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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2016 Posts: 23,883
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    7 FRWL
    8 GF
    it seems impossible to decide which one is better, always the one I'm watching I find slightly better than the other! how do you rank them and with what reasoning?
    It's a very easy choice for me. FRWL without a question (my #1 rank). It has a far more focused and deadly performance from Connery, & a more unique premise (and one that is still incredibly down to earth and exclusive for the franchise).

    GF is one of the most iconic films no doubt, due to it being the first with all the OTT gadgetry and many of the franchise tropes. However, I personally believe many things that it did first have since been eclipsed in a combination of Bond films. Moreover, I am not a fan of the 'goofy' Connery that shows up for this particular outing. I much prefer the way he moves, talks, and behaves in the Young & Gilbert outings. He's more purposeful there, and far more deadly. Hamilton was better suited to Moore imho.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    bondjames wrote: »
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    7 FRWL
    8 GF
    it seems impossible to decide which one is better, always the one I'm watching I find slightly better than the other! how do you rank them and with what reasoning?
    It's a very easy choice for me. FRWL without a question (my #1 rank). It has a far more focused and deadly performance from Connery, & a more unique premise (and one that is still incredibly down to earth and exclusive for the franchise).

    GF is one of the most iconic films no doubt, due to it being the first with all the OTT gadgetry and many of the franchise tropes. However, I personally believe many things that it did first have since been eclipsed in a combination of Bond films. Moreover, I am not a fan of the 'goofy' Connery that shows up for this particular outing. I much prefer the way he moves, talks, and behaves in the Young & Gilbert outings. He's more purposeful there, and far more deadly. Hamilton was better suited to Moore imho.

    I don't know what it is with GF though @BondJames....

    For me Terence Young iconized the more deadly assassin part of Bond. He focused on the more realistic part of the role combined with a more sinister scare of the villains.

    Guy Hamilton however iconized the more funny, laissez-faire, cheesy parts of the Bond character. Including the introduction of gadgets and slightly more flat-written characters, like 'grumpy Q'.

    Hence we I personally like FRWL way more, and GF is always at 11th or 12th place in my TOP 10.

    What I also love about FRWL -and something that John Glen slightly copied for his film TLD- is the fact that the villains are shadowing Bond. Bond doesn't know a thing about the sinister SPECTRE-scheme and Blofeld, yet the viewers know exactly what's going on. It's fun! And it's the aspect that makes FRWL way more a thriller.

    I would love that aspect to be back in Bond #25 to be honest. Hasn't been done in a long long time.
  • BounineBounine
    Posts: 2,599
    Here is my ranking from worst to best. I haven't watched any of the Bond films aside for Spectre and Die Another Day in the past 3 and a half to four years. I am about to watch them all again. Maybe my ranking will change upon completion of my viewings:

    Die Another Day

    Tomorrow Never Dies

    TWINE

    Quantum Of Solace

    Goldeneye

    Spectre

    Diamonds Are Forever

    Octopussy

    A View To A Kill

    You Only Live Twice

    The Spy Who Loved Me

    Goldfinger

    Thunderball

    The Man With The Golden Gun

    Live and Let Die

    Moonraker

    Skyfall

    License to kill

    For Your Eyes Only

    Dr No

    Casino Royale

    From Russia With Love

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service / The Living Daylights (can't decide which is better)
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    At the request of @w2bond, here is my ranking;

    1. TND
    2. TWINE
    3. DAD
    4. CR
    5. GE
    6. MR
    7. TSWLM
    8. GF
    9. SP
    10. TLD
    11. SF
    12. OP
    13. NSNA
    14. LALD
    15. TMWTGG
    16. FRWL
    17. YOLT
    18. FYEO
    19. OHMSS
    20. DN
    21. DAF
    22. TB
    23. LTK
    24. QOS
    25. AVTAK
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @BMW_with_missiles

    That's the bloody best Top 10 I've ever seen. Better than mine :P
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    At the request of @w2bond, here is my ranking;

    1. TND
    2. TWINE
    3. DAD
    4. CR
    5. GE
    6. MR
    7. TSWLM
    8. GF
    9. SP
    10. TLD
    11. SF
    12. OP
    13. NSNA
    14. LALD
    15. TMWTGG
    16. FRWL
    17. YOLT
    18. FYEO
    19. OHMSS
    20. DN
    21. DAF
    22. TB
    23. LTK
    24. QOS
    25. AVTAK

    Which way up is that list..?!!!! :-S
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited September 2016 Posts: 7,134
    New list after some recent rewatches (GF, TB, OHMSS, LALD, MR, LTK).

    @Gustav_Graves, so can I update my top 10 in your poll too or is that going to be too confusing?

    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service +1
    2. Licence to Kill +1
    3. Thunderball +12
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. GoldenEye

    6. Goldfinger -5
    7. Casino Royale -1
    8. The Living Daylights -1
    9. The Man with the Golden Gun -1
    10. Tomorrow Never Dies

    11. Skyfall
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me
    13. Dr. No
    14. You Only Live Twice -5
    15. The World Is Not Enough +1

    16. Moonraker -1
    17. Octopussy +2
    18. Spectre
    19. Live and Let Die -2
    20. A View to a Kill

    21. Quantum of Solace
    22. For Your Eyes Only
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. Die Another Day



  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 3,000
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    @BMW_with_missiles

    That's the bloody best Top 10 I've ever seen. Better than mine :P

    Thanks!
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    At the request of @w2bond, here is my ranking;

    1. TND
    2. TWINE
    3. DAD
    4. CR
    5. GE
    6. MR
    7. TSWLM
    8. GF
    9. SP
    10. TLD
    11. SF
    12. OP
    13. NSNA
    14. LALD
    15. TMWTGG
    16. FRWL
    17. YOLT
    18. FYEO
    19. OHMSS
    20. DN
    21. DAF
    22. TB
    23. LTK
    24. QOS
    25. AVTAK

    Which way up is that list..?!!!! :-S

    Just keeping the Irish? end up, sir.
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    edited September 2016 Posts: 3,336
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    New list after some recent rewatches (GF, TB, OHMSS, LALD, MR, LTK).

    @Gustav_Graves, so can I update my top 10 in your poll too or is that going to be too confusing?

    1. Licence to Kill +2
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Thunderball +12
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. GoldenEye

    6. Goldfinger -5
    7. Casino Royale -1
    8. The Living Daylights -1
    9. The Man with the Golden Gun -1
    10. Tomorrow Never Dies

    11. Skyfall
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me
    13. Dr. No
    14. You Only Live Twice -5
    15. The World Is Not Enough +1

    16. Moonraker -1
    17. Octopussy +2
    18. Spectre
    19. Live and Let Die -2
    20. A View to a Kill

    21. Quantum of Solace
    22. For Your Eyes Only
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. Die Another Day



    TB up 12 slots? Damn!

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Crazysoul95 wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    New list after some recent rewatches (GF, TB, OHMSS, LALD, MR, LTK).

    @Gustav_Graves, so can I update my top 10 in your poll too or is that going to be too confusing?

    1. Licence to Kill +2
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Thunderball +12
    4. From Russia with Love
    5. GoldenEye

    6. Goldfinger -5
    7. Casino Royale -1
    8. The Living Daylights -1
    9. The Man with the Golden Gun -1
    10. Tomorrow Never Dies

    11. Skyfall
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me
    13. Dr. No
    14. You Only Live Twice -5
    15. The World Is Not Enough +1

    16. Moonraker -1
    17. Octopussy +2
    18. Spectre
    19. Live and Let Die -2
    20. A View to a Kill

    21. Quantum of Solace
    22. For Your Eyes Only
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. Die Another Day



    TB up 12 slots? Damn!
    It's good to see a positive reassessment of a classic. I have it positioned at exactly the same spot.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    After rewatching it I realized it adds a few elements I missed in GF.

    - femme fatale
    - exotic locations (Bahamas vs. Kentucky)
    - Bond is a lot more active too

    Really enjoyed it.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Having watched TB only a few days ago I found it quite enjoyable, but still boring in many places.

    TB, YOLT and SF are the only Bond movies I find boring in certain sequences. That's enough I'm afraid to put them pretty low in my ranking.

    Still TB could go up in my ranking again I guess. At the moment the negative outweighs the positive for me but it could change.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Where are TB ,YOLT and GF in your list @BondJasonBond006 ?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Where are TB ,YOLT and GF in your list @BondJasonBond006 ?

    I guess you meant SF, not GF. GF is simply perfect and has not one boring second.


    Jason's final Bond film ranking 2016: The Top 10 is pretty much set in stone now for some time to come.

    1 SP
    2 GE
    3 TLD
    4 OHMSS
    5 CR
    6 OP
    7 FRWL
    8 GF
    9 QOS
    10 TND

    I changed 11 to 18 for one last time. DN went up considerably. I have difficulty putting these 8 films into an order.
    11 LTK
    12 DN
    13 TSWLM
    14 FYEO
    15 LALD
    16 DAF
    17 DAD
    18 MR

    19 TB
    20 YOLT
    21 AVTAK
    22 TMWTGG
    23 TWINE
    24 SF
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    No i did mean GF...just see it up against TB and YOLT....ok,thanks for that.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    Having watched TB only a few days ago I found it quite enjoyable, but still boring in many places.

    TB, YOLT and SF are the only Bond movies I find boring in certain sequences. That's enough I'm afraid to put them pretty low in my ranking.

    Still TB could go up in my ranking again I guess. At the moment the negative outweighs the positive for me but it could change.

    The word 'nuance' isn't practiced a lot in your arguments no :-P ;-)?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited September 2016 Posts: 9,020
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    Having watched TB only a few days ago I found it quite enjoyable, but still boring in many places.

    TB, YOLT and SF are the only Bond movies I find boring in certain sequences. That's enough I'm afraid to put them pretty low in my ranking.

    Still TB could go up in my ranking again I guess. At the moment the negative outweighs the positive for me but it could change.

    The word 'nuance' isn't practiced a lot in your arguments no :-P ;-)?

    Did you see an argument in that post? It's a simple statement of the fact I find some films rather boring.

    I can do "nuance", it has happened rumour has it. It can't be longer than 853 posts ago.
  • timmertimmer
    Posts: 4,622
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    The only reason I have TMWTGG at No 22 in my ranking is because there are, I'm afraid to say, 21 other Bond movies that are a tiny little bit better than the film in question.

    Even Skyfall which I have at No 24 will get a healthy 6.5 to 7.0 out of 10 in my book.

    If it were mathematically possible I'd place 15 Bond movie into the Top 10 and the other 9 on 11-15.
    This is fair. That's how my ranking work too. Bottom doesn't mean hated. It just means 24th.
    The Rolling Stones have 24 official North American-release studio albums.
    I love all 24 albums, but I could rank them and something would be at the bottom, but that's really no slight
  • BounineBounine
    Posts: 2,599
    You know, I just wanted to comment on my ranking of For Your Eyes Only. If it wasn't for the second half of the movie, which adopts a grittier, darker approach with wonderful elements from the Fleming books (I also adore the rock climbing scene which isn't from the books) then it certainly wouldn't rank as high on my list.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Bounine wrote: »
    You know, I just wanted to comment on my ranking of For Your Eyes Only. If it wasn't for the second half of the movie, which adopts a grittier, darker approach with wonderful elements from the Fleming books (I also adore the rock climbing scene which isn't from the books) then it certainly wouldn't rank as high on my list.
    That's an interesting list @Bounine. I notice that you like the more down to earth and grittier Bond films.

    I'm surprised by what seem to be exceptions in your list however. Namely, MR at 9 (quite outlandish), GE at 20 (reasonably gritty, especially given what was to come later in the 90s) & QoS at 21 (I suppose the editing and shaky cam were to blame?).
  • BounineBounine
    edited September 2016 Posts: 2,599
    bondjames wrote: »
    Bounine wrote: »
    You know, I just wanted to comment on my ranking of For Your Eyes Only. If it wasn't for the second half of the movie, which adopts a grittier, darker approach with wonderful elements from the Fleming books (I also adore the rock climbing scene which isn't from the books) then it certainly wouldn't rank as high on my list.
    That's an interesting list @Bounine. I notice that you like the more down to earth and grittier Bond films.

    I'm surprised by what seem to be exceptions in your list however. Namely, MR at 9 (quite outlandish), GE at 20 (reasonably gritty, especially given what was to come later in the 90s) & QoS at 21 (I suppose the editing and shaky cam were to blame?).

    In terms of QOS, it had too much action. I love action but too much in any film is overkill for me. It's pretty much just one action scene after the other. Yes, they went a bit too far with the shaky cam work too. They certainly wasted the dog fight with this shooting style.

    I'm not a fan of any of the Brosnan films but GE is the best of the four. I really don't like Brosnan's Bond but he's not bad in GE. Following this film he got progressively worse. The movie also had too much action for my taste. One thing that's good about Spectre is that it doesn't have too much action like SF and CR. A decent balance is there.

    I am a fan of all of the Moore Bond films but for different reasons. Moore is wonderful with the comedy and Moonraker is a big, bold, fun adventure with colourful, imaginative sets that are reminiscent of the books and the Connery movies. I just treat Moonraker as almost a slapstick comedy film. There's also some wonderful, suspenseful scenes like when Bond goes to the lab in Venice. Also, I love Barry's score.

    Another part of the reason I can't get into the Brosnan films and Spectre, to a lesser extent, is that they are too multifaceted, where they attempt to mix comedy/playfulness with grittiness and for me it just doesn't work. I like more consistency. Moore's films pretty much revolve around comedy except for most of the second half of FYEO which was well executed and a radical departure from the first half of the film. It's almost like a different movie except for the ending when the parrot is talking to Margaret Thatcher. :)
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited September 2016 Posts: 16,169
    New ranking putting VIEW up a notch. That was the plan.....then I pretty much started re arranging the whole thing.

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. DR NO
    3. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    4. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. THUNDERBALL
    6. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    7. CASINO ROYALE
    8. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    9. OCTOPUSSY
    10. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    11.LICENCE TO KILL
    12. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    13. LIVE AND LET DIE
    14. A VIEW TO A KILL
    15. SKYFALL
    16. GOLDENEYE
    17. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    18. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    19. SPECTRE
    20. MOONRAKER
    21. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    22. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    23. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    24. CASINO ROYALE '54
    25. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    26. DIE ANOTHER DAY
    27. CASINO ROYALE '67
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2016 Posts: 8,399
    Not done a ranking in a while, so here's an update:

    1. Dr No (1962)
    2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
    3. From Russia With Love (1963)
    4. Goldfinger (1964)
    5. Casino Royale (2006)
    6. Goldeneye (1995)
    7. Thunderball (1965)
    8. License To Kill (1989)
    9. Live And Let Die (1973)
    10. Octopussy (1983)
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    12. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    13. SPECTRE (2015)
    14. The Living Daylights (1987)
    15. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    16. Skyfall (2012)
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    18. The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
    19. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    20. A View To A Kill (1985)
    21. Die Another Day (2002)
    22. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    23. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    24. Moonraker (1979)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I love your top five.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,399
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    I love your top five.

    Thank you.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    My final ranking for 2016 stands but I tried to do something different nonetheless.


    Ranking Sean Connery:
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    GOLDFINGER     both set in stone for Top 2, but order changes every now and then

    DR. NO set in stone at No 3 spot

    DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER since this year definitely set in stone for No 4

    NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    THUNDERBALL
    YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE     tricky, can change order anytime


    Ranking George Lazenby:
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE unsurprisingly set in stone


    Ranking Roger Moore:
    OCTOPUSSY set in stone for all eternity at the top

    FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    LIVE AND LET DIE
    MOONRAKER     the most difficult to rank in the whole series, can be turned upside down even

    A VIEW TO A KILL
    THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN     set in stone for 6th and 7th place


    Ranking Timothy Dalton:
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    LICENCE TO KILL     both set in stone


    Ranking Pierce Brosnan:
    GOLDENEYE
    TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    DIE ANOTHER DAY
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH     all 4 set in stone


    Ranking Daniel Craig:
    SPECTRE this could change and drop below CR
    CASINO ROYALE will always reign over QOS and SF, always
    QUANTUM OF SOLACE spot 3 is guaranteed
    SKYFALL not only will this stay at the bottom of Craig's films but of the whole series
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,169
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    My final ranking for 2016 stands but I tried to do something different nonetheless.


    Ranking Sean Connery:
    FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    GOLDFINGER     both set in stone for Top 2, but order changes every now and then

    DR. NO set in stone at No 3 spot

    DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER since this year definitely set in stone for No 4

    NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    THUNDERBALL
    YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE     tricky, can change order anytime


    Ranking George Lazenby:
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE unsurprisingly set in stone


    Ranking Roger Moore:
    OCTOPUSSY set in stone for all eternity at the top

    FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    LIVE AND LET DIE
    MOONRAKER     the most difficult to rank in the whole series, can be turned upside down even

    A VIEW TO A KILL
    THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN     set in stone for 6th and 7th place


    Ranking Timothy Dalton:
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    LICENCE TO KILL     both set in stone


    Ranking Pierce Brosnan:
    GOLDENEYE
    TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    DIE ANOTHER DAY
    THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH     all 4 set in stone


    Ranking Daniel Craig:
    SPECTRE this could change and drop below CR
    CASINO ROYALE will always reign over QOS and SF, always
    QUANTUM OF SOLACE spot 3 is guaranteed
    SKYFALL not only will this stay at the bottom of Craig's films but of the whole series

    I like that style. I may have to try something similar.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Hmmm i might do that in a bit,once i have finished watching TWINE..
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    TMWTGG below MR and AVTAK is just wrong.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,801
    QOS & SP keep doing battle in my brain for the #1 Craig spot on my list... @-)
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