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I still think there's a better spot for FYEO.
1. Casino Royale
2. Skyfall
3. Goldeneye
4. Goldfinger
5. Spectre
6. From Russia With Love
7. The Spy Who Loved Me
8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
9. The Living Daylights
10. Quantum of Solace
11. Live and Let Die
12. Dr. No
13. The World is Not Enough
14. Thunderball
15. Moonraker
16. Octopussy
17. Tomorrow Never Dies
18. License to Kill
19. You Only Live Twice
20. A View to a Kill
21. Die Another Day
22. For Your Eyes Only
23. The Man With the Golden Gun
24. Diamonds are Forever
2. Goldfinger ↑1
3. Skyfall ↓2
4. From Russia With Love
5. Dr. No
6. Goldeneye
7. For Your Eyes Only ↑1
8. Tomorrow Never Dies ↑1
9. The Spy Who Loved Me ↑4
10. The Living Daylights
11. Quantum of Solace ↑1
12. On Her Majesty's Secret Service ↓1
13. You Only Live Twice ↑1
14. Octopussy ↑2
15. Spectre ↓8
16. Thunderball ↓1
17. The World Is Not Enough
18. Licence to Kill ↑3
19. Diamonds Are Forever ↓1
20. The Man With The Golden Gun
21. Live and Let Die ↓2
22. Die Another Day ↑2
23. Moonraker ↓1
24. A View to a Kill ↓1
There were some highlights with regard to drama and personal background. Like that little moment in the Mujabe Club when Anya tells Bond he was married. Or when Anya swears to kill Bond after Bond reveals he killed her loved one. Quite tense scenes, but very scarce in amount.
I personally think if "The Spy Who Loved Me" would be copy-pasted and if Bond was made much more simpler and less complicated, then people won't buy it anymore. One last thing, people really criticised the plot from the villain in "SPECTRE". But by jolly, creating an underwater world by destroying the worl with two atomic bombs is way way more ludicrous/ridiculous.
Having said that, my updated ranking:
Masterpieces!!!:
01 --> 9.5/10 --> 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
02 --> 9.3/10 --> 'From Russia With Love'
03 --> 9.0/10 --> 'Skyfall'
04 --> 8.8/10 --> 'Casino Royale'
05 --> 8.3/10 --> 'Thunderball'
06 --> 8.0/10 --> 'Doctor No'
Good films!:
07 --> 7.7/10 --> 'SPECTRE' (NEW !!)
08 --> 7.4/10 --> 'Octopussy'
09 --> 7.4/10 --> 'For Your Eyes Only'
10 --> 7.3/10 --> 'The Living Daylights'
11 --> 7.1/10 --> 'Goldfinger'
12 --> 7.0/10 --> 'Licence To Kill'
Average films:
13 --> 6.7/10 --> 'The World Is Not Enough'
14 --> 6.5/10 --> 'The Man With The Golden Gun'
15 --> 6.3/10 --> 'Quantum Of Solace'
16 --> 6.1/10 --> 'The Spy Who Loved Me'
17 --> 6.0/10 --> 'Diamonds Are Forever'
18 --> 5.8/10 --> 'Moonraker'
Fun stuff for us Bond fans, but as a standalone film bad and sometimes even stomach-turning!:
19 --> 5.6/10 --> 'Live And Let Die'
20 --> 5.5/10 --> 'Never Say Never Again' (non-EON)
21 --> 4.8/10 --> 'Tomorrow Never Dies'
22 --> 4.5/10 --> 'You Only Live Twice'
23 --> 4.2/10 --> 'GoldenEye'
24 --> 3.4/10 --> 'A View To A Kill'
25 --> 2.8/10 --> 'Die Another Day'
26 --> 1.2/10 --> 'Casino Royale' (non-EON)
Both plans are quite ridiculous. Hence why both "Moonraker" and "The Spy Who Loved Me" are pretty low on my list, though TSWLM has more 'evergreen cult status'. At least Blofeld's plot in "SPECTRE" has a real-life component. "Nine Eyes" really exist. And although the execution of the villain's plot leaves a lot to be desired, it's at least way more realistic than putting an enormous space station out of the blue in outer space....or having this huge Atlantis somewhere at the shore of Italy. As if the United Nations, the USA and the NATO don't give a fuck :-P.
I ranked them by taking into account complex drama, believable, intriguing dialogue and especially complex written characters. For me those are pivotal in every film. But also in a Bond film.
The thing with "Moonraker" and "TSWLM" for me is: Pastiche wins from complexity, the visuals win from complex drama. And obviously that's what Bond is about as well. But at least three of Craig's four Bond films did that much better.
I guess it's also personal taste. For me a Bond girl like Anya Amasova is just beauty and less content. Girls like Tracy, Melina, Vesper, Severine, hell even Madeleine, have way more gravita as characters.
I think it's no style over substance. This is a prime example of substance over style. Or perhaps...both style and a lot of substance:
I know Severine's role is small, but her role for me is way way more interesting and complex than, let's say, Anya Amasova. This scene is also referencing the Vesper-Bond dinner scene in "Casino Royale". Perhaps it's also the excellent acting of some of the films that I didn't see in TSWLM or MR.
I don't personally think SP & TND came even close to achieving that level of perfection, given what they were trying to do, but again that's my opinion. TND in particular is usually ranked quite low in many Bond fan's list, with exceptions of course, & SP is polarizing even now, as the latest Bond film - when one would think it shouldn't be, due to the novelty factor impacting views positively.
So imho, it's all about how it's executed. One cannot really 'copy and paste' (they actually tried that with many elements in TND).
With art, it comes down to more than taking the elements and slapping it together. It's about how everything actually comes together. The end product, if executed properly, will be endearingly greater than the sum of its component parts.
I wish you saw TND how I do!!! :))
TND. I loved it when I was still a brainless kid....But now? Ugghhh.
I agree. An amazing performance...
It's like you look at a beautifully wrapped Christmas gift. But when you open it a pair of old socks look at you.
I don't say SF is not popular, I just find it incredibly overrated. Maybe one of the most overrated movies ever.
Silva would have worked in the Brosnan-era. He is somewhat similar to Gustav Graves or Elliot Carver. OTT and silly dialogue and overacting galore.
In Skyfall it just didn't fit. At least imo. It's all so serious and zero self-irony and then comes this clown...with CGI faces.
I really prefer any other main villain, couldn't think of any that would rank below Silva. Even Blofeld in DAF is more believable, at least it fits the rest of the tone of DAF.
Zorin and Carver great villains too. And Scaramanga.. great villains in search of a better film.
How is that not top quality villain?
Ideally I would have preferred some hand to hand between Bond and him, rather than the knife in the back, but it was worth it just for his expression as he turned around. Classic.
Yeah, and no one seems to mind how Drax got that insane space station up and running. That's not a plot hole. It's a frikkin' 'plot black hole'.