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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited April 2017 Posts: 8,395
    Getafix wrote: »
    I have never watched any of the prequels all the way through but the snippets I've seen were truly abysmal. Everything with Anakin looked horrendous. I caught the lava flow battle between Anakin and Obi Wan on TV somewhere and couldn't believe how awful it looked. George Lucas is clearly insane and lost what genius he may once have had. A shame he also managed to totally screw up Indy 4 with his atrocious story as well. Thank god he's sold both franchises so he can no longer wreck them.

    He didn't lose the genius, he gained a commercialism. When ESB didn't do as well as STAR WARS, he panicked and that's why the series took the course that it did, starting with family-friendly Ewoks in RotJ.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    I have never watched any of the prequels all the way through but the snippets I've seen were truly abysmal. Everything with Anakin looked horrendous. I caught the lava flow battle between Anakin and Obi Wan on TV somewhere and couldn't believe how awful it looked. George Lucas is clearly insane and lost what genius he may once have had. A shame he also managed to totally screw up Indy 4 with his atrocious story as well. Thank god he's sold both franchises so he can no longer wreck them.

    He didn't lose the genius, he gained a commercialism. When ESB didn't do as well as STAR WARS, he panicked and that's why the series took the course that it did, starting with family-friendly Ewoks in RotJ.

    I hadn't heard that theory before.

    Haven't rewatched ROTJ for about 20 years! I'm pretty sure it's still better than the prequels though.



  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Strangely I enjoy both TFA and Rogue One but R1 definitely played better on a 2nd viewing whereas TFA while good fun on it's 2nd and 3rd watch I saw even more the remake issue about it.

    Don't get me wrong It's miles better than the prequels but R1 for me is definitely a stronger film, if TLJ isn't better I will be disappointed.

    I accept TFA had to go there but if TLJ doesn't move into territories new and really blow me away then I will walk out the theatre deflated, I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment but I have faith Rian Johnson is going to give us the best SW film since ESB and by that it isn't a clone of that film.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    Rumor: 'Mr. Robot' creator Sam Esmail may write a 'Star Wars' spin-off:

    http://www.slashfilm.com/rumor-mr-robot-creator-writing-star-wars/
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
    Posts: 1,812
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Strangely I enjoy both TFA and Rogue One but R1 definitely played better on a 2nd viewing whereas TFA while good fun on it's 2nd and 3rd watch I saw even more the remake issue about it.

    Don't get me wrong It's miles better than the prequels but R1 for me is definitely a stronger film, if TLJ isn't better I will be disappointed.

    I accept TFA had to go there but if TLJ doesn't move into territories new and really blow me away then I will walk out the theatre deflated, I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment but I have faith Rian Johnson is going to give us the best SW film since ESB and by that it isn't a clone of that film.

    I think there is going to be some similarities to ESB that are going to be unavoidable. Like Rey's training from Luke (Luke's training from Yoda), we're supposed to find out who Rey's parents are (finding out Vader is Luke's father), and it's supposed to be the darkest of the sequel trilogy (like ESB to the OT). There may be more but we won't find out until the release of The Last Jedi. I just hope there's not so much that I have to listen to continuous complaints from "fans."
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    QsAssistant wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Strangely I enjoy both TFA and Rogue One but R1 definitely played better on a 2nd viewing whereas TFA while good fun on it's 2nd and 3rd watch I saw even more the remake issue about it.

    Don't get me wrong It's miles better than the prequels but R1 for me is definitely a stronger film, if TLJ isn't better I will be disappointed.

    I accept TFA had to go there but if TLJ doesn't move into territories new and really blow me away then I will walk out the theatre deflated, I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment but I have faith Rian Johnson is going to give us the best SW film since ESB and by that it isn't a clone of that film.

    I think there is going to be some similarities to ESB that are going to be unavoidable. Like Rey's training from Luke (Luke's training from Yoda), we're supposed to find out who Rey's parents are (finding out Vader is Luke's father), and it's supposed to be the darkest of the sequel trilogy (like ESB to the OT). There may be more but we won't find out until the release of The Last Jedi. I just hope there's not so much that I have to listen to continuous complaints from "fans."

    I think as you say the similarities are unavoidable but TFA was at times a blue print, TLJ needs to avoid that, I think Johnson knows he's got to make something different.

    He replied to a tweet very recently to some fans rather sarcastically that course he'd been remaking ESB for the last 3 years.

    JJ got the job because he successfully relaunched Star Trek to a new audience and did that by using moments from the series and fashioning it into a new story which we got with TFA but once they've got the audience back I think Kennedy & Lucas Film know they can't pull the same trick again going forward, I think I hope that TJA is something very special indeed, it needs to be.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Rumor: 'Mr. Robot' creator Sam Esmail may write a 'Star Wars' spin-off:

    http://www.slashfilm.com/rumor-mr-robot-creator-writing-star-wars/

    More Kenobi rumours. I would be fine with that.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    I enjoyed both TFA and R1. Much better than I was expecting.

    Not classics but I've never been a huge Star Wars fan to start with - in fact I find the originals pretty dull. The prequels just seem like total drek - haven't been able to bring myself to watch any of them all the way through.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    The film should be a Vader film inbetween 5 and 6
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Can we please squeese some more Palpatine in there somewhere?
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
    Posts: 1,812
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    The film should be a Vader film inbetween 5 and 6

    That would make for an interesting film, especially after finding out Luke is his son.
    Honestly though, I'd rather have a Vader film that takes place between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. We could actually have lightsaber fights with Vader hunting down the remaining Jedi.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I'd like to see Ian McDiarmaid given another shot. Best part of the Prequels, aside from Yoda and Qui-Gon.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ...and Darth Maul. Don t forget Maul.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I liked Maul in Phantom Menace, but he didn't hit his stride until Clone Wars.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    That probably because we didn't know a thing about him until the Clone Wars. A prequel movie to TPM could help his character too.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I dunno. There's a comic miniseries trying to do that, and it's not doing so well.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    Yeah but a Star Wars comic and a Star Wars movie are completely two different things to the general public.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    That's a shame, too.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Lmao
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    =))
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Love it. :))
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    'Star Wars: Episode IX' will now release on May 24th, 2019:

    http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-episode-9-release-date/#more-412548
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    So an entire STAR WARS trilogy released between Bond 24 and Bond 25, not to mention the spin-off films.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Disney can afford to do that. Eon's not a huge super mega company.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    So an entire STAR WARS trilogy released between Bond 24 and Bond 25, not to mention the spin-off films.

    That actually would be pretty hilarious if a whole Star Wars trilogy is released in between two of Craig's Bond films.

    Reporter: "So, what's with the longer spans between Bond films these days?"

    Barbara: "Well you know, Daniel wants to pursue other opportunities and we support him in that."
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  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    So an entire STAR WARS trilogy released between Bond 24 and Bond 25, not to mention the spin-off films.

    That actually would be pretty hilarious if a whole Star Wars trilogy is released in between two of Craig's Bond films.

    Reporter: "So, what's with the longer spans between Bond films these days?"

    Barbara: "Well you know, Daniel wants to pursue other opportunities and we support him in that."
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    Lol.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
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    Agent007391 wrote: »

    I bet these were a flying machine in the shops.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    Could this be how Luke's Academy failed?

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