Jean-Jacques Annaud on Sean Connery ("The name of the rose")

edited August 2013 in Actors Posts: 2,015
The source is in French but here it is anyway (radio podcast) :

http://www.europe1.fr/MediaCenter/Emissions/Secrets-de-tournages/Sons/Secrets-de-tournage-Jean-Jacques-Annaud-1587199/

Jean-Jacques Annaud describes during 45 minutes the making of The Name of The Rose (from reading the book to the promotion tours). During it, he explains during a few minutes how he casted Sean Connery and the consequences it made. If what JJA says is true, it can explain Sean Connery's attitude towards 007 to some extent. It seems the problems were not only during the documented fiasco of the "two pictures deal with United Artist in exchange of DAF".

To cast Sean Connery, he first had to meet him face to face : Connery came to Annaud's office after many attempts, Annaud could not imagine "casting Bond" in a movie were the hero is a tribute to Sherlock Holmes : too much confusing. Ok, here it's only Annaud's opinion. But as soon as he decided to cast Connery, he explains the project simply halted for a year : most notably, the producers at Columbia who were handling the project, who were waiting for Annaud to end his casting (this movie had a most unusual casting) did not want to produce any movie starring Connery : "He's Bond, and nothing else. He's square (French : "ringard")" Annaud spent a year trying to find a studio that would agree to produce the movie with Connery (and in the end it was Fox - who did not know how to promote the movie in the end, the US poster is a joke). Hopefully it was a major hit in Europe (France, Germany and in particular Italy), and a critical success. And possibly the first step to bring back Connery in the light in the end of the 80s.


Note : On his site :

http://www.jjannaud.com/index_en.htm

Then "Name of the Rose"
then "Meeting Sean Connery",
you have the short, more diplomatic, version of it :

"I wanted an unknown person to play William de Baskerville, oldish Sherlock Holmes fighting against serial murders in the abbey imagined by Umberto Eco. He had to be over 50 and of course very talented.

During months, I faded away in theatres. In London first and in New York and then in Manchester and Chicago, and at last in badly heated rooms in Canadian provinces and in Welsh parishes. Every two months, I got the same call from the same man, the supposed most powerful agent of Hollywood, Mike Owitz, Sean Connery’s representative.

His speech was invariable : “I remind you Sean would love be in your film. I remind you Sean is a wonderful actor”. I invariably answered to his invariable request : “Sherlock Holmes plus James Bond, there’s one character too many in the abbey”.

One year later and after 6 calls, empty-handed and defeated, I eventually accept to entertain Bond in Munich. He came into my office.

He was a royal fine figure of a man. His build took the door frame. I invited him to sit. He did it as in the theatre, like Polyeucte or Agamemnon. He opened the script on page 1.

He said with a deep voice : “Let me read, boy”. My mane was already whiter than my skirt, and he called me “boy”. He read the first cue ; he gave me goose pimples. What I was hearing was what I had heard inside me for almost 2 years. I stopped him on page 3.

I ran out my office and went downstairs to tell my producer Bernt Eichinger the good news.

I just have then to convince Umberto Eco, shattered by my choice, the distributors who don’t want to bet any cash on an actor they see on the decline, and the reviewers who take years to accept Sean among the greatest of the first century of cinema."



Comments

  • Posts: 15,123
    Gosh I LOVE that movie. And I was never distracted by the fact that Sean Connery had been Bond, for me he was a very believable William of Baskerville, the asexual, cerebral monk.
  • Posts: 5,767
    Thanks a lot for posting that @Suivez_ce_parachute! I always dig such behind-the-scenes stories.

    It makes me dizzy to see how blind, unimaginative and stupid some people in high places were, and probably still are. William of Baskerville didn´t remind me in any way of James Bond when the film came out. And how can you speak of "an actor on his decline"? Especially Connery got only better and better in his later years.
  • Posts: 15,123
    boldfinger wrote:
    Thanks a lot for posting that @Suivez_ce_parachute! I always dig such behind-the-scenes stories.

    It makes me dizzy to see how blind, unimaginative and stupid some people in high places were, and probably still are. William of Baskerville didn´t remind me in any way of James Bond when the film came out. And how can you speak of "an actor on his decline"? Especially Connery got only better and better in his later years.

    Paramount did not want Marlon Brando in The Godfather because he was supposed to be box office poison at the time. I cannot seriously imagine anybody else as William of Baskerville.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 5,767
    Marlon Brando box office poison? What was he supposed to have done to warrant that? Just shows how right Clooney is in slamming Loeb.



    Well, if you´re box office poison, you can always change your name to Carlos Esteves ;-).
  • Posts: 15,123
    From the documentaries and articles I read, Brando had done a string of poorly received and/or financially unsuccessful movies in the late 60s, some musical comedies especially and he was at the time considered a has been.
  • Posts: 5,767
    Ludovico wrote:
    From the documentaries and articles I read, Brando had done a string of poorly received and/or financially unsuccessful movies in the late 60s, some musical comedies especially and he was at the time considered a has been.
    I´m wondering of many actors that is thought at this time. Is it the actor´s poor choice or films companies´ misjudgment that leads to so many poor films and performances of DeNiro, Pacino, Ford, and so many other actors who could actually be in their golden age?

  • Posts: 15,123
    boldfinger wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    From the documentaries and articles I read, Brando had done a string of poorly received and/or financially unsuccessful movies in the late 60s, some musical comedies especially and he was at the time considered a has been.
    I´m wondering of many actors that is thought at this time. Is it the actor´s poor choice or films companies´ misjudgment that leads to so many poor films and performances of DeNiro, Pacino, Ford, and so many other actors who could actually be in their golden age?

    I think it is a combination of many things: overconfidence in one's acting talent, a tendency to typecast from some companies, the use of big names as tickets selling magnet regardless of the quality of the project, etc. Sometimes there is also cynicism on the part of the actor. Malcolm McDowell said in an interview that he chooses his roles regardless of the script, which he rarely reads, but according to how much they are willing to pay him. And that's why he ended up in some soft porn productions. But he didn't care.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited August 2013 Posts: 11,139
    "Let me read, boy" I can her big Tam's Dr.Henry Jones SR's Scottish drawl perfectly.
  • Posts: 15,123
    I am kind of in the mood to watch it now.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 2,015
    boldfinger wrote:
    Is it the actor´s poor choice or films companies´ misjudgment that leads to so many poor films and performances of DeNiro, Pacino, Ford, and so many other actors who could actually be in their golden age?

    The career of an actor according to the producer's mind (a joke I heard on the set of a movie). Insert your favorite actor here

    "Who's DeNiro ?"
    "I want DeNiro"
    "Find me a cheaper DeNiro"
    "Find me a younger DeNiro"
    "Who's DeNiro ?"

    So the period where producers can fully back the actors is quite short, then they think they become too expensive for the budget and then too old to lead a movie.. (don't forget sometimes the agents won't allow their actors to sign for less than their "usual fee", it's all about lawyers).

    PS for the context : remember, in 83, he lost the "battle of the Bonds", when NSNA did less than Octopussy. 84 and 85 : no movies. 86 : Name of the Rose + Highlander, and then back in action...


  • Posts: 5,634
    I've seen the movie and it's really a very good watch, although with some dark moments and some scenes that some may find upsetting. A young Christian Slater was also featured as was Michael Lonsdale if I remember. Not Connery's greatest hour on film, but highly recommended to those that have yet (and the stomach) to see it. Connery did so much better here, than he did in Highlander, which I believe was released around the same time
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    Wait, hold the phone! Sean Connery in a film that pays tribute to Sherlock Holmes?! How have I not seen this yet?!
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    Really good film and Connery was better in this than he was in his Oscar Winning performance in Untouchables. I think he is far more convincing as a Franciscan Monk than he is an Irish beat cop.

    Connery carries his performance in De Palma's film with his weight and charisma but he's just playing Sean Connery in In The Name of The Rose I believe he is the character and can forget he was Bond. I'm afraid there aren't many roles where Sean steps outside of his usual persona but NOTR was one , I think he really goes for it in the Offence, undoubtedly some of his finest work as an actor.

    Connery will never be able to make people forget Bond as he isn't that an amazing an actor but the baggage of being the first and what is widely accepted as the best Bond does not help matters, on the occasion he steps out being SC he can deliver some truly great work but this is few and far between, yes he's very entertaining in Untouchables and the likes of The Rock but these aren't any great stretches for the man.

    Some actors just have to accept being one thing a star or an actor some can manage both but they have far more versatility than Connery has ever been able to display, De Niro or Pacino he ain't (In their prime that is).
  • Posts: 15,123
    Wait, hold the phone! Sean Connery in a film that pays tribute to Sherlock Holmes?! How have I not seen this yet?!

    And he plays a misogynistic monk, utterly uninterested in sex.
  • Posts: 1,817
    Ludovico wrote:
    Wait, hold the phone! Sean Connery in a film that pays tribute to Sherlock Holmes?! How have I not seen this yet?!

    And he plays a misogynistic monk, utterly uninterested in sex.

    Actually it's the original novel by Umberto Eco (who loves playing with intertextual references) which pays tribute to Conan Doyle: the monk's name (played by Connery in the movie) is called William of Baskerville and his novice's name is Adso (which is similar to Watson and with the Italian slang word for penis.)
    I strongely recommend you to read the novel first!
    Eco himself didn't like the movie... but I think it's enjoyable to see it as Annaud's interpretation of the text (and nothing more.)
  • Posts: 5,767
    Shardlake wrote:
    Really good film and Connery was better in this than he was in his Oscar Winning performance in Untouchables. I think he is far more convincing as a Franciscan Monk than he is an Irish beat cop.
    Anyone with the panache to play an Irish cop with such a strong Scottish accent deserves an Oscar.
    Shardlake wrote:
    Connery will never be able to make people forget Bond as he isn't that an amazing an actor but the baggage of being the first and what is widely accepted as the best Bond does not help matters
    I feel that most roles I saw Connery in apart from Bond didn´t remind me of Bond at all. Marnie, or that Cuba flick would be two films where he reminds me of Bond, but Highlander, TNOTR, The Untouchables, Forrester, The Rock, nothing there reminds me of Bond.

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Wait, hold the phone! Sean Connery in a film that pays tribute to Sherlock Holmes?! How have I not seen this yet?!

    You never watched it? Just leave everything, pick a copy, and watch it. Then read the book. By the way, I once read a wonderful essay on the literary Bond by Umberto Eco.

    Funny story, The Name of the Rose was the film my mother didn't allow me to watch, it impressed her so much when she first saw it. When I went to Uni the film was showing on TV the very first night I moved. Needless to say I watched it in transe, it was the symbol of my adulthood, I was now free to decide if it was too impressive for me. I have to agree it is impressive. And Connery is great in it, oh yesh!
  • Posts: 15,123
    Eco's essay in Bond is great.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    boldfinger wrote:
    Shardlake wrote:
    Really good film and Connery was better in this than he was in his Oscar Winning performance in Untouchables. I think he is far more convincing as a Franciscan Monk than he is an Irish beat cop.
    Anyone with the panache to play an Irish cop with such a strong Scottish accent deserves an Oscar.
    Shardlake wrote:
    Connery will never be able to make people forget Bond as he isn't that an amazing an actor but the baggage of being the first and what is widely accepted as the best Bond does not help matters
    I feel that most roles I saw Connery in apart from Bond didn´t remind me of Bond at all. Marnie, or that Cuba flick would be two films where he reminds me of Bond, but Highlander, TNOTR, The Untouchables, Forrester, The Rock, nothing there reminds me of Bond.

    I'm not referring to a fan like yourself who is likely to say such a thing as you can't bear any criticism of one of your heroes I talking about Connery's acceptance by the general public as mostly being Bond, are we now going to say that Connery didn't have a type casting issue? In my view he's never got over it.
  • Posts: 1,817
    Sandy wrote:
    You never watched it? Just leave everything, pick a copy, and watch it. Then read the book. By the way, I once read a wonderful essay on the literary Bond by Umberto Eco.

    The narrative structures of Ian Fleming. It's a great essay and I think Eco is a true fan.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 5,767
    Shardlake wrote:
    I'm not referring to a fan like yourself who is likely to say such a thing as you can't bear any criticism of one of your heroes I talking about Connery's acceptance by the general public as mostly being Bond, are we now going to say that Connery didn't have a type casting issue? In my view he's never got over it.
    No you´re completely misinterpreting me. I was never such a big Connery fan "who is likely to say such a thing" (why is a fan likely to say such a thing at all? and what is that can´t bear criticism bs?) I am referring to Connery, beyond the name, not at all looking like Bond in those films. If the general public wouldn´t see his name anywhere noone would think of Bond in those films.

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    0013 wrote:
    Sandy wrote:
    You never watched it? Just leave everything, pick a copy, and watch it. Then read the book. By the way, I once read a wonderful essay on the literary Bond by Umberto Eco.

    The narrative structures of Ian Fleming. It's a great essay and I think Eco is a true fan.

    Yes, that's the one! I'm pretty sure I read it online, I'll look into it and if I find the link I'll post it here.
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