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Anyway, I'm a sucker for epic villains returning. Joker, Blofeld, Palpatine,.. yeah, I cannot deny that I'm always happy to see these nemeses of old take the stage again. No matter how silly, I got a kick out of seeing Palpatine again. I'm a bit of a geek in that sense. 😉
Same here! At least this time, EON has a chance to build up Blofeld, akin to a Star Wars villain.
Episode 8 has a weak story but a strong romance
Episode 5 has a strong story and a strong romance.
@FoxRox : I followed this pattern as well.
As a kid, I loved Star Wars, and I watched Trek with my dad.
As a mid-teen, I started to love Trek, the series and films.
Then the SW prequels came out and I lost my love for the films, although I do have a soft spot for the original three.
My love for ST TOS, TNG, Picard S3, and the films remains…
It wasn’t until I started going to college that I then started to actually watch the shows through Netflix DVD, and I think I can say from that point on I was starting to strongly prefer Trek over Wars.
Now I never miss any Trek. I’m more excited to see LOWER DECKS than whatever TV show/mini-series Star Wars is churning out. I’ve only watched MANDALORIAN and OBI-WAN, and have zero interest in any of the other shows.
I’ve always held the attitude that Star Trek is better off staying on television. My feeling is that Star Wars is better off sticking as a film series.
I am a much bigger Star Trek fan than Star Wars, IMO there is far more Great Star Trek than there is great Star Wars.
I agree with you on the way they should be made. Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi should have been films. Way too much filler, and in particular if there is not going to be a season 2 for either series. It's a shame that Solo bombed. I'm still hoping for Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron movie.
https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-mcu-blu-rays-revealed/
Still, Mandalorian (first two seasons only), Rogue One & Andor were great IMHO.
I refused to watch Boba Fett because I absolutely reject the idea of his death in ROTJ being retconned. For me, Boba Fett, Darth Maul, and Palpatine should have stayed dead.
I agree with this. While it was cool to see Maul behind the events of Solo, I understand anyone’s opinion why he should have stayed dead (or survived TPM). Bringing Palpatine back was just desperation on everyone’s part. I think while Carrie Fisher dying didn’t help, Colin Trevorrow wasn’t going to be great with Star Wars. I was always a bit nervous about him, as soon as he was announced. I think episode 9 was always going to be a tough battle for everyone, and JJ Abrams was the equivalent of Sam Mendes on Spectre: I think he was the best person for THAT particular story. Even if it felt like fan fiction at times. So all in all, the Disney Star Wars can’t be blamed on one person alone. Just like any movie or video game series.
One last thing, I’d be a bit nervous about James Mangold and his Dawn of The Jedi movie. After Indiana Jones bombed (a Lucasfilm production, no less), I’d be a little curious about the state of him and the movie, honestly. If all goes right, we’ll have 2 Star Wars movies filming by the end of the year.
Though funnily, even if the ST had the benefit of having three years between films, TROS would have been impacted by COVID during production. Like I said, this movie seemed damned.
Yes, I agree with you on your points. That being said, I still really TROS as it is. It's fun, and Star Wars can correct itself. Just keep certain people away from it. Like Bond, I'm always interested in where Star Wars (and to a degree Trek) goes. Unlimited potential for adventures.
The moment we saw Palpatine again in TROS, I pumped a fist, screamed "HELL YEAH!" and never stopped grooving with the movie. TROS felt like a return to the happy, uncomplicated, silly fun of Star Wars. Is it a perfect movie? Heeeeeell, no! No SW movie is, IMO. But the party was on. That's what it felt like to me.
It's all subjective, of course. I prefer SW over ESB; I prefer RO out of all the Disney SW films. Perhaps I'm not your typical SW fan. ;-)
My understanding of Lucas’ original treatments is that VII was a lot more like TLJ where a young girl (named Kira in this treatment) finds Luke as an old hermit after losing a pupil to the dark side, and becomes her teacher, and he dies much like how Obi-Wan did in IV and Qui-Gon in I, basically repeating the formula of the first episode of the trilogy.
So I like to imagine a version of VII where the first half is introducing the new characters, get rid of Starkiller base entirely so you can then move onto that story with Rey finding a dejected Luke and so on. It would then feel like a complete first chapter of a new trilogy the way both TPM and ANH did. That was something that bothered me about TFA ending on a literal cliffhanger with Rey meeting Luke, what happened to Ben after defeat, and Finn being in a coma. Second chapters of a trilogy like AOTC and TESB didn’t need to pick up right where the first left off and tie up loose ends left by the first.
In retrospect, TFA could work if it wasn’t the beginning of a trilogy but rather an ongoing series. You drop the pretense of a trilogy and have it be a soap opera, where we get a new chapter every few years. That’s actually what I thought Disney might do, because why set up IX as the final chapter when we already had one with VI?
Severely agree with you here.
TESB was at its release seen as okay but underwhelming due to many wanting and expecting another movie like the original, and that’s not what EMPIRE was. It wasn’t until the 90s that it seemed to have grown in rep as the best of the trilogy.
I remember when ROTS came out that most would concede that it was the best of the prequels but still a let down. But now it’s usually ranked among the top two with the emergence of younger generations like millennials and gen z changing the dialogue around prequels. I’m sure if I just jumped on a Reddit and declared ROTS at #7 and TLJ at #3 I’d be accused of trolling and bad faith.