Bond movie ranking (Simple list, no details)

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  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    For me FYEO is as average as they come. It's not bad film but it isn't very good either.

    The good stuff includes its more down-to-earth spy story, the scenes with Cassandra Harris and Topol. I also like the raid on the warehouse. Roger Moore's performance is quite good too.

    His attire is not. They managed to put together some of the least flattering collection of clothes imaginable. Bibi of course is downright irritating and Kristatos is Julian Glover wasted.

    The film can feel a bit lifeless and short on energy. Much in the same way as AVTAK. But in 85 they had an unforgettable couple of villains, a thrilling Barry score and the best piece of action saved for the end.

    As for Conti's score, there exists disco done well and disco done bad. TSWLM is an example of the former and FYEO an example of the latter.

    In the end I always think of FYEO as an admirable attempt but a very flawed at that.

    I just watched it last night. I felt the same way. The whole thing just felt bland to me, with the exception of the scenes with Columbo, the casino scene...well basically everything after Cortina. I know I mentioned my hatred for all of the music in FYEO, but it took it to a whole new level last night. Just horrible.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    For me FYEO is as average as they come. It's not bad film but it isn't very good either.

    The good stuff includes its more down-to-earth spy story, the scenes with Cassandra Harris and Topol. I also like the raid on the warehouse. Roger Moore's performance is quite good too.

    His attire is not. They managed to put together some of the least flattering collection of clothes imaginable. Bibi of course is downright irritating and Kristatos is Julian Glover wasted.

    The film can feel a bit lifeless and short on energy. Much in the same way as AVTAK. But in 85 they had an unforgettable couple of villains, a thrilling Barry score and the best piece of action saved for the end.

    As for Conti's score, there exists disco done well and disco done bad. TSWLM is an example of the former and FYEO an example of the latter.

    In the end I always think of FYEO as an admirable attempt but a very flawed at that.
    I tend to agree with nearly everything you've said. I do like Bouquet as Melina though and think she lifts the film considerably. I much prefer her wounded revenge seeking character to Kurylenko's similar Camille, and think she has pretty good chemistry with Moore. The cinematography is also very good (probably the best of the Glen era).
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I noticed a hardcore age comparison between the two. It really looked like a father-daughter relationship. At least in OP, the relationship between Moore and Adams was believable.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    I noticed a hardcore age comparison between the two. It really looked like a father-daughter relationship. At least in OP, the relationship between Moore and Adams was believable.
    I agree, but I think it sort of worked for this film (due to the revenge focus of Melina, like Camille), although it is quite jarring for those used to Moore's almost naughty antics in prior films. He's very well behaved in this film, with both Melina and Bibi.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I'd completely be ok with it if they didn't make love at the end.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I'd completely be ok with it if they didn't make love at the end.

    Agreed, it felt a bit obligatory. Another similarity with AVTAK.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Yes. I agree, and perhaps they retrospectively realized that, which is why Camille/Bond only were allowed to steal a kiss in QoS.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I'd completely be ok with it if they didn't make love at the end.

    Agreed, it felt a bit obligatory. Another similarity with AVTAK.

    It was just so they can fill Moore's shagging quota.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited June 2016 Posts: 10,591
    QoS moving closer and closer to the top:

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Skyfall
    3. Goldeneye
    4. Goldfinger
    5. Spectre
    6. From Russia With Love
    7. The Spy Who Loved Me
    8. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    9. Quantum of Solace (+1)
    10. The Living Daylights (-1)
    11. Live and Let Die
    12. Dr. No
    13. Thunderball
    14. The World is Not Enough
    15. Moonraker
    16. Octopussy
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. License to Kill
    19. A View to a Kill (+1)
    20. You Only Live Twice (-1)
    21. For Your Eyes Only
    22. Die Another Day
    23. The Man With the Golden Gun
    24. Diamonds are Forever
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 676
    01. The Living Daylights
    02. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    03. From Russia, With Love
    04. Goldfinger
    05. Dr. No
    06. Thunderball
    07. Casino Royale
    08. Licence to Kill
    09. GoldenEye
    10. Skyfall
    11. Moonraker
    12. Octopussy
    13. A View to a Kill
    14. Quantum of Solace
    15. Never Say Never Again
    16. Diamonds Are Forever
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies
    18. The Man with the Golden Gun
    19. Live and Let Die
    20. For Your Eyes Only
    21. You Only Live Twice
    22. Spectre
    23. The Spy Who Loved Me
    24. Die Another Day
    25. The World is Not Enough

    Something like that, anyway.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    1. From Russia With Love
    2. Casino Royale
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. The Living Daylights
    5. Dr No
    6. Goldfinger
    7. Live and Let Die
    8. Skyfall
    9. For Your Eyes Only
    10. Goldeneye
    11. Licence To Kill
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me
    13. Thunderball
    14. Quantum of Solace
    15. The World Is Not Enough
    16. You Only Live Twice
    17. Moonraker
    18. Octopussy
    19. Spectre
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. A View To A Kill
    22. The Man With The Golden Gun
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. Die Another Day
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    1. Goldfinger
    2. Casino royale
    3. On her majestys secret servive
    4. From russia with love
    5. The spy who loved me
    6. Goldeneye
    7. License to kill
    8. The living daylights
    9. Skyfall
    10. Octopussy
    11. You onlyive twice
    12. Spectre
    13. Live and let die
    14. For your eyes only
    15. The worldis not enough
    16. Thunderball
    17. Dr no
    18. Tomorrow never dies
    19. The man with the golden gun
    20. Diamonds are forever
    21. A view to a kill
    22. Quantum of solace
    23. Moonraker
    24. Die another day

    Making this list reminded me of how much i hate ranking the bond films. Yes goldfinger was at the top. But its not the bond film i enjoy the most. I felt like i was undure whether I was making an objective or subjective list throughoyt the process.
  • edited July 2016 Posts: 676
    Birdleson wrote:
    TSWLM at 23? The rest of your list is fairly rational! Even if you are being a bit overly kind to SP.
    The last time I tried watching TSWLM was five years ago, and I just couldn't get through it. The last time I saw it in full was about ten years ago. To me, the Gilbert films feel so big, but still so empty. They fill me with apathy. However, I do have some time for Moonraker - not sure what the difference is with that one... I enjoy the villain and Bond girls, unlike in Gilbert's others.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Updated list. 2 July 2016.

    1. Skyfall
    2. Casino Royale
    3. Thunderball
    4. Goldfinger
    5. Diamonds Are Forever
    6. From Russia With Love
    7. Quantum of Solace
    8. Spectre
    9. Licence to Kill
    10. You Only Live Twice
    11. Live and Let Die*
    12. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    13. The Spy Who Loved Me
    14. Dr. No
    15. The Man with the Golden Gun
    16. A View to a Kill
    17. Goldeneye
    18. The Living Daylights
    19. Octopussy
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. The World Is Not Enough
    22. For Your Eyes Only
    23. Die Another Day
    24. Moonraker

    *For the first time in my rankings, there is no Roger Moore film in my top 10.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Exciting update:

    Top 10

    1. Dr. No (1962)
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
    3. Goldfinger (1964)
    4. Casino Royale (2006)
    5. From Russia With Love (1963)
    6. License To Kill (1989)
    7. Thunderball (1965)
    8. Live And Let Die (1973)
    9. GoldenEye (1995)
    10. Octopussy (1983)

    Bottom 5

    20. Moonraker (1979)
    21. Die Another Day (2002)
    22. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    23. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    24. Skyfall (2012)
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Excellent 1/2 list there!
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Wait, you name yourself Mendes, yet SF is your least favorite Bond film and SP doesn't even crack your Top Ten.

    Remember Mendes you are only a favourite..........for lyfe.

  • MI60071987892016MI60071987892016 Australia
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    My Own Ranking:

    Worst:
    4.Die Another Day
    3.Moonraker
    2.The World Is Not Enough
    1.A View To A Kill

    Bad:
    20.You Only Live Twice
    9.Octopussy
    8.Quantum Of Solace
    7.Diamonds Are Forever
    6.Thunderball

    Good:
    5.The Man With The Golden Gun
    4.Live And Let Die
    3.Tomorrow Never Dies
    2.SPECTRE
    1.License To Kill

    Great:
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9.Dr.No
    8.From Russia With Love
    7.For Your Eyes Only
    6.On Her Majesty's Secret Service

    Best:
    5.GoldFinger
    4.GoldenEye
    3.Skyfall
    2.The Living Daylights
    1.Casino Royale


    Why?:
    20.You Only Live Twice: because its so ridiculous, because of the japanese made me hate this film.
    16.Thunderball: it is a pretty great film, but because of the cartoony tone and that water fight made me hate this.
    15.The Man With The Golden Gun: some say it was the worst but for me, nah, The Man with The Golden Gun is the only bond film that is ridiculous that made me love it because of its cringy moments, also is not boring unlike You Only Live Twice and Thunderball, And of course Christopher Lee's Francisco Scaramanga made me love this film.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    SF at 24? Surely that last letter is a typo?
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    Milovy, you're not alone! I too dont get the love for TSWLM. I think all of Rogers other Bond movies are better. Spy has a boring villain, Bond girl, i hated the Jaws character, and the action is very meh!. Plus it has one of the most boring bomb diffusing scenes, the film grinds to a halt. Was never keen on on the score either! I argued, unsuccessfully on the best pre-credits sequence poll, on the much admired pre-titles scene being quite poor and only gets attention and tops polls because of one brief (albeit magnificent!) stunt scene! Much prefer MR!
  • GBFGBF
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Milovy, you're not alone! I too dont get the love for TSWLM. I think all of Rogers other Bond movies are better. Spy has a boring villain, Bond girl, i hated the Jaws character, and the action is very meh!. Plus it has one of the most boring bomb diffusing scenes, the film grinds to a halt. Was never keen on on the score either! I argued, unsuccessfully on the best pre-credits sequence poll, on the much admired pre-titles scene being quite poor and only gets attention and tops polls because of one brief (albeit magnificent!) stunt scene! Much prefer MR!

    I have also never understood all the admiration for TSWLM. I think it is an average Bond film, but not one of the best and Roger Moore is even my favourite Bond actor. But I never really liked TSWLM as well as Moonraker. Both are to OTT for my taste and I miss any suspense in the films (except for a very few scenes). Some sequences drag, especially the Liparus scene. In my opinion, YOLT which has a very similar plot is superior to both of these films. The same applies to the 1980th Roger Moore films which have a better pacing than Roger's 70s films. But I know that this is certainly controvercial on this forum.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Tragic.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    These terribly hurtful last few comments are difficult to take. Oh well, at least I enjoy the film and nothing will change that.
  • GBFGBF
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    I am happy for everyone who enjoys a particular Bond film, even though it is not one of my favourites. And as I said, I belong to the minority of people who don't find this film so entertaining.... Most people like it very much. But I must admit, I like Jaws in TSWLM.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    GBF wrote: »
    The same applies to the 1980th Roger Moore film.

    He made that many? No wonder he was long in the tooth towards the end.
  • GBFGBF
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    almost :-) Well I don't count them anymore. It was a solid guess I think. As he said he was finally at least 400 years too old for the job but ok even that would not have been enough... to make so many films...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I am just looking forward to seeing those 1973 Moore films I haven t seen yet.
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    1. Diamonds Are Forever
    2. A View to A Kill
    3. Octopussy
    4. Never say Never Again
    5. From Russia with Love
    6. Thunderball
    7. The Living Daylights
    8. Dr. No
    9. Goldfinger
    10. Live and Let Die
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me
    12. For Your Eyes Only
    13. Licence To Kill
    14. On her Majesty's secret Service
    15. The Man With The Golden Gun
    16. You Only Live Twice
    17. Moonraker



    18. Goldeneye
    19. Tomorrow Never Dies
    20. Casino Royale 1967
    21. Casino Royale 2006
    22. The World is Not Enough
    23. Skyfall
    24.Quantum of Solace



    25. Spectre
    26 Die another Day (I almost forgot to put this one)

    Joke ranking list actually- but even fooling around, DAD still gets the last spot.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    What s the joke? CR 67 above the Craig films?

    I wish for a serious ranking, maybe next time?
  • GBFGBF
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    @ToTheRight,

    I really like your unusual ranking, even if it probably not a serious one :-)
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