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I see the Mendes entries do nothing for you and QoS isn't all that high either. I suppose the last decade hasn't been that pleasant. I've sometimes wondered, given the length of time between films these days, how I would feel if I didn't like a few films in succession. Thankfully that hasn't happened since the Brosnan days, and at that point they were churning them out more regularly, which blunted the pain.
Didn't blunt the pain for me am afraid! Each one was worse than the last.
There may be issues with the Craig era, but I never dread looking forward to the next one as I did in the Brosnan era.
Am really looking forward to Bond 25, and mostly because Craig is returning!
I don't share fans optimism for the future after he is gone. None of the frontrunners give me any inkling they are a safe bet!
I'm afraid the last two films lack any...Fun. Soul. Character. Even poorer qualities entries like TMWTGG and DAF are fun. DAD is cringeworthy. But they elicit some response from me. Spectre is just....there, like a kite drifting through the air. Skyfall at least had themes and mostly gels together but I've never been a fan of the pacing or action (beautiful, artistic but not thrilling).
As for TLD OP FRWL I can skip to any random moment and enjoy it. The other films will have at least some moments I dont like
@Birdleson
I imagine my final list will be similar. I don't expect much jumping between tiers (aside from middle ones maybe). You'll be pleased GF (and LALD) is so high now as it was much lower before
Most Bond movies actually have sections of dullness, the only clear exception would be QOS, which moves like an express train!
You have YOLT higher than what I've generally seen too. Good to see the love, even though it's not one of my faves.
My hat's off to you for the TMWTGG and DAF positions.
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. The Living Daylights
4. Goldeneye
5. From Russia With Love
6. Goldfinger
7. Live And Let Die
8. Casino Royale
9. Thunderball
10. Octopussy
11. You Only Live Twice
12. Tomorrow Never Dies
13. For Eyes Only Only
14. The Man With The Golden Gun
15. The Spy Who Loved Me
16. The World Is Not Enough
17. A View To A Kill
18. Skyfall
19. Diamonds Are Forever
20. Die Another Day
21. SPECTRE
22. Quantum of Solace
23. License To Kill
24. Moonraker
I’ve traditionally had this one low on my list for the unforgivable return of Sheriff Pepper, “take him to school” and Goodnight’s sheer idiocy.
However, on a recent viewing, I noticed a slinky, sleazy, kinky, taught thriller begging to be allowed to shine.
Quite simply, Bond’s cat-and-mouse with Scaramanga over the course of the movie is a wonderfully serpentine thing, greatly original in the Bond canon. Roger Moore’s acting with Maud Adams is some of the best work he’s delivered.
The central plot line involving these three characters is where the film absolutely shines. That kick-boxing scene (scaramanga’s final assassination), as written, is an absolute corker and I feel a golden opportunity was wasted not utilising a director like Peter Hunt over the somewhat ham-fisted Guy Hamilton.
No doubt about it - TMWTGG is a dark horse indeed.
I agree. Barry's score for this film is pretty unique too, and helps the suspense.
It's still pretty good as is I feel. Shame Maud went out here. She's great in every scene she's in
Quite.
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Excellent top two if I may say so. The rest isn't bad either, even if it's not in line with my thinking. Just out of curiosity, where would you place NSNA?
In sporting parlance, an extra player on the field.
Haven't seen it in years, but do remember liking it. Probably around 16th.
1) On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
2) Casino Royale
3) From Russia With Love
4) Licence to Kill
5) The Spy Who Loved Me
6) For Your Eyes Only
7) Dr No
8) Thunderball
9) The Living Daylights
10) Octopussy
In essence, I am a John Glen / Peter Hunt man. Big fan of the proficient editors.
Also - savoir faire. I’ll take whatever I can get.
Nothing wrong with that!
That top 4 are perfect!
It's grown on me a lot over the past few years, which is why I was curious what you thought. I think it may be up your alley, given what I can tell from your list.
Might get that one eventually. NSNA is available on digital download too, so I guess that the digital version is of a good quality as well.
@bondjames
Previous summary (March 2018):
1. CR (2912)
2. OHMSS (2818)
3. FRWL (2781)
4. GF (2503)
5. TLD (2369)
6. DN (2236)
7. TSWLM (2224)
8. SF (2215)
9. GE (2194)
10. TB (2064)
11. LTK (1985)
12. FYEO (1833)
13. SP (1663)
14. LALD (1655)
15. OP (1553)
16. YOLT (1502)
17. QOS (1403)
18. TND (1233)
19. TMWTGG (1128)
20. MR (1099)
21. DAF (1059)
22. TWINE (1038)
23. AVTAK (906)
24. DAD (529)
Current summary (January 2019)
01, CR (3119)
02. OHMSS (3076)
03. FRWL (3012)
04. GF (2694)
05. TLD (2549)
06. DN (2438)
07. TSWLM (2410)
08. SF (2396)
09. GE (2360)
10. TB (2283)
11. LTK (2118)
12. FYEO (2007)
13. LALD (1834) (+1)
14. SP (1713) (-1)
15. OP (1700)
16. YOLT (1648)
17. QOS (1563)
18. TND (1330)
19. TMWTGG (1247)
20. MR (1179)
21. DAF (1174)
22. TWINE (1130)
23. AVTAK (955)
24. DAD (568)
Unsurprisingly, minimal change. I find rankings tend to remain static. Plus within a year there aren't a whole lot more rankings, mostly regular contributors who update their lists at least monthly.
01. CR (4157)
02. GF (3957) +2
03. FRWL (3736)
04. SF (3666) +4
05. GE (3575) +4
06. OHMSS (3344) -4
07. TSWLM (3182)
08. DN (2899) -2
09. LTK (2814) +2
10. TLD (2811) -5
11. SP (2424) +3
12. TB (2412) -2
13. LALD (2318)
14. FYEO (2313) -2
15. YOLT (2262) +1
16. TND (2039) +2
17. TMWTGG (1708) +2
18. TWINE (1682) +4
19. QOS (1569) -2
20. OP (1555) -5
21. DAF (1362)
22. MR (1351) -2
23. AVTAK (1302)
24. DAD (779)
Most significant differences:
- I'm surprised Goldfinger isn't up top, but certainly a much more common 1st position for GF among the 'general population'
- OHMSS and TLD are 4 and 5 positions lower respectively
- Skyfall and Goldeneye are 4 positions higher
- Octopussy is 5 positions higher at MI6
- TWINE is 4 positions lower at MI6
Usual disclaimer: these are taken from entertainment sites, random forums and a large number from youtube channels whose users may or may not be Bond fans
Re: the general consensus outside geek forums, I'm really not that surprised. I agree that GF not being up top is a bit surprising, but #2 is still reasonable. OHMSS and TLD being lower is as expected (those are only really appreciated on places like here). SF & GE are films which are generationally significant, and so I can appreciate why they are higher. OP is generally disregarded outside the fan sites. TWINE's improvement is unfortunate, but then again, they say the general public knows nothing. ;)
Great stuff. Thanks again.
@bondjames
Thanks. What's also interesting is QoS being slightly higher on here due to reappraisal by some members here but not as significant as some might believe
1. The Living Daylights
2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
3. Licence to Kill
4. From Russia with Love
5. The World Is Not Enough
6. Thunderball
7. GoldenEye
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. The Man with the Golden Gun
10. Goldfinger
11. Dr. No
12. Octopussy
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13. Casino Royale
14. You Only Live Twice
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
16. For Your Eyes Only
17. A View to a Kill
18. Quantum of Solace
19. Live and Let Die
20. Skyfall
21. Diamonds Are Forever
22. Moonraker
23. Die Another Day
24. Spectre
1. Casino Royale
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. Thunderball
4. Goldfinger
5. Skyfall
6. From Russia with Love
7. Dr. No
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
9. GoldenEye
10. Live and Let Die
11. For Your Eyes Only
12. Quantum of Solace
13. Licence to Kill
14. The Living Daylights
15. Octopussy
16. You Only Live Twice
17. A View to a Kill
18. Tomorrow Never Dies
19. Moonraker
20. The Man with the Golden Gun
21. The World Is Not Enough
22. Spectre
23. Diamonds Are Forever
24. Die Another Day
TMWTGG moved up a bit. I considered putting it above MR as well, but left it just behind for now. SP drops a bit lower, but it's practically tied with TWINE for me. I'm still slightly unsure about TB being my #3, above GF, SF, and FRWL, but I've just had so much fun with it lately, and in a way it delivers the best balance of the Connery era. It may fall down again eventually but I'll keep it there for now. I always have a lot of fun ranking these films, because I know some of my opinions will change a little bit every year.
1. From Russia with Love (+1)
2. On her Majesty's Secret Service (-1)
3. Casino Royale (-)
4. Thunderball (+3)
5. Quantum of Solace (-1)
6. Licence to Kill (-)
7. Octopussy (+1)
8. GoldenEye (-3)
9. Skyfall (-)
10. The World is not Enough (+2)
11. The Spy who Loved Me (-1)
12. Tomorrow Never Dies (-1)
13. A View to a Kill (-)
14. Live and Let Die (-)
15. Doctor No (-)
16. Goldfinger (-)
17. Diamonds are Forever (-)
18. You Only Live Twice (+2)
19. The Man with the Golden Gun (-1)
20. Die Another Day (-1)
21. For Your Eyes Only (+1)
22. Spectre ( +2)
23. Moonraker (-2)
24. The Living Daylights (-1)
Replace GF with LTK in your top 10 and you have the same films as me in there, but with a different order. TB is a blast, so I can understand your ranking. I knocked it down a few spots after my second last viewing, but after the group thing we did a month back I feel like I should move it back up again once I do my next list.
Love the top 4. 6-9 is great too.