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Anyway, I'm not quite sure which Bond film has the least Bond in it. The very early ones had a LOT of scenes that didn't feature Bond. Bond doesn't appear at all in Dr. No for about six or seven minutes I think. From Russia With Love is even more guilty; Bond doesn't appear for something like eighteen minutes! The PTS doesn't count, as that isn't Bond but rather a SPECTRE agent in a Bond mask.
If I were to hazard a guess at it I would definitely say FRWL. There's just so much that Bond doesn't appear in. The PTS, the first ten minutes after the titles, the bombing of Kerim Bey's office, the scenes with Blofeld... quite a lot in there.
Can't agree with your comments on GoldenEye. Bond is, essentially, in every single second of the PTS, then there's the DB5/Ferrari chase afterwards, the casino scene, the theft of the Tiger, and then he's even in London watching when Severnaya gets hit. You say Severnaya is when Bond is first there: you've got it wrong, my friend, Severnaya is instead the first time Bond ISN'T the highlight of the film. I'd chalk that down to the emphasis that Bond was back.
GoldenEye is certainly a Bond-heavy film, he's more or less in every single scene of the film, save for actually being IN Severnaya, and the stuff immediately after with Natalya. I'd probably argue Bond gets more screentime in GoldenEye than in most if not all of the others. That generally rings true, in fact, for all four of Brosnan's, except maybe TND, which featured Carver in a LOT of scenes.
Aside from that, the films have been pretty consistent with keeping Bond on screen for a vast majority of the film. My vote definitely goes to FRWL now that I think about it.
Disagree on GOldeneye. Theres a lot of cutaways to other characters. Even Boris gets a storyline, haha. Feels more like a team effort to me, does Goldeneye. Opinions like and all, haha. Thanks for the input though.
Octopussy when Gobinda gets hit by boiling steam
Mod edit: language!
What I think is more interesting is that for the first 50 mins of CR Bond is practically silent, he has maybe one big dialogue scene with M and even then he only says like 3 lines. I remember the first time I watched CR I was just sitting there waiting for DC to actually say something.
I think the relative discretion of Bond in the early movies has more to do with establishing his world and his enemies, and show what is at stakes. It was done masterfully I think. In DN it was a great way to build up his introduction. I wish they'd be a bit daring these days and do something similar sometimes.
FRWL and TB probably have to be the ones although YOLT has most of the PTS and a couple of long scenes in the middle with the second space hijack coming to land and Blofeld talking with Osato and the Chinese blokes.
When we say Bond on screen are we saying a scene he is in or when you can actually see him? Because in YOLT we have the sumo scene, the helicopter being carried off, the ninja camp and when it all kicks off at the end there are a lot of shots without him.
I think its going to end up being FRWL though.
We need someone (not me obviously) to go through every film with a stopwatch every time Bond appears.
TB is another good example though as so much is based around the plot machinations.
With films like OHMSS and CR, we hardly ever get away from Bond the entire movie, it's all from his pov.
That's why CR and OHMSS are two of the best, along with SF.
Not SF Draggers. There are loads of scenes with M and Mallory, M at the select committee not to mention cutting between Bond/Eve/M in the PTS and Bond/Q in the tube sequence. As a proportion of the run time its probably not that much but there is a significant amount of time when Bond is off screen.
Yes, that's what I meant by including SF in that list. Plus, I've not seen SF often enough yet!
Look at the short story of 'Octopussy' where Bond only has a very marginal role, or 'Quantum of Solace' for that matter.
You wouldn't be happiest, in the saddle, would you? :-?
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/dashboard/profile/comments/4500/Happiestinthesaddle (former troll)
Oh right. Just read one post of his. That was enough for me ;-)
Probably said From Russia With Love before, and see no reason to change it. If you think about it, more time is taken up with other characters, especially Bond's adversaries including Rosa Klebb, Kronsteen and Grant. Add to that, the Bond 'double' in the pre titles sequence. No other Bond releases really come to mind on this
Just a point for the interests of clarity - this thread was started by a well-known troll who was previously banned, returned to post this thread and was promptly banned again, so I would not lose too much sleep about it, really.