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  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited September 2017 Posts: 11,189
    Birdleson wrote: »
    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    That makes sense @Birdleson. What makes Live and Let Die so appealing to you, though? Is it the unique atmosphere of it all? Is it how it proved Bond could persist beyond the Blofeld era?

    I just love it every time that I watch it. It's the only one that makes me laugh out loud. I love all of the Blaxploitation stuff, and Roger is about as cool as any Bond that we've ever gotten in that one.

    It's never been one of my favourites but one of the most fun things about LALD is it's dialogue.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    It almost didn't make the cut.

    So you were indecisive about that one as well?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Essential Bond? Here's my opinion:

    DN
    FRWL
    GF
    TB
    OHMSS
    LALD
    TSWLM
    LTK
    GE
    CR
    SF

    I think with these, one gets pretty much the entirety of Bond in all it's shapes and forms (zany, thriller, outlandish, revenge driven, greatest hits, character driven, emotional).
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    Nice to see that we all seem to think Connery's early movies are all essentials, and that we've got more of his flicks than any of the others'. Shows that he captured the essence of Bond (cinematic Bond, at least) like no other.
  • StrogStrog
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    Yes, the first three are no-brainers — personally, the entire 60s catalogue is a no-brainer, but I do recognize why some may be happy to allow YOLT to be erased. From an austere point-of-view, I'd be tempted to leave the 'essentials' at just the 1960s films. However, post-OHMSS, I these would be the ones I'd most protest at the world's having to do without:

    TSWLM
    MR
    GE
    CR
    QOS

  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    1. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    2. GOLDFINGER
    3. DR NO
    4.THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. THUNDERBALL
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. CASINO ROYALE 06
    8. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    9. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. LICENCE TO KILL
    11. SKYFALL
    12. GOLDENEYE
    13. LIVE AND LET DIE
    14. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    15. A VIEW TO A KILL
    16. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    17. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    18. SPECTRE
    19. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/CR 54
    21. MOONRAKER
    22. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    23. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY/CR 67
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Great Top 7! If you shoved LALD in that front pack you'd have the same Top 8 as me (different order).

    Thanks. Gave FRWL the top spot as GF had been my number one for quite some time now. I just love the attache case, the intrigue and all the characters: Grant, Kerim, Klebb. Tatiana. A true classic. I think I usually have LALD up more, but thought it was time to give Pierce and Dan more love.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Essential Bond films? A no brainer.

    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale
    Quantum Of Solace
    Skyfall
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Essential Bond films? A no brainer.

    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale
    Quantum Of Solace
    Skyfall

    Swap GF for OP and TLD for LTK and bravo !!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Much as I love Octopussy I would hardly call it an 'essential' Bond film.

    I find Licence To Kill the biggest missed opportunity in the series.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Essential Bond films? A no brainer.

    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live & Let Die
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The Living Daylights
    Licence to Kill
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    I would trade it for GE instead!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited September 2017 Posts: 7,207
    My Bond Essentials (emphasizing the subjectivity involved here):
    - From Russia with Love
    - Thunderball
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    - The Man with the Golden Gun
    - The Living Daylights
    - Licence to Kill
    - GoldenEye
    - The World Is Not Enough

    If asked to be more objective, I'd say:
    - Dr. No
    - From Russia with Love
    - Goldfinger
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    My Bond Essentials (emphasizing the subjectivity involved here):
    - From Russia with Love
    - Thunderball
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    - The Man with the Golden Gun
    - The Living Daylights
    - Licence to Kill
    - GoldenEye
    - The World Is Not Enough

    If asked to be more objective, I'd say:
    - Dr. No
    - From Russia with Love
    - Goldfinger
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service

    Not a Daniel Craig Bond fan then ,GG ?

  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited September 2017 Posts: 7,207
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.

    Still, Quantum of Solace made it into my last top 10. I think he's very good in that one.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,207
    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.

    For me it's absolutely essential that James Bond doesn't come across as working class, that's why he's my #6.

    He doesn't come across as working class too much in QOS, that's probably why his second outing is my favourite of his.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.
    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.

    Mmmm. Both Connery and Moore were from very working class backgrounds? I'm not sure what is more 'blue collar' or working class about Craig. His accent is fairly well spoken and he demonstrates all the refinements of his predecessors when playing the role. In reality yes the actor Craig is working class, but so were Moore and Connery.



  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,198
    suavejmf wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.
    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.

    Mmmm. Both Connery and Moore were from very working class backgrounds? I'm not sure what is more 'blue collar' or working class about Craig. His accent is fairly well spoken and he demonstrates all the refinements of his predecessors when playing the role. In reality yes the actor Craig is working class, but so were Moore and Connery.



    I think it has to do with his look. He is certainly dressed differently and his behaviour is rather normal. He is drinking Heineken which is certainly not the best taste. All in all, you would not imagine that he cares very much about haute cuisine, the right drink or the right dress for a particular occasion. In all the other films, this is one the main elements that differentiates Bond from other heroes...


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.
    bondjames wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Would never say he's bad, but he's my least favourite.

    Not enough bon vivant and too much everyman and muscleman for my tastes.
    He's far from my least favourite but I certainly agree with your assessment. He's easily the most working class blue collar of the Bond actors.

    Mmmm. Both Connery and Moore were from very working class backgrounds? I'm not sure what is more 'blue collar' or working class about Craig. His accent is fairly well spoken and he demonstrates all the refinements of his predecessors when playing the role. In reality yes the actor Craig is working class, but so were Moore and Connery.
    I wasn't referring to his actual background. Yes, I know that Moore and Connery were working class. My point is they sell the refined spy with considerable ease on screen. Craig doesn't for me. He got close in CR (it's difficult not to when half of the film is set in a high end casino) but even there he lacks the sophistication to my eyes. It's partially down to his look, but it's also because despite his many talents in other areas, he just doesn't convey the educated, elegant & cultured aspects of the role to me as well as the others, and most certainly not as well as Connery and Moore who were easily the best at that sort of thing. In fact, it is my major regret with his long tenure in the role. I long for a return to that cultivated, urbane and debonair spy with a deadly edge.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Fair enough. But in my opinion the sophistication is still there. Espaecially in CR. Bond still speaks well, has tailered suits, aspires to nice hotels, drinks Martinis, Bollinger, high end Whiskey and rum, eats Caviar. My only criticism is his Apartment which was out of character I agree....it would perfectly furnished and cleaned by a maid/May. Not how it is depicted in SP.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Yes @suavejmf, I think CR captured it best. The entire later half of the film reeks of that old school sophistication due to the setting and particularly due to Green. However, one can't film every Bond film in a casino, and from that point onwards it's just not there for me. They have certainly attempted to 'insert' it into the films (including the Bollinger in SP) but there's something about him that just doesn't sell it to me. It takes a certain kind of actor to more readily convey that urbane sophistication for me without coming across like a toff. That's where one must be adept at delivering the bon mots with authority and conviction, which is something he has been unable to credibly do for me.
  • AnthraxAnthrax Sweden
    Posts: 77
    After finishing my James Bond marathon yesterday, my list now looks like this:

    1. TWINE
    2. GE
    3. CR
    4. OHMSS
    5. FYEO
    6. TMWTGG
    7. DAD
    8. LTK
    9. TLD
    10. GF
    11. FRWL
    12. AVTAK
    13. TND
    14. TSWLM
    15. LALD
    16. SP
    17. SF
    18. YOLT
    19. QoS
    20. MR
    21. OP
    22. Dr.No
    23. DAF
    24. TB

    If I were to put them in tiers:
    S: TWINE, GE and CR
    A: OHMSS, FYEO and TMWTGG
    B: DAD, LTK, TLD, GF and FRWL
    C: AVTAK, TND, TSWLM and LALD
    D: SP, SF, YOLT and QoS
    Meh: MR, OP, Dr. No and DAF
    Thunderball: TB
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Yes @suavejmf, I think CR captured it best. The entire later half of the film reeks of that old school sophistication due to the setting and particularly due to Green. However, one can't film every Bond film in a casino, and from that point onwards it's just not there for me. They have certainly attempted to 'insert' it into the films (including the Bollinger in SP) but there's something about him that just doesn't sell it to me. It takes a certain kind of actor to more readily convey that urbane sophistication for me without coming across like a toff. That's where one must be adept at delivering the bon mots with authority and conviction, which is something he has been unable to credibly do for me.

    I agree, but I think his most "cultivated" performance was in QOS. Love his attire in that one. Also moments like when he changes hotels or has wine with Mathis. Excellent work by Dan in those scenes.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Yes @suavejmf, I think CR captured it best. The entire later half of the film reeks of that old school sophistication due to the setting and particularly due to Green. However, one can't film every Bond film in a casino, and from that point onwards it's just not there for me. They have certainly attempted to 'insert' it into the films (including the Bollinger in SP) but there's something about him that just doesn't sell it to me. It takes a certain kind of actor to more readily convey that urbane sophistication for me without coming across like a toff. That's where one must be adept at delivering the bon mots with authority and conviction, which is something he has been unable to credibly do for me.

    I agree, but I think his most "cultivated" performance was in QOS. Love his attire in that one. Also moments like when he changes hotels or has wine with Mathis. Excellent work by Dan in those scenes.
    Yes, that's a good point. QoS did capture it quite well also. The way they did it there suited the tone and approach they took for that film. It was shown to us through character moments. The clothing certainly helped to convey the sophistication, particularly at Mathis's. It's been completely lost with Temime imho.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Birdleson wrote: »
    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    That makes sense @Birdleson. What makes Live and Let Die so appealing to you, though? Is it the unique atmosphere of it all? Is it how it proved Bond could persist beyond the Blofeld era?

    I just love it every time that I watch it. It's the only one that makes me laugh out loud. I love all of the Blaxploitation stuff, and Roger is about as cool as any Bond that we've ever gotten in that one.

    I love it too. Moore is brilliant in LALD too. Suave, sophisticated and cool. The bad guys are fresh, unique and interesting too.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    suavejmf wrote: »

    I love it too. Moore is brilliant in LALD too. Suave, sophisticated and cool. The bad guys are fresh, unique and interesting too.

    I'd also say it's the best movie overall in terms of villains. Kananga may not be my favorite main villain, nor Teehee my favorite henchman, but as an overall ensemble, those two with Samedi, Adam, and Whisper are untouchable.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    I love it too. Moore is brilliant in LALD too. Suave, sophisticated and cool. The bad guys are fresh, unique and interesting too.

    I'd also say it's the best movie overall in terms of villains. Kananga may not be my favorite main villain, nor Teehee my favorite henchman, but as an overall ensemble, those two with Samedi, Adam, and Whisper are untouchable.
    I agree. The villain roster is superb. I feel the same way about OP but to a lesser degree.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    bondjames wrote: »
    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    I love it too. Moore is brilliant in LALD too. Suave, sophisticated and cool. The bad guys are fresh, unique and interesting too.

    I'd also say it's the best movie overall in terms of villains. Kananga may not be my favorite main villain, nor Teehee my favorite henchman, but as an overall ensemble, those two with Samedi, Adam, and Whisper are untouchable.
    I agree. The villain roster is superb. I feel the same way about OP but to a lesser degree.

    The twins are inspired and I've always liked Berkoff too. On the other hand, Kamal is only servicable in my book and Gobinda doesn't do much at all for me.

    I think FRWL had the best villain roster: Klebb, Grant, Kronsteen, Morzeny and unseen Blofeld. Even side villains like Krilencu and Benz are memorable for me.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »

    I love it too. Moore is brilliant in LALD too. Suave, sophisticated and cool. The bad guys are fresh, unique and interesting too.

    I'd also say it's the best movie overall in terms of villains. Kananga may not be my favorite main villain, nor Teehee my favorite henchman, but as an overall ensemble, those two with Samedi, Adam, and Whisper are untouchable.
    I agree. The villain roster is superb. I feel the same way about OP but to a lesser degree.

    The twins are inspired and I've always liked Berkoff too. On the other hand, Kamal is only servicable in my book and Gobinda doesn't do much at all for me.

    I think FRWL had the best villain roster: Klebb, Grant, Kronsteen, Morzeny and unseen Blofeld. Even side villains like Krilencu and Benz are memorable for me.
    Another excellent choice, and I was actually thinking of FRWL as well when I mentioned OP earlier.
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