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1. The Man With The Golden Gun
2. Licence To Kill / The Living Daylights
3. Octopussy / A View To A Kill / Quantum of Solace
4. Goldeneye / For Your Eyes Only / Live and Let Die
5. The Spy Who Loved Me / Tomorrow Never Dies/ Casino Royale
6. Dr No / On Her Majesty's Secret Service / From Russia With Love
7. Goldfinger / Skyfall
8. Thunderball
9. Moonraker / The World is Not Enough
10. Diamonds Are Forever
11. You Only Live Twice
12. Die Another Day
I had to put several outings equal, as otherwise some of the films I really enjoy would be too low.
Re-numbered your list to try to get a better understanding of how it compares with other rankings. Where's the cut-off between movies you enjoy and movies you don't as much?
01. The Man With The Golden Gun
02. Licence To Kill / The Living Daylights
04. Octopussy / A View To A Kill / Quantum of Solace
07. Goldeneye / For Your Eyes Only / Live and Let Die
10. The Spy Who Loved Me / Tomorrow Never Dies/ Casino Royale
13. Dr No / On Her Majesty's Secret Service / From Russia With Love
16. Goldfinger / Skyfall
18. Thunderball
19. Moonraker / The World is Not Enough
21. Diamonds Are Forever
22. You Only Live Twice
23. Die Another Day
:-bd
And not only them!
OP is my No 5 after GE TLD OHMSS and CR!
I was tempted even to put CR after OP after my latest Bondathon, but I don't easily change my rankings, I have to be strongly convinced.
Very true. I'd rather write about my favourite parts in Bond movies, but get caught up in criticising too much or defending when once again Brosnan gets bashed.
For you it's DAD for me it's DAF which I never look forward to re-watch.
Cringeworthy moments for me only exist in QOS (every action scene as they are simply unwatchable)....oh and the flashlight disaster in SF.
I'm not sure there is a OP thread. I'll look for one though.
The creme de le creme:
1. TB
2. SF
3. CR
4. GF
The Second Tier Favorites:
5. DAF
6. FRWL
7. QoS
8. YOLT
Diggin' It:
9. LTK
10. LALD
11. TSWLM
12. OHMSS
13. TMWTGG
14. DN
Worth Watching:
15. AVTAK
16. OP
17. GE
18. TLD
Ugh:
19. TND
20. TWINE
21. FYEO
22. DAD
23. MR
[-(
The same can be said for the Craig movies.
Terrible scripts. TND-SF. Says something about those writers. I wonder why they still have a job, but I guess artistic achievement isn't that important if they box office is satisfying.
I agree on the dialogue, that is slightly better in CR to SF.
But there is also great dialogue in GE to TWINE, especially everything with M, Q and Moneypenny, Zukovsky and Wade.
The dialogue between Bond and Onatopp is priceless as well.
Still, my favourite dialogue certainly is everything with Vesper, Mathis and Leiter or LeChiffre.
But anything with Elvis is cringe-worthy (he even speaks Swiss-German on the phone with his mother for Christ's sake).
… with a twist.
What?
CR's script was perfectly fine up to venice, then it falls apart.
QOS had no script at all it seems or it just goes under in the shaky-blurry-fast edited action.
SF has the worst script ever of the whole series, so many plot holes, a Swiss cheese would get envious. Some of the stupidest moments ever in any script.
The flashlight incident?
The miraculously perfect timing of the subway crash?
just to name some examples.
QoS is best considered a lengthy epilogue to the events of CR. It works best if viewed in that fashion and even it's breakneck pace is more acceptable then. I was in a mood for a Bond film yesterday but had limited time ...... the only one that would fit my time slot was QoS ..... I went to my collection to reach for it and then realized I lent it to my dad. Have to get the whole collection back soon in time for my upcoming Bondathon.
SF is really all about quality characterizations & insight into motivations, themes and visuals. It nails it there. Plot is somewhat simplistic admittedly, & secondary
Agreed. But I like the Miami sequence actually.
I find it irritating when Brosnan's movies get bashed for things that aren't really different in the current era. That was my point I was trying to make in my post, regarding "terrible" scripts.
Here is again my ranking as it was before my current Bondathon:
Goldeneye
The Living Daylights
OHMSS
Casino Royale
Octopussy
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Licence To Kill
Tomorrow Never Dies
Die Another Day
The Spy Who Loved Me
Moonraker
Skyfall
Dr. No
For Your Eyes Only
The World Is Not Enough
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
A View To A Kill
Quantum Of Solace
Live And Let Die
The Man With The Golden Gun
Diamonds Are Forever
There will actually be some changes which I will post soon. Just have to watch Skyfall first, the last movie in my Bondathon.
[-(
I thought if either OHMSS/FRWL is high up the other must be high but it's not necessarily the case, even though both films are overall top 5 in the final tally.
Just goes to how how varied opinions are even on similar toned films.
And I just love hearing the casual fan's reasons for their rankings, for example putting OHMSS at the bottom because Bond gets married, or FRWL at the bottom because he doesn't go to Russia and treats women badly. Or FRWL at the bottom because it's slow and boring but then places DN at number 7. And I love (well not really) the high placings of TWINE because of Richard's (. )( .)
I have some pairs very close together: maybe you see other pairs...
Goldeneye (Martin Campbell)
The Living Daylights (Dalton is my favourite)
OHMSS (your example with FRWL)
Casino Royale (Martin Campbell)
From Russia With Love (your example with OHMSS)
Octopussy
Licence To Kill (Dalton is my favourite)
Goldfinger
Tomorrow Never Dies
Die Another Day
The Spy Who Loved Me (TSWLM + MR belong together)
Moonraker
Skyfall
For Your Eyes Only
Dr. No
The World Is Not Enough
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
A View To A Kill
Quantum Of Solace
Live And Let Die
The Man With The Golden Gun
Diamonds Are Forever
As I said before, we are Bond rankings twins. Here's my list for my new Bondathon after 17 films. I love the Campbell films but GE suffers from an awful soundtrack that's mostly why it's lower. And I can't separate TSWLM/MR, both are good/bad for different reasons.
1. The Living Daylights
2. Octopussy
3. From Russia with Love
4. OHMSS
5. GE
6. For Your Eyes Only
7. Tomorrow Never Dies
8. Dr No
9. The Spy Who Loved Me
10. Moonraker
11. Diamonds are Forever
12. Licence to Kill
13. GF
14. You Only Live Twice
15. A View to a Kill
16. Man with the Golden Gun
17. Thunderball
18. Live and Let Die
The dialogue in the Craig era is definitely better. Thanks to Haggis, Logan, Butterworth. P+W's plodding stories are still a hindrance though IMO. Their plots are drawn out TV episodes.
The Top 6 is not likely to ever going to change
1 Goldeneye
2 The Living Daylights
3 OHMSS
4 Casino Royale
5 Octopussy
6 From Russia With Love
Skyfall was my No 13, now it's 7 as I realised I can finally forgive the flawed writing, and the few cringe-worthy moments (Mommy was very bad/imbecile Q/flashlight incident)
7 Skyfall
8 Licence To Kill
9 Tomorrow Never Dies
10 Die Another Day
11 Moonraker
12 The Spy Who Loved Me
Goldfinger finally slipped considerably, I have rated it much too high out of respect to its legacy. Now it's where it belongs.
13 Goldfinger
14 Dr. No
15 For Your Eyes Only
16 The World Is Not Enough
17 You Only Live Twice
18 Thunderball
Five movies that I can watch of course, all of them have great sequences that I enjoy, but at the end of the day they just don't make the cut to be called very good or even great by me.
19 A View To A Kill (simply Roger's age)
20 Quantum Of Solace (all action is unwatchable due to shaky camera and editing)
21 Live And Let Die (early 70's fashion, bad hairdo and "cheap" look)
22 The Man With The Golden Gun (made for TV feel, "cheap" look)
23 Diamonds Are Forever (a parody and the only one I can say I never look forward watching)
Goldeneye (imo) is the epitome of a Bond movie. It is one of the few Bond movies that has ALL the ingredients that make a good Bond movie.
It was the first Bond I saw as an adult, Brosnan is my No 2 actor after Dalton.
If I'd rank the movies only objectively putting aside any favouritism like favourite actor, favourite era, romantic glorified memories etc. then my No 1 would be FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE of which I believe is the best Bond movie ever quality and story wise, and the best balanced (action, witty dialogue, suspense, humour).
When I talk of the best Bond movie in threads for instance I always say it is FRWL, when I talk about my favourite Bond movie it is GE.