Rambo TV series announced

edited August 2013 in General Movies & TV Posts: 12,837
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/21/rambo-tv-series-announced-sylvester-stallone-could-be-involved

Maybe have it as a prequel set during the Vietnam war, with a younger Rambo and Trautman? With old Rambo (Sly) narrating it in the present day.

Personally though I'd prefer it if they set it after the last film and if it starred Stallone. Make it more like First Blood and give the character a send off he deserves.

Either way I hope this series gets off the ground soon. I'd hate it if the 4th film was the last we saw of the character. I really didn't like that much at all.
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  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I'll expect the worst, that way it should be alright on the night... If it even happens.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/21/rambo-tv-series-announced-sylvester-stallone-could-be-involved

    Maybe have it as a prequel set during the Vietnam war, with a younger Rambo and Trautman? With old Rambo (Sly) narrating it in the present day.

    Personally though I'd prefer it if they set it after the last film and if it starred Stallone. Make it more like First Blood and give the character a send off he deserves.

    Either way I hope this series gets off the ground soon. I'd hate it if the 4th film was the last we saw of the character. I really didn't like that much at all.

    I can see a Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk style show working where Rambo wanders from town to town getting into scrapes. Maybe.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Samuel001 wrote:
    If it even happens.

    That's something we have to consider. What happened Beverly Hills Cop TV show?
    I can see a Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk style show working where Rambo wanders from town to town getting into scrapes. Maybe.

    That could work. Would you have it set now, with Sly, or have a younger actor and set it before First Blood?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2013 Posts: 13,359
    Samuel001 wrote:
    If it even happens.

    That's something we have to consider. What happened Beverly Hills Cop TV show?

    Quite and now they're going back to another film. Will the same happen to Rambo?
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    That's something we have to consider. What happened Beverly Hills Cop TV show?

    It was scrapped after the network viewed the pilot. Paramount have recently announced plans for the 4th film in the franchise instead.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Seriously I hope this doesn't happen. I like the Rambo films but I don't need this thing. If they want a Vietnam series or whatever, at least make up fresh new characters. Don't try to squeeze someone else into Stallone's muscles and pretend he is Rambo. It's Stallone or no Rambo at all IMO. And given Stallone's age, I'm happy with them leaving the series alone.
  • It only clearly illustrates that Hollywood is clearly out of original ideas for both movies and television.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I can see a Bill Bixby Incredible Hulk style show working where Rambo wanders from town to town getting into scrapes. Maybe.

    That could work. Would you have it set now, with Sly, or have a younger actor and set it before First Blood?

    I think it can only work with Sly so lets just follow on from Rambo IV with him coming home, maybe finding his old man is dead and the bailiffs are taking the house so hes left homeless and is back to square one as in First Blood.

    The thing is keeping it credible. Can he really go to a new town every week, kick off against whoever (even if it is the local scum rather than the police) and then just move on? I suppose if hes killing drug dealers and the like then the police arent going to go to too much effort to track him down.

    Kind of a combination of Death Wish and the Hulk perhaps?

    To be honest the more I think about it the dodgier it sounds.
  • Interesting to see if this will work and who would be in it. There seems to be quite a few tv shows riding off the success of their movie counterparts at the moment, such as Hannibal and Bates Motel. Maybe one day my dream of a show based on the classic era of the 'novel' Bond set in the 1950's will happen. Can only hope a dream!
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    Nooooooo! Joking aside, cant writers come up with something original. Love Rambo well 1 and 4, this could cheapen those great movies.
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    It only clearly illustrates that Hollywood is clearly out of original ideas for both movies and television.

    It is simply brand recognition. It is easier to sell a series with a character that is very popular than risking starting one from scratch. That said I am not interested about it. I think First Blood was good enough, the sequels were superfluous.

    Although I'd love a very faithful adaptation of the original novel.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    IMHO, I love the idea of a Rambo series. I don't see Stallone being committed to a Rambo series (only another movie) other than to produce it and maybe direct the occasional episode.
    I don't think it should be part of Stallone's Rambo; it needs to be a reimaging. Rambo should be an Iraq/Afghanistan war veteran and the show should take place right after the events of "First Blood". He could just be a drifter on the run going from town to town or, if the budget is decent, he could travel the world.
    Another scenario could have it based off "First Blood Part II". The government captures Rambo after the events of "First Blood" and gives him a choice, go to prison or work for them; creating a military type show.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    IMHO, I love the idea of a Rambo series. I don't see Stallone being committed to a Rambo series (only another movie) other than to produce it and maybe direct the occasional episode.
    I don't think it should be part of Stallone's Rambo; it needs to be a reimaging. Rambo should be an Iraq/Afghanistan war veteran and the show should take place right after the events of "First Blood". He could just be a drifter on the run going from town to town or, if the budget is decent, he could travel the world.
    Another scenario could have it based off "First Blood Part II". The government captures Rambo after the events of "First Blood" and gives him a choice, go to prison or work for them; creating a military type show.

    Except the events after First Blood are that hes in prison.

    The government do capture him and give a choice of going to prison or working for them. Its called Rambo: First Blood Part II.

    The only option would be to set it in Vietnam (dull - been done to death already) or between Rambo II and Rambo III or Rambo III and Rambo IV.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Typical, I bet they saw how successful Hannibal had revitalised the franchise ( Mads is officially the best Lecter) but Rambo, Stallone has pretty much lost my respect with the utter garbage that is The Expendables and haven't they not learned from the Beverly Hills Cop TV pilot that didn't even make it to series?

    Creativity seems in poor supply if this makes it past the drawing board, First Blood is class Rambo & Rambo 3 rubbish, where 4 was an improvement do we really need a TV series as well?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2013 Posts: 13,359
    With Stallone involved will this be a step above awful? One can only hope. He better not star in it as well, mind.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 12,837
    I'm probably one of the few people that prefers the first two sequels to the 4th film. The fourth movie does the character better than the other sequels but I don't like the film itself.

    Seemed gory for the sake of it and it wasn't moving like First Blood, it was just really violent and depressing.

    FB Part 2 and Rambo 3 were stupid but fun and I really enjoy them.

    @TheWizardOfIce I think that's the best way of doing it. Make him a Jack Reacher type drifter again. Set it in the US after the last movie. Have Stallone starring.

    That's what I'd like to see. And although if they did this they couldn't properly capture the spirit of First Blood (they wouldn't be able to play up the under appreciated war hero idea if it was set now), they could make it closer to that in some ways (lowering the bodycount massively for a start).
    Samuel001 wrote:
    He better not star in it as well, mind.

    I'd much rather have him starring than someone else.
    Ludovico wrote:
    Although I'd love a very faithful adaptation of the original novel.

    That's not a bad idea. A one off mini series that's a more faithful adaption of the book. I'm still not very keen on the idea though because I don't want anyone but Stallone playing Rambo.

    I think they should just make a 5th film to give the character a good send off. Maybe even give it the ending of the original book (although obviously there'd have to be some changes).

    How I'd end the 5th film is this: Rambo, having just finished a fight against whoever the baddies are, decides that there's no point carrying on fighting and prepares to kill himself with some sort of explosive (dynamite might seem a bit outdated now). He then spots another couple of enemies coming and decides it'd more honourable to die in battle. To his surprise though, even though by now he's properly f***ed up and dying of his injuries, he manages to kill them.

    He's now too weak to activate the explosive and collapses, slowly dying from the injuries he's suffered. Then someone he didn't notice shoots him from behind with a shotgun, Rambo smiles, happy with his death, and dies.

    I think that's about as faithful to the end of the novel as you can make it now, after the other films. The basic idea is still the same though, it's just some details are different.

    Speaking of the books, has anyone read the novelisations of the sequels? I've just found out that they're by the same author who wrote the original book so I might give them a read at some point.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 5,767
    In the past they used to make films based on tv series. Now they make tv series based films. Next they will make tv series based on films based on tv series.


    Speaking of the books, has anyone read the novelisations of the sequels? I've just found out that they're by the same author who wrote the original book so I might give them a read at some point.
    I read the first two novels, but that was in my give-me-blood-and-violence teenage days, so I can´t really judge them according to their literary value ;-). I think the second one was as good as the first one.


  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    ... which was based on an old reality show. ;)

    Actually, I am happy that Stallone has had such a great resurgence in his career due to The Expendables films. The only take on this TV show I like would be as The Wizard and LivingRoyale have said: like a drifter, similar to Reacher.

    Heck, I'd like a Jack Reacher TV show if well cast with good stories, etc.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2013 Posts: 13,359
    Crossovers from one to the other are almost always a bad idea and signal a last ditch attempt at some more cash from something well past it's prime.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Heck, I'd like a Jack Reacher TV show if well cast with good stories, etc.

    I was just thinking about this after my last post.

    I think if it was well cast it'd have lots of potential. They could even have a crack at adapting the books if they did it ala Sherlock, 3 mini movies a year.

    The Tom Cruise version isn't going to get any sequels apparently so why not. They should try to find an actor who looks much more like Reacher this time though.

    Although like with Rambo, I'd prefer another film (the difference being I'm all for a recast in this case).
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    Actually, I am happy that Stallone has had such a great resurgence in his career due to The Expendables films.
    Just read that shooting The Expendables 3 has begun :-) .

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2013 Posts: 12,489
    Heck, I'd like a Jack Reacher TV show if well cast with good stories, etc.

    I was just thinking about this after my last post.

    I think if it was well cast it'd have lots of potential. They could even have a crack at adapting the books if they did it ala Sherlock, 3 mini movies a year.

    Man, I'd love that. Cast the right physical type of actor this time.
    Yes, it could be a great series if done intelligently.

    AND if it were done like the Sherlock BBC series, perfect! But in America, we don't do TV like that so well. In my opinion.

    (new topic I know ...)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Here's some press release, type thing, on the matter:

    “Rambo fans cover all demographics and we're confident that we'll quickly find this series a home,” said eOne TV CEO John Morayniss. Added Lerner, “I'm excited by the prospect of collaborating again with my good friend Sly for an encore in this next phase of the Rambo legacy.” Lerner and Stallone worked together on the 2008 Rambo feature and had planned a fifth installment, which had been put on hold. The two also are collaborating on the Expendables film franchise, currently filming its third installment in Bulgaria.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 6,396
    boldfinger wrote:
    Actually, I am happy that Stallone has had such a great resurgence in his career due to The Expendables films.
    Just read that shooting The Expendables 3 has begun :-) .

    Mel Gibson is the movie's main antagonist as Conrad Stonebanks, co-founder of The Expendables
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Hmmm. Is Sly confirmed for being in it (the TV show)??

    Yeah, I enjoy the Expendables movies.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 12,837
    I didn't like Expendables 1 much but I loved the second film. Can't wait for the 3rd one.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Hmmm. Is Sly confirmed for being in it (the TV show)??

    He could make a cameo but he's not confirmed. He is involved at a creative level, though.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I'd like him in a cameo maybe; if he is in on the creative level, that is a good thing. But a different actor, yes. And why would Sly want to do a weekly TV show? If it even would be weekly. He doesn't need the grind. He's got probably another 2 good Expendables films in him, at least.
  • edited August 2013 Posts: 12,837
    The article I posted says "and to possibly reprise his role as John Rambo", so there's some hope I think of him starring.

    Although he's still a fairly big film star so I don't think there's much chance. I can't see myself enjoying it much if they recast it, I don't want anyone but Stallone playing Rambo.
    boldfinger wrote:
    Actually, I am happy that Stallone has had such a great resurgence in his career due to The Expendables films.
    Just read that shooting The Expendables 3 has begun :-) .

    Mel Gibson is the movie's main antagonist as Conrad Stonebanks, co-founder of The Expendables

    My guess is that Gibson's character is now leading a team of bad guys, sort of like an evil version of The Expendables, and this is where Chan, Snipes, etc, will fit into it.
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited August 2013 Posts: 18,412
    Never been a Rambo fan, but I do vividly remember our Maths teacher going apeshit when someone mentioned Rambo as he had been out in Vietnam and seen all too well the after-effects of the American intervention in Vietnam, including a man who had had his eyes gouged out by American soldiers and had had molten lead poured in his ears etc. So, safe to say, I never bought into Rambo's gung-ho all-American antics and I don't think I'm missing very much, either. Of course, the Viet Cong did many nasty things too, but it really was a pointless war that Harold Wilson had the good foresight to keep Britain well out of. One of his few good decisions, in my opinion.
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