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  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited August 2015 Posts: 1,263
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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2015 Posts: 15,718
    I took the weekend to think about it. This is my latest ranking:

    1. The Man With The Golden Gun
    2. Licence To Kill / The Living Daylights
    3. Octopussy / A View To A Kill / Quantum of Solace
    4. Goldeneye / For Your Eyes Only / Live and Let Die
    5. The Spy Who Loved Me / Tomorrow Never Dies/ Casino Royale
    6. Dr No / On Her Majesty's Secret Service / From Russia With Love
    7. Goldfinger / Skyfall
    8. Thunderball
    9. Moonraker / The World is Not Enough
    10. Diamonds Are Forever
    11. You Only Live Twice
    12. Die Another Day

    I had to put several outings equal, as otherwise some of the films I really enjoy would be too low.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
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    @DaltonCraig007

    Re-numbered your list to try to get a better understanding of how it compares with other rankings. Where's the cut-off between movies you enjoy and movies you don't as much?

    01. The Man With The Golden Gun
    02. Licence To Kill / The Living Daylights
    04. Octopussy / A View To A Kill / Quantum of Solace
    07. Goldeneye / For Your Eyes Only / Live and Let Die
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me / Tomorrow Never Dies/ Casino Royale
    13. Dr No / On Her Majesty's Secret Service / From Russia With Love
    16. Goldfinger / Skyfall
    18. Thunderball
    19. Moonraker / The World is Not Enough
    21. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. You Only Live Twice
    23. Die Another Day
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @AntiLocqueBrakes the cut-off point to the movies I enjoy less than the rest would be DAF in 21st place. From TMWTGG to MR/TWINE I would rate from a 10/10 to 8.5/10, and I could watch all of them over and over again. The last 3 I have more issues with when rewatching.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
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    Like you, I can watch most if not all Bonds over and over again without issue as well. I think that gets a little distorted on the forums because we are a bit more scrutinizing. But for the most part, with the exception of Die Another Day (and some cringeworthy moments in LALD and AVTAK), I can watch all the Bond movies all day every day.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Great to see some Octopussy appreciation @Signed_By_RogerMoore and @DaltonCraig007
    :-bd
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Benny wrote: »
    Great to see some Octopussy appreciation @Signed_By_RogerMoore and @DaltonCraig007
    :-bd

    And not only them!
    OP is my No 5 after GE TLD OHMSS and CR!
    I was tempted even to put CR after OP after my latest Bondathon, but I don't easily change my rankings, I have to be strongly convinced.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
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    Is there an OP thread? I'm interested (no prejudice) in hearing what you guys have to say about it.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    I recently gave a mini review of OCTOPUSSY in the Bondathon thread, where I gave it a glowing review. I think it boils down to the fact, although the first half is very good, too, that the scenes in Germany make for an absolute cracker of a third act.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited August 2015 Posts: 9,020
    AntiLocqueBrakes wrote: »
    Like you, I can watch most if not all Bonds over and over again without issue as well. I think that gets a little distorted on the forums because we are a bit more scrutinizing. But for the most part, with the exception of Die Another Day (and some cringeworthy moments in LALD and AVTAK), I can watch all the Bond movies all day every day.

    Very true. I'd rather write about my favourite parts in Bond movies, but get caught up in criticising too much or defending when once again Brosnan gets bashed.

    For you it's DAD for me it's DAF which I never look forward to re-watch.
    Cringeworthy moments for me only exist in QOS (every action scene as they are simply unwatchable)....oh and the flashlight disaster in SF.

    I'm not sure there is a OP thread. I'll look for one though.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited August 2015 Posts: 4,585
    Latest rankings, with categories and gaps (inspired by previous posters):

    The creme de le creme:

    1. TB
    2. SF
    3. CR
    4. GF

    The Second Tier Favorites:

    5. DAF
    6. FRWL
    7. QoS
    8. YOLT

    Diggin' It:

    9. LTK
    10. LALD
    11. TSWLM
    12. OHMSS
    13. TMWTGG
    14. DN

    Worth Watching:

    15. AVTAK
    16. OP
    17. GE
    18. TLD

    Ugh:

    19. TND
    20. TWINE
    21. FYEO
    22. DAD
    23. MR
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    TripAces wrote: »

    Ugh:

    19. TND

    [-(
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Not Brosnan fans I take it?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    He's a good Bond. Terrible scripts.
    Agreed. Simple enough.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    He's a good Bond. Terrible scripts.
    Agreed. Simple enough.

    The same can be said for the Craig movies.

    Terrible scripts. TND-SF. Says something about those writers. I wonder why they still have a job, but I guess artistic achievement isn't that important if they box office is satisfying.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I've enjoyed the writing in the Craig era, for the most part. The dialogue particularly. SKYFALL has some serious plot holes, no doubt, and most of Scotland is s waste of time, but still it contains some crisp dialogue.

    I agree on the dialogue, that is slightly better in CR to SF.
    But there is also great dialogue in GE to TWINE, especially everything with M, Q and Moneypenny, Zukovsky and Wade.
    The dialogue between Bond and Onatopp is priceless as well.

    Still, my favourite dialogue certainly is everything with Vesper, Mathis and Leiter or LeChiffre.
    But anything with Elvis is cringe-worthy (he even speaks Swiss-German on the phone with his mother for Christ's sake).
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
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    Agreed. Straight up …

    … with a twist.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    He's a good Bond. Terrible scripts.
    Agreed. Simple enough.

    The same can be said for the Craig movies

    What?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    jake24 wrote: »
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    He's a good Bond. Terrible scripts.
    Agreed. Simple enough.

    The same can be said for the Craig movies

    What?

    CR's script was perfectly fine up to venice, then it falls apart.
    QOS had no script at all it seems or it just goes under in the shaky-blurry-fast edited action.
    SF has the worst script ever of the whole series, so many plot holes, a Swiss cheese would get envious. Some of the stupidest moments ever in any script.
    The flashlight incident?
    The miraculously perfect timing of the subway crash?
    just to name some examples.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Venice was not CR's finest hour, but it essentially was the finale, so not a large part of the film. The rest of it (except for Miami) is excellent, imho.

    QoS is best considered a lengthy epilogue to the events of CR. It works best if viewed in that fashion and even it's breakneck pace is more acceptable then. I was in a mood for a Bond film yesterday but had limited time ...... the only one that would fit my time slot was QoS ..... I went to my collection to reach for it and then realized I lent it to my dad. Have to get the whole collection back soon in time for my upcoming Bondathon.

    SF is really all about quality characterizations & insight into motivations, themes and visuals. It nails it there. Plot is somewhat simplistic admittedly, & secondary
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Venice was not CR's finest hour, but it essentially was the finale, so not a large part of the film. The rest of it (except for Miami) is excellent, imho.

    QoS is best considered a lengthy epilogue to the events of CR. It works best if viewed in that fashion and even it's breakneck pace is more acceptable then. I was in a mood for a Bond film yesterday but had limited time ...... the only one that would fit my time slot was QoS ..... I went to my collection to reach for it and then realized I lent it to my dad. Have to get the whole collection back soon in time for my upcoming Bondathon.

    SF is really all about quality characterizations & insight into motivations, themes and visuals. It nails it there. Plot is somewhat simplistic admittedly, & secondary

    Agreed. But I like the Miami sequence actually.

    I find it irritating when Brosnan's movies get bashed for things that aren't really different in the current era. That was my point I was trying to make in my post, regarding "terrible" scripts.

    Here is again my ranking as it was before my current Bondathon:

    Goldeneye
    The Living Daylights
    OHMSS
    Casino Royale
    Octopussy

    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Licence To Kill
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    Skyfall
    Dr. No
    For Your Eyes Only

    The World Is Not Enough
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    A View To A Kill
    Quantum Of Solace

    Live And Let Die
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever

    There will actually be some changes which I will post soon. Just have to watch Skyfall first, the last movie in my Bondathon.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    TripAces wrote: »

    Ugh:

    21. FYEO

    [-(
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited September 2015 Posts: 2,252
    I would love for there to be a easy way to find out trends in rankings, such as common pairings and whether each director's films tend to be ranked close to each other. The main one I've found is if LTK/TLD is someone's top film, the other Dalton to be close.

    I thought if either OHMSS/FRWL is high up the other must be high but it's not necessarily the case, even though both films are overall top 5 in the final tally.

    Just goes to how how varied opinions are even on similar toned films.

    And I just love hearing the casual fan's reasons for their rankings, for example putting OHMSS at the bottom because Bond gets married, or FRWL at the bottom because he doesn't go to Russia and treats women badly. Or FRWL at the bottom because it's slow and boring but then places DN at number 7. And I love (well not really) the high placings of TWINE because of Richard's (. )( .)
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    w2bond wrote: »
    I would love for there to be a easy way to find out trends in rankings, such as common pairings and whether each director's films tend to be ranked close to each other. The main one I've found is if LTK/TLD is someone's top film, the other Dalton to be close.

    I thought if either OHMSS/FRWL is high up the other must be high but it's not necessarily the case, even though both films are overall top 5 in the final tally

    I have some pairs very close together: maybe you see other pairs...

    Goldeneye (Martin Campbell)
    The Living Daylights (Dalton is my favourite)
    OHMSS (your example with FRWL)
    Casino Royale (Martin Campbell)
    From Russia With Love (your example with OHMSS)

    Octopussy
    Licence To Kill (Dalton is my favourite)
    Goldfinger
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    The Spy Who Loved Me (TSWLM + MR belong together)
    Moonraker
    Skyfall
    For Your Eyes Only
    Dr. No

    The World Is Not Enough
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    A View To A Kill
    Quantum Of Solace

    Live And Let Die
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Diamonds Are Forever
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    @BondJasonBond006

    As I said before, we are Bond rankings twins. Here's my list for my new Bondathon after 17 films. I love the Campbell films but GE suffers from an awful soundtrack that's mostly why it's lower. And I can't separate TSWLM/MR, both are good/bad for different reasons.

    1. The Living Daylights
    2. Octopussy
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. OHMSS
    5. GE

    6. For Your Eyes Only
    7. Tomorrow Never Dies
    8. Dr No
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. Moonraker
    11. Diamonds are Forever
    12. Licence to Kill

    13. GF
    14. You Only Live Twice

    15. A View to a Kill
    16. Man with the Golden Gun
    17. Thunderball

    18. Live and Let Die
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I've enjoyed the writing in the Craig era, for the most part. The dialogue particularly. SKYFALL has some serious plot holes, no doubt, and most of Scotland is s waste of time, but still it contains some crisp dialogue.

    The dialogue in the Craig era is definitely better. Thanks to Haggis, Logan, Butterworth. P+W's plodding stories are still a hindrance though IMO. Their plots are drawn out TV episodes.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    My final ranking after this year's Bondathon:

    The Top 6 is not likely to ever going to change
    1 Goldeneye
    2 The Living Daylights
    3 OHMSS
    4 Casino Royale
    5 Octopussy
    6 From Russia With Love

    Skyfall was my No 13, now it's 7 as I realised I can finally forgive the flawed writing, and the few cringe-worthy moments (Mommy was very bad/imbecile Q/flashlight incident)

    7 Skyfall
    8 Licence To Kill
    9 Tomorrow Never Dies
    10 Die Another Day
    11 Moonraker
    12 The Spy Who Loved Me

    Goldfinger finally slipped considerably, I have rated it much too high out of respect to its legacy. Now it's where it belongs.

    13 Goldfinger
    14 Dr. No
    15 For Your Eyes Only
    16 The World Is Not Enough
    17 You Only Live Twice
    18 Thunderball

    Five movies that I can watch of course, all of them have great sequences that I enjoy, but at the end of the day they just don't make the cut to be called very good or even great by me.
    19 A View To A Kill (simply Roger's age)
    20 Quantum Of Solace (all action is unwatchable due to shaky camera and editing)
    21 Live And Let Die (early 70's fashion, bad hairdo and "cheap" look)
    22 The Man With The Golden Gun (made for TV feel, "cheap" look)
    23 Diamonds Are Forever (a parody and the only one I can say I never look forward watching)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Interesting. Can you explain why GE is so high?
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited September 2015 Posts: 11,189
    For me, while it may not be the absolute best quality-wise, it's...by far...the Bond film I've seen most in my time as a fan.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited September 2015 Posts: 9,020
    @suavejmf

    Goldeneye (imo) is the epitome of a Bond movie. It is one of the few Bond movies that has ALL the ingredients that make a good Bond movie.
    It was the first Bond I saw as an adult, Brosnan is my No 2 actor after Dalton.

    If I'd rank the movies only objectively putting aside any favouritism like favourite actor, favourite era, romantic glorified memories etc. then my No 1 would be FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE of which I believe is the best Bond movie ever quality and story wise, and the best balanced (action, witty dialogue, suspense, humour).

    When I talk of the best Bond movie in threads for instance I always say it is FRWL, when I talk about my favourite Bond movie it is GE.
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