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  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited December 2016 Posts: 2,252
    With three films to go this year, here is my ranking thus far:

    1. The Living Daylights (0) - always been top tier
    2. Goldeneye (+4) - not perfect but nostalgia and Campbell are enough to keep this high
    3. From Russia with Love (+1)
    4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (+1)
    5. Casino Royale (-2)
    6. Dr No (+4) - gets better each time.
    7. Octopussy (-5) - lowest ranking in a while. Visually very bland

    8. Goldfinger (+8) - Biggest rise ever, I've never previously been a fan
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies (0) - Brosnan moves well, so shoot me, Connery fanboys
    10. Moonraker (+1) - Clone of TSWLM. Much better in some ways, much worse in others
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me (-3) - Score's not bad, but lack of Barry hurts
    12. Diamonds Are Forever (0) - Guilty pleasure for sure. Hilarious.
    13. Licence to Kill (0) - Slowly slipping. I don't enjoy it less, just not as a Bond film.

    14. The Man With The Golden Gun (+5) - Far from a good film but I enjoyed it this time
    15. A View To A Kill (0) - Keeps falling but it's plateaued. Very tired effort
    16. Skyfall (+6) - Mainly this high due to Deakins, and this low due to Newman

    17. Die Another Day (+3) - Shit, but watchable.
    18. Spectre (-1) - Could have been...

    19. Thunderball (-1) - Pains me to put it here, the most genuinely great script. Love "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" theme too
    20. Quantum of Solace (+2) - Only positive is the score. The skyfall sequence isn't any better than the windsurfing (at least it's shorter)
    21. The World is Not Enough (0) - Thames chase is the only good bit

    I expect FYEO to sit around GF, YOLT and LALD near AVTAK
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    w2bond wrote: »
    With three films to go this year, here is my ranking thus far:

    1. The Living Daylights (0) - always been top tier
    2. Goldeneye (+4) - not perfect but nostalgia and Campbell are enough to keep this high
    3. From Russia with Love (+1)
    4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (+1)
    5. Casino Royale (-2)
    6. Dr No (+4) - gets better each time.
    7. Octopussy (-5) - lowest ranking in a while. Visually very bland

    8. Goldfinger (+8) - Biggest rise ever, I've never previously been a fan
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies (0) - Brosnan moves well, so shoot me, Connery fanboys
    10. Moonraker (+1) - Clone of TSWLM. Much better in some ways, much worse in others
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me (-3) - Score's not bad, but lack of Barry hurts
    12. Diamonds Are Forever (0) - Guilty pleasure for sure. Hilarious.
    13. Licence to Kill (0) - Slowly slipping. I don't enjoy it less, just not as a Bond film.

    14. The Man With The Golden Gun (+5) - Far from a good film but I enjoyed it this time
    15. A View To A Kill (0) - Keeps falling but it's plateaued. Very tired effort
    16. Skyfall (+6) - Mainly this high due to Deakins, and this low due to Newman

    17. Die Another Day (+3) - Shit, but watchable.
    18. Spectre (-1) - Could have been...

    19. Thunderball (-1) - Pains me to put it here, the most genuinely great script. Love "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" theme too
    20. Quantum of Solace (+2) - Only positive is the score. The skyfall sequence isn't any better than the windsurfing (at least it's shorter)
    21. The World is Not Enough (0) - Thames chase is the only good bit

    I expect FYEO to sit around GF, YOLT and LALD near AVTAK

    Just realized we have the exact same top 12 (albeit in a different order) except I have LALD instead of Moonraker.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    With three films to go this year, here is my ranking thus far:

    1. The Living Daylights (0) - always been top tier
    2. Goldeneye (+4) - not perfect but nostalgia and Campbell are enough to keep this high
    3. From Russia with Love (+1)
    4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (+1)
    5. Casino Royale (-2)
    6. Dr No (+4) - gets better each time.
    7. Octopussy (-5) - lowest ranking in a while. Visually very bland

    8. Goldfinger (+8) - Biggest rise ever, I've never previously been a fan
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies (0) - Brosnan moves well, so shoot me, Connery fanboys
    10. Moonraker (+1) - Clone of TSWLM. Much better in some ways, much worse in others
    11. The Spy Who Loved Me (-3) - Score's not bad, but lack of Barry hurts
    12. Diamonds Are Forever (0) - Guilty pleasure for sure. Hilarious.
    13. Licence to Kill (0) - Slowly slipping. I don't enjoy it less, just not as a Bond film.

    14. The Man With The Golden Gun (+5) - Far from a good film but I enjoyed it this time
    15. A View To A Kill (0) - Keeps falling but it's plateaued. Very tired effort
    16. Skyfall (+6) - Mainly this high due to Deakins, and this low due to Newman

    17. Die Another Day (+3) - Shit, but watchable.
    18. Spectre (-1) - Could have been...

    19. Thunderball (-1) - Pains me to put it here, the most genuinely great script. Love "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" theme too
    20. Quantum of Solace (+2) - Only positive is the score. The skyfall sequence isn't any better than the windsurfing (at least it's shorter)
    21. The World is Not Enough (0) - Thames chase is the only good bit

    I expect FYEO to sit around GF, YOLT and LALD near AVTAK

    Just realized we have the exact same top 12 (albeit in a different order) except I have LALD instead of Moonraker.

    @Mendes4Lyfe A reasonably similar list yes :) I see you have Moonraker at the bottom. Sure it has well documented flaws, but I like the skydiving sequence, grand score and epic scale of it. Great dialogue and quips too.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    w2bond wrote: »
    20. Quantum of Solace (+2) - Only positive is the score. The skyfall sequence isn't any better than the windsurfing (at least it's shorter)

    To be fair, Craig is the "Terminator" Bond and suffers superhuman abuse in all four of his films...

    CR: Returning to poker after suffering poisoning/cardiac arrest.
    QoS: Falling hundreds of feet out of an airplane and smashing into rocks at full speed with nary a bruise.
    SF: Being shot off the top of a speeding train and falling hundreds of feet before smashing into a river.
    SP: Being drilled inside his brain before waltzing through and picking off Blofeld's entire base with computerized "auto-aim" accuracy (*cue Brad Fiedel*)
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    20. Quantum of Solace (+2) - Only positive is the score. The skyfall sequence isn't any better than the windsurfing (at least it's shorter)

    To be fair, Craig is the "Terminator" Bond and suffers superhuman abuse in all four of his films...

    CR: Returning to poker after suffering poisoning/cardiac arrest.
    QoS: Falling hundreds of feet out of an airplane and smashing into rocks at full speed with nary a bruise.
    SF: Being shot off the top of a speeding train and falling hundreds of feet before smashing into a river.
    SP: Being drilled inside his brain before waltzing through and picking off Blofeld's entire base with computerized "auto-aim" accuracy (*cue Brad Fiedel*)

    I can tolerate superhuman. It's the atrocious CGI that is unforgivable

  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    w2bond wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    20. Quantum of Solace (+2) - Only positive is the score. The skyfall sequence isn't any better than the windsurfing (at least it's shorter)

    To be fair, Craig is the "Terminator" Bond and suffers superhuman abuse in all four of his films...

    CR: Returning to poker after suffering poisoning/cardiac arrest.
    QoS: Falling hundreds of feet out of an airplane and smashing into rocks at full speed with nary a bruise.
    SF: Being shot off the top of a speeding train and falling hundreds of feet before smashing into a river.
    SP: Being drilled inside his brain before waltzing through and picking off Blofeld's entire base with computerized "auto-aim" accuracy (*cue Brad Fiedel*)

    I can tolerate superhuman. It's the atrocious CGI that is unforgivable

    That too. I agree. This trend toward blurry-edged green screen effects is just as bothersome to me as the wonky rear projection effects of decades past. The PTS's of DAD, SF, and SP and the free-falling scene in QoS are all rather egregious examples of bad green screen. Somehow Casino Royale managed to make do without!
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Hopefully with the infamous bloated budget of SP they might scale back on the next one and be more creative in how they plan things
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    A return to real stuntwork would be amazingly refreshing.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2016 Posts: 10,591
    I can't seem to remember a point where that was lacking.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    jake24 wrote: »
    I can't seem to remember a point where that was lacking.

    The last time I recall being impressed by real stuntwork in the series was the parkour chase at the beginning of CR (and flipping the Aston several times). So yes, I think it's been lacking. SP had the helicopter flipping in mid-air, which was okay, but hardly original as the whole sequence was lifted from FYEO and quickly resorted to embarrassing green screen anyway. To quote Angelo Palazzi: "Not enough. The helicopter flip is not enough."
  • M16_CartM16_Cart Craig fanboy?
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I appreciate the good intentions of FYEO, but I feel the whole thing is quite unexceptional.


    being forgettable is worse than being bad. i originally had it in the upper half of my rankings but then it sunk down. compared to moonraker, and other moore movies, it is a serious spy film. but compared to the film industry at large, if it weren't part of bond canon, it would be one of the many spy films that never see the light of day.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    M16_Cart wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I appreciate the good intentions of FYEO, but I feel the whole thing is quite unexceptional.


    being forgettable is worse than being bad. i originally had it in the upper half of my rankings but then it sunk down. compared to moonraker, and other moore movies, it is a serious spy film. but compared to the film industry at large, if it weren't part of bond canon, it would be one of the many spy films that never see the light of day.

    Well, you can use that statement for every Bond film. You can also say that Casino Royale or Skyfall are forgettable.

    Seriously, FYEO has so many very memorable scenes: Citroen car chase, rock climbing, Bond kicking the car from the cliff, Bond skiing in a Bobsled run chased by motorcylces, the Keelhauling. These are all very memorable and unique action scenes. Even the PTS, silly as it is, is very memorable and contained some great stunt work (they tried to copy it in SP).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    FYEO has some incredible moments and it's beautiful to look at on blu ray, but it seems to lack some spark, I'll admit. I can't put my finger on it, but everyone seems dialed back and almost comatose, including most surprisingly, Roger Moore. Like they are all intentionally trying to suppress their charisma. I'm not sure if that's because Glen was getting his feet wet or not. Everything is back to normal with OP though, which has the enthusiasm meter dialed way up.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    bondjames wrote: »
    FYEO has some incredible moments and it's beautiful to look at on blu ray, but it seems to lack some spark, I'll admit. I can't put my finger on it, but everyone seems dialed back and almost comatose, including most surprisingly, Roger Moore. Like they are all intentionally trying to suppress their charisma. I'm not sure if that's because Glen was getting his feet wet or not. Everything is back to normal with OP though, which has the enthusiasm meter dialed way up.

    I think its the way the films lit that makes it somehow "lack spark". They use "soft lighting" in quite a few darker scenes (the casino) and it makes it seem a little cheap.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2016 Posts: 23,883
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    FYEO has some incredible moments and it's beautiful to look at on blu ray, but it seems to lack some spark, I'll admit. I can't put my finger on it, but everyone seems dialed back and almost comatose, including most surprisingly, Roger Moore. Like they are all intentionally trying to suppress their charisma. I'm not sure if that's because Glen was getting his feet wet or not. Everything is back to normal with OP though, which has the enthusiasm meter dialed way up.

    I think its the way the films lit that makes it somehow "lack spark". They use "soft lighting" in quite a few darker scenes (the casino) and it makes it seem a little cheap.
    I am not a fan of the casino scene in FYEO. It seemed 'smoky' to me and without the clarity which characterized the CR & GE scenes in particular. Shame, as I think it was Moore's only traditional casino scene during his 12 yr run.
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
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    Let's see where I am right now. Couple changes.

    24: Diamonds Are Forever
    23: Die Another Day
    22: The Man with the Golden Gun
    21: Moonraker
    20: Tomorrow Never Dies
    19: Live and Let Die
    18: Thunderball
    17: Goldfinger
    16: A View to a Kill
    15: For Your Eyes Only
    14: You Only Live Twice
    13: Quantum of Solace
    12: Dr. No
    11: The World is Not Enough
    10: Octopussy
    9: SPECTRE
    8: Licence to Kill
    7: GoldenEye
    6: From Russia With Love
    5: The Spy Who Loved Me
    4: Skyfall
    3: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2: The Living Daylights
    1: Casino Royale
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    I guess it is because of the characters, especially the villains, why FYEO is often overlooked or forgotten. They are rather normal human beings without any particular lair, weapon or unique characteristic. If you expect this from every Bond film it is indeed very difficult to enjoy FYEO. I still like it that way since for 2/3 of the film it is not obvious who the main villain actually is. Therefore it is one of the more suspensefull stories that is also very close to some of Flemming's novels.


  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    LALD & FYEO are my favorite Moore Bonds. Moore Fleming and Moore playing Bond is the height of his talents.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    I also like Moore in FYEO. A good balance between charming gentleman and assertive leader (him leading Columbo's men in the climax).
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Yep.
  • JWPepperJWPepper You sit on it, but you can't take it with you.
    edited December 2016 Posts: 512
    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Casino Royale
    4. The Spy Who Loved Me
    5. Dr. No
    6. Spectre
    7. Thunderball
    8. Skyfall
    9. For Your Eyes Only
    10. Goldfinger
    11. Diamonds Are Forever
    12. Live And Let Die
    13. Quantum of Solace
    14. The Living Daylights
    15. Goldeneye
    16. Licence To Kill
    17. A View to a Kill
    18. You Only Live Twice
    19. Octopussy
    20. Tomorrow Never Dies
    21. Moonraker
    22. The World Is Not Enough
    23. Die Another Day
    24. The Man with the Golden Gun
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    My revamped list for 2016 includes mostly some random changes in the middle. Otherwise it is unchanged since last year.


    1. Quantum of Solace
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Casino Royale
    4. Thunderball
    5. Goldfinger
    6. Dr. No
    7. The Spy Who Loved Me
    8. Spectre
    9. The Man With The Golden Gun
    10. You Only Live Twice
    11. Octopussy
    12. From Russia With Love
    13. Diamonds Are Forever
    14. Skyfall
    15. Goldeneye
    16. Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. Live And Let Die
    18. Moonraker
    19. For Your Eyes Only
    20. The Living Daylights
    21. Licence To Kill
    22. Die Another Day
    23. A View To A Kill
    24. The World is Not Enough

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    Haven't updated this in a while. Subject to change, this Top 5 is bound to change many, many times before this forum-wide Bondathon is over.

    1.) DN
    2.) OHMSS
    3.) LALD
    4.) TSWLM
    5.) GF
    6.) YOLT
    7.) FRWL
    8.) TB
    9.) DAF
    10.) TMWTGG
    11.) MR
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    @JWPepper, that is an excellent top ten.
  • JWPepperJWPepper You sit on it, but you can't take it with you.
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    @JWPepper, that is an excellent top ten.

    Thanks!

  • M16_CartM16_Cart Craig fanboy?
    Posts: 541
    I'm having trouble ranking borderline cases, and that might change once I roll out my official 2017 list later this year.

    License to Kill (at 4) and Octopussy (at 5).

    How do you compare a really good serious Bond film against an equally really good colorful Bond film. It's apples vs. oranges.

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (at 6) and The Living Daylights (at 7)

    Both have good plots and great action. Former has a better directing but latter has a better lead actor. I find them both to be near-great films.

    Goldeneye (at 12) and The Spy Who Loved Me (at 13)

    Both are similar. Both had formulaic plots but did the formula very well. Both have great casts and both added their own flavor to the franchise. Both showcased the talents of the lead actors. Both also had a slow first hour.

    Thunderball (at 14) and From Russia With Love (at 15)

    Thunderball is way more entertaining but also has way more boring scenes. From Russia With Love I find both brilliantly done, but also dull in some ways.

    Tomorrow Never Dies (at 16) vs. The World Is Not Enough (at 17) vs. Spectre (at 18)

    I think this decision is the toughest.

    TND has the best action and is really fun, but it's also generic and the plot is shallow.

    TWINE had really awesome concepts and ideas, but the execution was awful.

    Spectre was an all around well made action movie that did something good in many aspects, but it didn't specialize in anything. Maybe I do like it above the other two, but the impact it's plot may have on the franchise is still deeply offensive to me. Perhaps I'm overpunishing it.

  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. DR NO
    4.THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    8. CASINO ROYALE
    9. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. OCTOPUSSY
    11. A VIEW TO A KILL
    12. SKYFALL
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    14. LICENCE TO KILL
    15. LIVE AND LET DIE
    16. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    17. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    18. SPECTRE
    19. GOLDENEYE
    20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/ CR '54
    21. MOONRAKER
    22. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    23. CASINO ROYALE '67
    24. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    25. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    26. DIE ANOTHER DAY
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Not a bad list......
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. DR NO
    4.THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    8. CASINO ROYALE

    That is an excellent top 8 there

  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    royale65 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. DR NO
    4.THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    8. CASINO ROYALE

    That is an excellent top 8 there

    Thanks!
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