..two weeks ago i predicted a whole of 850 : 900 million .. now i doubt it can reach it ..

    Blimey........there are some really pessimistic people here! :( Cheer up!
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2015 Posts: 4,116
    Yea ..negativity and rudeness (NOT referring to @EndCredit007) seem to be looming back in.

  • EndCredit007EndCredit007 EGYPT
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    i had a very old deep love for the series and very high expectation for SPECTRE .. sorry if i seem rude but i am not .. i am just sad ..
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    i had a very old deep love for the series and very high expectation for SPECTRE .. sorry if i seem rude but i am not .. i am just sad ..

    I totally accept and understand how you feel. You were not rude at all and I didn't mean to be either.

    I guess I just want everyone excited and not to loose our Bond. Your opinion may change over time but then it may not.

    It's the forum members intent on insulting fans who did enjoy the film even given its faults that annoy me.
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's the forum members intent on insulting fans who did enjoy the film even given its faults that annoy me.

    Well last week it was suggested all the UK fans that had already enjoyed SP were just consumed with giddy excitement and therefore had opinions less valid than the negative critics because they were not as in depth (read nitpicking) with their comments as they were.

    It's a shame some try and take somebody's enjoyment away from them. We can all have reservations about the direction of the series or some such but should still hope other fellow Bond fans enjoy watching a new Bond film.

    Too many people also seem to be using the Sony Leaks comments about the script, or the different third act in the leaked script, as a shoe in to give a good kicking. If others then aren't as critical of the script then it may be because we are only judging the film from what we saw on screen and not buying into the drama of months ago which let's face it rose from the the illegal obtaining and distribution of a copywrited script.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Cowley wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    It's the forum members intent on insulting fans who did enjoy the film even given its faults that annoy me.

    Well last week it was suggested all the UK fans that had already enjoyed SP were just consumed with giddy excitement and therefore had opinions less valid than the negative critics because they were not as in depth (read nitpicking) with their comments as they were.

    It's a shame some try and take somebody's enjoyment away from them. We can all have reservations about the direction of the series or some such but should still hope other fellow Bond fans enjoy watching a new Bond film.

    Too many people also seem to be using the Sony Leaks comments about the script, or the different third act in the leaked script, as a shoe in to give a good kicking. If others then aren't as critical of the script then it may be because we are only judging the film from what we saw on screen and not buying into the drama of months ago which let's face it rose from the the illegal obtaining and distribution of a copywrited script.

    True.

    ....I can be as objective as the next guy as just as giddy.

    Besides why does negativity negate objectivity?

    I admit and see the faults of the film but I loved the hell out of it and rarely have I left the cinema with that big of a smile.

    Last time I left that happy was with CR.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Criticism should always be welcome.
    Spectre, for me personally, is as perfect as can be, but tastes are different.

    Furthermore I can imagine young people that have grown up to CR QOS and SF being snubbed by Spectre as it resembles the former eras that are mostly unloved by them.
    I can understand that. And of course this is just an assumption.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I doubt SP will achieve the same results as SF, having seen it, but it will no doubt be a very successful Bond film. $900 to $950m is possible but not certain. I expect it to decimate MI-RN in all markets except China.

    I predict the US box office at between $200m to $250m overall (slighly above the trendline pre-SF).

    This one is likely to fall off quickly because I didn't see much in it to warrant an obsessive 2nd showing (outside of the hardcore fanbase like us). It's entertaining, the reviews have been too harsh (although the criticisms are for the most part spot on, they are painted too negatively imho) but in the end it doesn't really have the mass repeat factor that SF did.

    Having said that, just under $1bn is not too shabby at all.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 4,617
    Is it possible that audiences are more sophisticated now compared to the sixties? Its easy for the more mature of us to have rose tinted specs about the classic SC era but does this mean anything for the younger audience? Bourne came in with no movie legacy and set its own standards and people loved it. Perhaps the traditional Bond plot simply cant work anymore? CR and SF were well received but did not involve a bald maniac trying to take over the world from inside a crater (with a cat ) , they were much more personal villains with smaller but still scary agendas. Perhaps SP has been as miscalculation. Wonderful for traditional Bond fans (as witnessed by many great reviews) but has the rest of the World moved on?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @patb, I agree with you, with qualifications.

    I think a traditional trope laden Bond film can work, even today.

    The one thing that a traditional Bond film must be however, is plot centric, with meaningful characterizations and with clear villain motivations. There is less room for error when making something traditional.

    I think EON/Mendes have been caught up a little in their own history and fallen over it this time around and didn't make it progressive enough. They didn't move the bar (action-wise or plot wise), pretitles notwithstanding.

    MI-GP & RN did a far better job at making a traditional Bond film than SP did, and that is what is going to hurt SP critically when it's all said and done (but not at the box office though, because Bond is still bigger than MI with more history).

    If you're going to do it, you have to get it just right.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 4,617
    I think there maybe another issue that's linked to this. In the 60s, were were a major power and the concept of British agents saving the world is less fair fetched than it is today. Its easy to miss this from inside the UK, but the perception of us from outside has changed. (its not something that , on the whole, we are good at dealing with and we cling to nostalgia better than any other country) and we simply have less punch (we cant even seem to get our citizens home from Egypt but I digress). Is Bond punching above his weight in saving the World? should the writers be setting their sights lower or should he be working more closely with other countries?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    patb wrote: »
    I think there maybe another issue that's linked to this. In the 60s, were were a major power and the concept of British agents saving the world is less fair fetched than it is today. Its easy to miss this from inside the UK, but the perception of us from outside has changed. (its not something that , on the whole, we are good at dealing with and we cling to nostalgia better than any other country). Is Bond punching above his weight in saving the World? should the writers be setting their sights lower or should he be working more closely with other countries?

    It's a fair point, but I don't think that's a problem. Britain is known to punch above its weight even today. It's a given. Plus Bond is a 50 plus yr institution. If he's not saving the world, no one can.

    I still think the issue is that when one is doing 'traditional', one has to get the balance, the action and the script right.

    Script and action must 'wow'. There is no room for SF style plot screwups/inconsistencies because there is not much else to hold on to otherwise.

    This is where SP didn't get it quite right imho.
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