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You are not alone. I too rank the four Brosnan films at the bottom of the barrel. Not just because I care not for Brosnan as Bond, although that is indeed a factor. The whole era is just so unlovable. The things I enjoy are so few I can fit them in one post, and not a long one either.
1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Doctor No
4. The Spy Who Loved Me
5. The Living Daylights
6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
7. You Only Live Twice
8. Octopussy
9. For Your Eyes Only
10. Licence To Kill
11. Quantum Of Solace
12. Casino Royale
13. A View To A Kill
14. Thunderball
15. Moonraker
16. Live And Let Die
17. Diamonds Are Forever
18. Tomorrow Never Dies
19. Skyfall
20. The Man With The Golden Gun
21. GoldenEye
22. The World Is Not Enough
23. Die Another Day
12. CR
19. SF
Hmmm...
I'm not saying Skyfall is flawless (or that AVTAK and DAF don't have their merits) but...common @Getafix. Surely Craig and Bardem are worth more quality-wise than the ageing Connery/Moore duo, endless stunt doubles, Grace Jones and Charles Gray in drag.
(A lot of your other choices I can sort of see the logic though - even if I don't agree)
I found AVTAK a lot more entertaining than Skyfall, which I find to be a little overrated IMHO. I cannot express anymore on this thread how much I regard AVTAK without any eye rolling.
Hmm...fair enough. Each to their own. I just would have thought in terms of directing and performances alone SF is automatically in a higher tier to AVTAK (at least Daniel Craig doesn't act like a lechy old man at times either).
Yes, for me this is about entertainment value and ranking films in the order that I enjoy them. I'd rather watch AVTAK than Bond23, so I ranked it more highly. Silva's entry is fantastic but for me at least, every scene after that is an anticlimax. Give me Max Zorin machine gunning his own goons while laughing maniacally in AVTAK any day!
Ha. Even Moore thought that was too much apparently. I agree its a good scene but don't know whether its better than most of Silva's stuff in SF (particularly his entrance and the chapel showdown with M).
I thought Moore looked great for 58 in AVTAK, much better than Octopussy. His performance was as good as ever. And I thought that Walken as Zorin nailed it, an eerie demeanour and a psychotic personna. I thought his performance was better than Bardem, and I don't like the scene with the hydron cyanide deformity...
I don't think he regrets being Bond at all (it got him a lot more money), just the overt violence associated with it. A bit odd I know but then again he has admitted to being a pacifist.
I think he looked better in OP and gave a better performance too. When he smiles at times in AVTAK his skin stretches out and looks weird
Me too. I wouldn't be surprised if he never saw it.
For me TB represents a massive drop off after the first 3. After that they got into this thing of having to 'top' the last one. And then doing a 'serious' back to basics one, etc... It was inevitable. I just think the first 3 hold their own on pretty much every level.
Besides, as much as I love Goldfinger was pretty daft at times with those cartoon comic relief gangsters. You couldn't imagine them in DN or FRWL.
So Dr No is a less daft character than Goldfinger...?
In the film adaptations yes. He has a more sinister presence about him...and No as a film is, overall, played relatively straight with little comic relief.
I guess it depends on how seriously you take the basic premise of an evil Chinese criminal genius mastermind with metal hands living in a huge secret underground nuclear powered lair hidden on a small island off the coast Jamaica - which in the context of the film is a British colony - whose chosen method of assasination is... spiders (oooh, scary). Seen from a wider context the comedy is inherent in the whole set up (exactly what Mike Myers so affectionately lampoons) - not that this detracts from my enjoyment of Dr No.
FRWL is I suppose by comparison a bit more plausible, but I've never bought the idea that the OTT formula only came in with GF. Considering the budget constraints, EON and Ken Adam managed to cram in quite a bit of YOLT OTT-ness into DN.
IMO Joseph Wiseman/Dr No has a degree of menace about him that I don't think Frobe/Goldfinger has as much of (that's left to Oddjob), and makes a fairly absurd character seem plausible and threatening - albeit vaguely.
Goldfinger is in my top 5 but it's definitely bigger in scale than the last two. That's perhaps where the idea of the OTT-ness comes from.