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  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,596
    Don't listen to @chrisisall. He's just joking around, I hope. All opinions are welcome.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited March 2015 Posts: 1,263
    With the weekend marathon, I can actually say I am now quite confident in my list with a margin of error of ±3 for each film. I like to use descriptive stats, so I figured I would break down my interests into a few categories to see if it reflects anything about me.

    Rankings By Decade:
    1. 2010 (2.0)
    2. 1990 (9.0)
    3. 2000 (9.7)
    4. 1960 (10.0)
    5. 1980 (14.0)
    6. 1970 (17.4)

    Rankings By Bond:
    1. Craig (4.3)
    2. Connery (10.2)
    3. Brosnan (11.5)
    4. Lazenby (12.0)
    5. Dalton (15.5)
    6. Moore (16.1)

    Rankings By M:
    1. Dench (8.4)
    2. Lee (13.4)
    3. Brown (16.0)

    These rankings do indeed display my preferences. I was introduced to Bond in the 1990s and rank those favorably as a result. Though, Casino Royale is solely responsible for making the 2000s higher than the originals in the 1960s. The 1980s edge ahead of the 1970s because I have a higher appreciation for late Moore since he proved he could adapt his interpretation of the role when he was supposed to be past his prime, with the exception of A View To A Kill, and Dalton ranking high with his first outing in my rankings.

    In terms of actors, the two rankings are nearly perfect in displaying my preferences. The one note I have to add is that I have my doubts about Lazenby as a long-term Bond. I feel he has the weakest stage presence of the bunch. He had the benefit of starring in a good film that suited his delivery. The softness of his persona in comparison to other Bonds is well suited for On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Perhaps I am completely off-base in my analysis and he was a roughrider who had outstanding staying power. But on that one performance alone, it's difficult for me to say definitively if I prefer his rendition more than Dalton and Moore, who both brought a lot of fine qualities to their characters.

    And M's just for fun.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    Don't listen to @chrisisall. He's just joking around, I hope. All opinions are welcome.
    I never joke around. I am always dead serious.
    ...
    Well, okay, I *do* joke around... sometimes.
    ...
    Well, all right, I'm just a severe Daltonite. And a Brozzer.
    But yeah, all opinions are welcome.
    *chokes & gags*
    No, really. All opinions.
    *coughs up blood*



  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    I have been watching FRWL a lot the past few weeks. It is moving up up up my rankings.

    1. CR
    GF
    SF
    TB
    (I am taking the coward's way out and giving them a four-way tie for first)

    5. FRWL
    6. YOLT
    7. LALD
    8. TSWLM
    9. OHMSS
    10. QoS
    11. DAF
    12. DN
    13. LTK
    14. TMWTGG
    15. AVTAK
    16. OP
    17. GE
    18. TLD
    19. FYEO*
    20. MR*
    21. TND
    22. TWINE
    23. DAD
    *moving up despite my general distaste for both. I have to admit: Moore at his worst is still better than Brosnan at his most mediocre.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    No gripes with the top three or bottom three.
  • Kostas_PKostas_P
    Posts: 159
    Tough, but i'll give it a try

    1. From Russia With Love
    2. Goldfinger
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Thunderball
    5. Casino Royale
    6. Dr. No
    7. Live And Let Die
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. You Only Live Twice
    10. The Man With The Golden Gun
    11. Skyfall
    12. Goldeneye
    13. Octopussy
    14. Licence To Kill
    15. Diamonds Are Forever
    16. The Living Daylights
    17. For Your Eyes Only
    18. Quantum Of Solace
    19. The World Is Not Enough
    20. Moonraker
    21. Tomorrow Never Dies
    22. A View To A Kill
    23. Die Another Day
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    TripAces wrote: »
    I have been watching FRWL a lot the past few weeks. It is moving up up up my rankings.

    1. CR
    GF
    SF
    TB
    (I am taking the coward's way out and giving them a four-way tie for first)

    5. FRWL
    6. YOLT
    7. LALD
    8. TSWLM
    9. OHMSS
    10. QoS
    11. DAF
    12. DN
    13. LTK
    14. TMWTGG
    15. AVTAK
    16. OP
    17. GE
    18. TLD
    19. FYEO*
    20. MR*
    21. TND
    22. TWINE
    23. DAD
    *moving up despite my general distaste for both. I have to admit: Moore at his worst is still better than Brosnan at his most mediocre.

    Agreed and seconded. Unquestionably.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Monthly update on the avarage ranking.

    1 FRWL
    2 CR
    3 OHMSS
    4 GF
    5 TB
    6 SF up from 7
    7 TSWLM down from 6
    8 DN up from 10
    9 GE down from 8
    10TLD down from 9
    11FYEO
    12LALD up from 13
    13LTK down from 12
    13YOLT up from 15
    15OP down from 14
    16QOS
    17TWINE
    18TMWTGG
    19TND
    20DAF up from 22
    21MR down from 20
    22AVTAK down from 21
    23DAD
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    1. TLD
    2. LTK (these two switch constantly)
    3. TND
    4. DN
    5. FRWL
    6. YOLT
    7. GE
    8. OHMSS
    9. QOS
    10. TWINE
    11. TB
    12. GF
    13. LALD
    14. OP
    15. TMWTGG
    16. CR
    17. FYEO
    18. DAF
    19. DAD
    20. TSWLM
    21. SF


    22. AVTAK
    23. MR
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    You have two of my Top Ten at 20 and 21.
    My list is by preference, not actual quality.
    ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I would hope that all our lists are such.
    Here's my 99% Objective Quality list:

    1. FRWL
    2.
    ..okay, it's not as easy as I thought...
    :\">
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    You have two of my Top Ten at 20 and 21.
    My list is by preference, not actual quality.
    ;)

    I am glad you have pointed that out, because three of my films rank high based on a subjective preference over quality. After all, we can all say Schindler's List is a great film...but it isn't one you'd sit down and watch for the joy of it. So, yes, there is a distinction.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    I know, objectively speaking, that my bottom 4 are pretty much set forever:

    20. MR
    21. AVTAK
    22. DAD
    23. TWINE

    The top is more difficult to assess.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    Birdleson wrote: »
    @chrisisall , I think quality is very objective. Go with your preferences.

    @TripAces , I don't think we can all say that SCHINDLER'S LIST is a great film. I think it is a good, but flaws movie. It certainly has great visuals and some raw moments, but a lot of the dialogue come soft as forced, even stilted, to me. That may fit into some of his more adventurous fare, but it certainly hurts SL, as well as SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. With both of those films I find myself enjoying the purely docudrama pieces (Warsaw ghetto massacre, storming Normandy, etc.). Spielberg loses me with his characterizations, always too broad and obvious. Although I do think that he has made a few great films (JAWS, RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND); the ones that require the actors to be a little more broad and a little more obvious.

    I get your point. My point was that SL is considered a great film (#8 on AFI's list: http://www.afi.com/100years/movies10.aspx) but it's not one you sit and watch for fun.

    I can say that quality-wise, DN is much better than DAF. But damn...DAF is so much fun, and I have a lot of fun watching its ridiculousness. Thus, I rank DAF higher.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    TripAces wrote: »
    I can say that quality-wise, DN is much better than DAF. But damn...DAF is so much fun, and I have a lot of fun watching its ridiculousness. Thus, I rank DAF higher.
    I used to be the same, but as I've gotten ancient I find that DN is way more interesting on almost every level except its score.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,596
    My ranking is a mixture of quality and preference, and I respect my own opinions and tastes enough that the two are nearly synonymous.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    I respect my own opinions and tastes enough that the two are nearly synonymous.
    It's nice to be young. I was there once.
    :))
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,596
    You no longer respect your own opinion? Or is this some backhanded ageism dig at me for considering my favorites of the series to also be of superior quality? Isn't it all personal opinion anyways, as long as I defend my choices? All of us on this board certainly can, as we've seen the films so many times.

    I don't think it makes me pretentious, I just respect my own opinions and tastes.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    Isn't it all personal opinion anyways
    LOL, not if you directly say you preferences are also nearly synonymous with quality picks.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,596
    I don't see there being anything wrong with me preferring film X to film Y and also being of the opinion that film X is superior to film Y. If I can cite "evidence" to support my claims my opinion is as valid as any.

    I'd rather not get into a discussion on the subjectivity of art, but people disagree on a film's quality for a reason, and it isn't because one participant is "stupid."

    I, more or less, rank the Bond films according to quality. Now, in a series of 24 films (I personally count NSNA) there are several cases where I feel two films are neck and neck in terms of quality. Then I'll just bump my personal preference to the spot above, hence why I said nearly synonymous. I rank the films I consider the "worst" at the bottom, and the ones I consider "best" at the top, and the middle numbers (like 11-16 or so) are pretty fluid, so I just rack my brain and go with my gut (personal preference) when typing out a numbered ranking.

    I'm not sure why I'm being attacked on this, honestly.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »

    I'm not sure why I'm being attacked on this, honestly.
    Not attacked, just made fun of, in an ageist goofy way. I see my younger self in you, and it makes me smile a bit.
    If ANYONE on this planet could actually quantify quality as it pertains to something as inherently subjective as popular film art, they might be ready to rule the Earth...
    B-)
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,596
    chrisisall wrote: »
    If ANYONE on this planet could actually quantify quality as it pertains to something as inherently subjective as popular film art, they might be ready to rule the Earth...
    B-)

    Oh, I absolutely agree with this. In fact, I don't think we're really in disagreement at all. Film art, (Bond), is inherently subjective, so it does all boil down to opinion.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I prefer to think of it as a maelstrom of absurdity.
  • ChangChang
    Posts: 107
    How about if you had to get rid of half of the Bond movies? You can never see the half you eliminate again.


    50% I would keep:

    Goldfinger
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Casino Royale
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    You Only Live Twice
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The Living Daylights
    For Your Eyes Only
    Quantum Of Solace
    Moonraker
    Octopussy


    50% I would discard:

    Die Another Day
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    A View To A Kill
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World Is Not Enough
    Skyfall
    Goldeneye
    Dr. No
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    License To Kill
    Live And Let Die
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,827
    Chang wrote: »

    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Goldeneye
    Dr. No
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    License To Kill
    Are you MAD?!?!?!?!
  • ChangChang
    Posts: 107
    Tough eliminations but I enjoy the other ones better.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,723
    I'd rather get rid of Twilight and other rubbish movies than getting rid forever of a Bond movie. Yes, even DAD I would keep. I enjoy all 23 Bond films so far, and wouldnt trade them for anything.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,596
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    I'd rather get rid of Twilight and other rubbish movies than getting rid forever of a Bond movie. Yes, even DAD I would keep. I enjoy all 23 Bond films so far, and wouldnt trade them for anything.

    Same here. I can enjoy all of them to some extent, and I love most of them.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    If I am stuck on a ship for a year and can watch just ten Bond films for that year, these are the ten I would have (slightly different from my top 10):

    CR
    GF
    SF
    TB
    FRWL
    YOLT
    DAF
    LTK
    LALD
    QoS
  • Mark_HazzardMark_Hazzard Classified
    Posts: 127
    GF
    GE
    TLD
    CR
    TB
    TSWLM
    TND
    ONHMSS
    FRWL
    TWMTGG
    TWINE
    LTK
    DRNO
    OP
    YOLT
    FYEO
    AVTK
    LALD
    MR
    DAF
    SF
    DAD
    QOS
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