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"If you're gonna ask people to pay money to come see you in a movie, they don't need to know your every thought all the time. I think there has to be some element of mystery. There's a real danger when you're really famous. I can have a drink or two at night; I don't need to have an apparatus that, in a drunken joke, even, I could say something, go to sleep, and wake up in the morning and my career be over.”
Absolutely true. Especially in acting, you'd think any air of mystery you could put over yourself would only aid in your career. It's possible it's partly why actors like Daniel Day Lewis are so highly regarded; we don't really know anything about them on the day-to-day level, nothing to compare their work to.
I think what both you and @MakeshiftPython here are saying is quite true. I think social media is entirely to blame. It clearly has many good points, but it is leading to quite an intolerant culture where things get very nasty very quickly.
Re: the private/public thing, I understand people are posting online for the world to see, but also social media has sort of taken over the public sphere. It is where people meet and get together and talk. Plus because in lockdown countries you can't physically meet people it means that it even more resembles a public place.
My entire point is not to defend Carano or anyone else. But just that the freedom of speech principle needs to be defended at all costs. It is a cornerstone of liberty, along with freedom of association and freedom of assembly (also rights under threat). They all need to be defended vigorously. None of them are perfect, but a world without them is genuinely one of tyranny. It really is, and has been proven time and again throughout history.
I have honestly been disappointed with The Mandalorian. Haven't even finished the second season yet, although I will trudge through it. I know most of the spoilers about who turns up, so I want to see how that's handled.
Have you all got/seen the Despecialized Editions? I can't watch the versions publicly available now. I have to stick the originals. I have the despecialized versions, as well as my old widescreen VHS tapes that don't look as bad as you would think when played through a big TV (I watched them on a TV that still had a scart socket).
I've really enjoyed the Mandalorian, but I'm a huge Fett fan so that's probably why I've been enjoying it so much. In some cases you can really see the limited budget, and my least favourite episode so far is The Sanctuary (I think?), the one directed by BDH where they fight the AT-ST. That bit was admittedly cool, but the writing on the show has been iffy at times, and IMO that episode was the worst of it.
Literally can't remember whether I have seen that episode yet or not. Which number is it?
Not sure, it's halfway through the first season approximately. It's where he nearly settles down with a wife to raise baby Yoda.
Got the DVDs years ago, glad to have them!
I have seen all season one so I have watched that. Don't remember it though. The Mandalorian has its moments, but hasn't excited me yet.
Disney decided they no longer wanted to pay and employ a person who publicly, willfully, and constantly expressed her opinions, which Disney decided weren’t in line with the image Disney wants to convey. I’m sorry if it offends you that companies aren’t legally required to keep their employees on their payroll until the end of time, but that isn’t how it works it seems.
Opinions are like dicks, right? Certainly okay to have them, they come in all shapes and sizes and shades of colour, but constantly flouting them in public forums *may* lead to some consequences. It’s what being a human being in society is all about!
As we’ve been discussing already which you may or may not have taken a look at, the existence of social media has in some cases blown these consequences into the stratosphere, and there’s certainly a debate to be had about its role in the current climate. Read above posts for more discussion on this. I put a lot of fault on social media, but I can hardly fault Lucasfilm here.
How can you be fired from employment because of where you sit on the political spectrum, hate speech or incitement aside?
For what it’s worth I don’t really care whether people use pronouns on their social, but it’s down the individual rather than the pressure of the mob
Many people who claim to be liberal give us a bad name through ill thought out, babyish, permanently offended whining, or an insistence that people are not allowed to think differently from themselves.
In people’s deaths, or a president incurring bigotry and insurrection - it’s in nobodies interests to pass the buck in terms of consequences under the guise of free speech IMO.
You know, bullying someone online to the point they commit suicide is defendable free speech by that definition
Max Lloyd-Jones just came into my work and I talked to him a bit, he’s they guy who
Exciting!
Almost broke and watched these scenes on YouTube. Think I am going to try and sift through the rest of series 2 tomorrow. Would prefer to watch in its episode context.
I haven't checked on IMDB or anything, but what are the plans for the next three films? I heard originally that Rian Johnson was supposed to be making a new trilogy unconnected to the Skywalker stuff. I assume those plans are on hold now?
Those appear to still be on the back burner. Presumably, Lucasfilm is going to water the garden of the TV landscape for a few years before the Rogue Squadron film, then maybe another standalone or two before delving back into another trilogy, thus giving Johnson plenty of time to plot them out.
Thanks. Yes, I heard there's an Obi Wan series on the way.
It wasn't just a simple case of expressing an opinion of a certain political ideology, she was flat out posting falsities like comparing US American conservatives to the Jews that were hunted and executed in WWII. Stuff like that pisses people off, and the last thing Disney wants is to have someone under their employee that's unnecessarily stirring up controversy by posting lies on the internet.
Exactly; you can't really trivialise the Holocaust and expect to remain in a job with Disney.
Since they thought nothing of making a film in next to a concentration camp - as in an active concentration camp, happening right now - then I would say their stance against trivialising the holocaust is pretty hollow, yes.
What was the Pascal tweet?
It's not quite the same as Carano's tweet but I see the point that it is crass.
People being upset at loud right wing people is not a good comparison for the jews being hunted and cooked alive by the Nazis.
I still see no problem with Gina being fired and Pedro not. And it isn't a matter of political leaning. If I posted on my instagram that I was upset because "people getting mad at me is what it must have felt like to be a jewish person in 1930's Germany!!", I'd fully expect to get fired from my shitty restaurant job. If I posted on my instagram that "children in cages is a lot like children in cages!" I'd probably not expect to get fired from my shitty restaurant job.
Yes there's not a massive false equivalency being drawn there!