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  • barryt007barryt007
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Six of those are on my Top Ten.
    Just out of interest @Birdleson ,which 6 and in what order ?

  • barryt007barryt007
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    Impressive..please tell me#1 isnt GF ?!
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    GBF wrote: »
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    AVTAK felt like the first film where the filmmakers weren't pushing themselves to make the best movie they could. It was just the box office this time around.

    I have heard this complaint very often. But do you for instance think that DAF, TMWTGG or MR were films which the film makers tried to make as good as possible?

    I will give you TMWTGG, but DAF and MR are both films where every dollar shows on screen. They had an idea and did their best to develop upon it. They have their share of bad moments, but that is from poor decisions, not a lack of effort. For example, you can't look at the MR PTS and say they weren't trying to do something unique and thrilling.

    AVTAK was the first film where I felt that in every vein they were barely trying anymore. The second half of the plot is rehashed from GF and is a non sequitur following from the first half, the editing is noticeably bad in some places, they were not trying at all to hide the stunt doubles, the fights are decidedly so-so, the PTS is a rerun of the much better TSWLM PTS and the performances are average overall. They were sort of exhausted and just did whatever they wanted, knowing it would sell because it was Moore's last film.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    It certainly is.
    Knew it...bloody hell.

  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    GBF wrote: »
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    AVTAK felt like the first film where the filmmakers weren't pushing themselves to make the best movie they could. It was just the box office this time around.

    I have heard this complaint very often. But do you for instance think that DAF, TMWTGG or MR were films which the film makers tried to make as good as possible?

    I will give you TMWTGG, but DAF and MR are both films where every dollar shows on screen. They had an idea and did their best to develop upon it. They have their share of bad moments, but that is from poor decisions, not a lack of effort. For example, you can't look at the MR PTS and say they weren't trying to do something unique and thrilling.

    AVTAK was the first film where I felt that in every vein they were barely trying anymore. The second half of the plot is rehashed from GF and is a non sequitur following from the first half, the editing is noticeably bad in some places, they were not trying at all to hide the stunt doubles, the fights are decidedly so-so, the PTS is a rerun of the much better TSWLM PTS and the performances are average overall. They were sort of exhausted and just did whatever they wanted, knowing it would sell because it was Moore's last film.

    Typo??? DAF??? There is not one moment that shouts expensive, except for Connery's paycheck. There's less effort in the exploding helicopters and exploding nuclear bases than the cgi surfing scene
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
    Posts: 1,817
    w2bond wrote: »
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    GBF wrote: »
    IncompetentHenchman wrote: »
    AVTAK felt like the first film where the filmmakers weren't pushing themselves to make the best movie they could. It was just the box office this time around.

    I have heard this complaint very often. But do you for instance think that DAF, TMWTGG or MR were films which the film makers tried to make as good as possible?

    I will give you TMWTGG, but DAF and MR are both films where every dollar shows on screen. They had an idea and did their best to develop upon it. They have their share of bad moments, but that is from poor decisions, not a lack of effort. For example, you can't look at the MR PTS and say they weren't trying to do something unique and thrilling.

    AVTAK was the first film where I felt that in every vein they were barely trying anymore. The second half of the plot is rehashed from GF and is a non sequitur following from the first half, the editing is noticeably bad in some places, they were not trying at all to hide the stunt doubles, the fights are decidedly so-so, the PTS is a rerun of the much better TSWLM PTS and the performances are average overall. They were sort of exhausted and just did whatever they wanted, knowing it would sell because it was Moore's last film.

    Typo??? DAF??? There is not one moment that shouts expensive, except for Connery's paycheck. There's less effort in the exploding helicopters and exploding nuclear bases than the cgi surfing scene

    OK, it's been a while since I've put DAF on, but I feel like this problem crops up more towards the end than anything.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    My new top 7:

    1.OHMSS
    2.FRWL
    3.CR
    4.QOS
    5.TB
    6.OP
    7.TSWLM

    I see you have a new appreciation for QoS, @barryt007...

    Good stuff!
  • barryt007barryt007
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    OK time for an updated list ,as a lot has changed :

    1. OHMSS
    2. FRWL
    3. CR
    4. QOS
    5. TB
    6. OP
    7. SF
    8. LTK
    9. TSWLM
    10. GE
    11. TWINE
    12. TND
    13. SP
    14. DN
    15. GF
    16. AVTAK
    17. LALD
    18. YOLT
    19. FYEO
    20. DAD
    21. TMWTGG
    22. DAF
    23. MR
    24. TLD

    As of today..all can fluctuate ,especially between the top 3 ,who change often,but wont be caught by anyone else.
    TLD,i don't think will ever move from the bottom spot for me,and the biggest mover has been QOS ,which has jumped from,i think 16th spot to 4th.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    My current ranking (not yet complete, my Bondathon is still ongoing):

    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Licence To Kill
    3. For Your Eyes Only
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies
    5. Octopussy
    6. The World Is Not Enough
    7. Spectre
    8. GoldenEye
    9. Die Another Day
    10. Casino Royale
    11. A View To A Kill
    12. Skyfall
    13. Moonraker
    14. Quantum Of Solace

  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
    2. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    3. Licence to Kill (1989)
    4. GoldenEye (1995)
    5. Casino Royale (2006)
    6. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    7. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    8. A View to a Kill (1985)
    9. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    10. Thunderball (1965)
    11. Dr. No (1962)
    12. Skyfall (2012)
    13. The Living Daylights (1987)
    14. Live and Let Die (1973)
    15. From Russia With Love (1963)
    16. Goldfinger (1964)
    17. Octopussy (1983)
    18. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    19. Die Another Day (2002)
    20. Spectre (2015)
    21. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    22. Moonraker (1979)
    23. The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
    24. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)

    First time posting my full ranking. Parts shuffle fairly regularly, but my Top 3 hasn't changed for a long time, and my Top 10 and Bottom 6 never mix with the others. Recently, apart from a few slight shifts here and there, the biggest changes have been Octopussy dropping significantly and Skyfall climbing significantly. They pretty much just switched places in fact. Skyfall really does have the best cinematography of the series and some very engrossing and well-directed scenes like the enquiry. I've learned to overlook the gaping plot holes as I do with some of my favorite Bonds like GoldenEye. I'm hoping my appreciation for Spectre will similarly rise over time, but I just can't see it happening at the moment.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Interesting to see,in the last 3 posts (including me) the sudden love for DAD,TWINE and QOS ...I remember the days when DAD was always everyones bottom film...looks like a bit of appreciation is creeping in.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    1. Dr No (1962)
    2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (1969)
    3. Goldeneye (1995)
    4. From Russia With Love (1963)
    5. Goldfinger (1964)
    6. The Living Daylights (1987)
    7. Casino Royale (2006)
    8. Thunderball (1965)
    9. Live And Let Die (1973)
    10. Octopussy (1983)
    11. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    13. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    14. The World Is Not Enough (1999)
    15. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    16. SPECTRE (2015)
    17. The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
    18. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    19. A View To A Kill (1985)
    20. Skyfall (2012)
    21. License To Kill (1989)
    22. Die Another Day (2002)
    23. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    24. Moonraker (1979)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Interesting to see,in the last 3 posts (including me) the sudden love for DAD,TWINE and QOS ...I remember the days when DAD was always everyones bottom film...looks like a bit of appreciation is creeping in.

    Its cemented at the bottom of my list. A lazy, camp and pastiche entry.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Interesting to see,in the last 3 posts (including me) the sudden love for DAD,TWINE and QOS ...I remember the days when DAD was always everyones bottom film...looks like a bit of appreciation is creeping in.

    I probably haven't voiced my opinions too loudly, but I've held TWINE and QOS in high esteem for quite some time. There does, however, seem to be a steadily growing reappraisal of some of the more modern Bond films that haven't been looked upon too kindly in the past. I'd put Licence to Kill and Tomorrow Never Dies in that same category.

    With DAD, for me, it's more of a love/hate thing. As with Moonraker, there is much DAD does right and much it does wrong in my opinion. A solid movie, with superb moments even, unfortunately derailed in the second half by cartoonish and/or overly juvenile creative decisions. Don't get me wrong, they're both films I'm able to enjoy quite a lot in the right mood and the right mindset, but when it comes to finding their places in the overall ranking of the series, it simply comes down to weighing the good and the bad and seeing how far the scale tips.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    barryt007 wrote: »
    OK time for an updated list ,as a lot has changed :

    1. OHMSS
    2. FRWL
    3. CR
    4. QOS
    5. TB
    6. OP
    7. SF
    8. LTK
    9. TSWLM
    10. GE
    11. TWINE
    12. TND
    13. SP
    14. DN
    15. GF
    16. AVTAK
    17. LALD
    18. YOLT
    19. FYEO
    20. DAD
    21. TMWTGG
    22. DAF
    23. MR
    24. TLD

    As of today..all can fluctuate ,especially between the top 3 ,who change often,but wont be caught by anyone else.
    TLD,i don't think will ever move from the bottom spot for me,and the biggest mover has been QOS ,which has jumped from,i think 16th spot to 4th.

    Ok I admit that, having watched TLD again recently, it does drag a bit. But AT THE VERY BOTTOM??
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    suavejmf wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Interesting to see,in the last 3 posts (including me) the sudden love for DAD,TWINE and QOS ...I remember the days when DAD was always everyones bottom film...looks like a bit of appreciation is creeping in.

    Its cemented at the bottom of my list. A lazy, camp and pastiche entry.


    Above all its badly made. Other pastiche entries like MR are at least well made.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    TLD at the bottom? Savage but okay with me. ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,399
    It doesn't seem right to put TLD last. What about Moonraker!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Moonraker is fun and charming. It maybe cheesy and over the top but it sure delivers. Not to mention Roger gives a cracking fine performance.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    DAD belongs at the bottom. If it s growing on you, you need to filtrate your water.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,399
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    DAD belongs at the bottom. If it s growing on you, you need to filtrate your water.

    What about Moonraker?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    DAD belongs at the bottom. If it s growing on you, you need to filtrate your water.

    It's at the bottom for me.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    DAD belongs at the bottom. If it s growing on you, you need to filtrate your water.

    What about Moonraker?

    It s bad, but at least it has some qualities.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    MR is daft but I'm inclined to watch it more often than TLD.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Agreed. Moonraker gets better for me each viewing. It's so much fun to watch and always leaves me grinning.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    OK time for an updated list ,as a lot has changed :

    1. OHMSS
    2. FRWL
    3. CR
    4. QOS
    5. TB
    6. OP
    7. SF
    8. LTK
    9. TSWLM
    10. GE
    11. TWINE
    12. TND
    13. SP
    14. DN
    15. GF
    16. AVTAK
    17. LALD
    18. YOLT
    19. FYEO
    20. DAD
    21. TMWTGG
    22. DAF
    23. MR
    24. TLD

    As of today..all can fluctuate ,especially between the top 3 ,who change often,but wont be caught by anyone else.
    TLD,i don't think will ever move from the bottom spot for me,and the biggest mover has been QOS ,which has jumped from,i think 16th spot to 4th.

    Ok I admit that, having watched TLD again recently, it does drag a bit. But AT THE VERY BOTTOM??

    Most members who know me on here will tell you the main reason why its rock bottom ;)



  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    @barryt007 is it to do with Dalton?
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    @barryt007 is it to do with Dalton?

    Nope....

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,399
    Hmm, the Villians, @barryt007 ?
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Hmm, the Villians, @barryt007 ?

    Nope...do you want me to tell you or you fancy another guess matey ?

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